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07-26-2011 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
ok obv this question is gonna look suspicious but what is wolf chat? is it a special 2+2 chat room for wolves and mods?
...umm
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07-26-2011 , 02:28 AM
i detect sarcasm!
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07-26-2011 , 02:29 AM
ummmm
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07-26-2011 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
You're not really following along.

You have, numerous times, posted things that implicitly say "I'm a wolf" or "I'm going to flip wolf." This is known as a tell. It is hard for anyone to want to soft-clear you or clear you when you do this.

Additionally, that seer claim was ridiculous - so ridiculous that it's probably the only available reason to clear you. Don't get all indignant.
thats exactly what im getting at

if I was a wolf causing so much chaos and confusion I would stop posting and lurk until it was my turn to go on the wolf list.

followed by a strong pat on the back for myself

I just dont understand why so many experienced players cant see or even contemplate the possibility of me being a spazzy villa.

Like, I cant possibly play this badly as a wolf can I.

When I go down, it's over. That's why, as my responsibility as a villager, I can't let that happen. Can I really be this stubborn as a cornered wolf in this situation?

All my attempts to defend myself at this point, are only solidifying me on the top of the lynch list, but I keep trying and trying and trying to dig out only to get dragged deeper and deeper and deeper in the sinkhole with each subsequent attempt I make to get out and give the village a legitimate chance in this game.

When I go down, it's basically over for the village. That's why, as my responsibility as a villager, I can't let that happen.
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07-26-2011 , 02:31 AM
thank you for being so responsible
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07-26-2011 , 02:32 AM
Why is it all over if you, in particular, get lynched? That's what I don't get.

Also I think you know I know what you're saying about the seer claim. What you don't seem to have realized is that many of us have seen **** like this from wolves a large number of times. It is not clearing. It is never clearing. You're lucky some of the other more merciless vets are not here, because they'd policy lynch you.
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07-26-2011 , 02:33 AM
withered
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07-26-2011 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I mean like, yeah, basically everyone has me on their villager list, and vyk thinks I'm gonna just pop in and spew the first chance I get in real life, when it's already like 2:00 AM for most of the people in the game, because what I really need to do right now is work really hard to get clear, because if I was a wolf I'm totally getting crushed in this game and it's emergency time.

Nice read.
Do you usually defend so hard when such an obvious wolf goat puts a throwaway vote on you under poor circumstances?

Thats what im trying to figure out and Im hoping that somebody out there, as an experienced player remaining who has that history with you, can read your response to my "baseless" accusation.

It can only help the village and give it more info.

Wagoning hifi, while the rest of the village sits around and agrees with itself, doesn't do much when you realize there are 4 wolves left in the game.

However, wagoning hifi, while cross examining other players and applying pressure where necessary for information is massively +EV for the rest of the village in my eyes.

I see us on the very verge of a losing effort and sitting here doing nothing while everyone else jerks each other off is counterproductive and selfish on my part.

You calling my posts sucky and my reads crap is insulting to me as a villager doing his damn hardest to help the village have a fighting chance in this game.
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07-26-2011 , 02:40 AM
vyk
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07-26-2011 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
Do you usually defend so hard when such an obvious wolf goat puts a throwaway vote on you under poor circumstances?

Thats what im trying to figure out and Im hoping that somebody out there, as an experienced player remaining who has that history with you, can read your response to my "baseless" accusation.

It can only help the village and give it more info.

Wagoning hifi, while the rest of the village sits around and agrees with itself, doesn't do much when you realize there are 4 wolves left in the game.

However, wagoning hifi, while cross examining other players and applying pressure where necessary for information is massively +EV for the rest of the village in my eyes.

I see us on the very verge of a losing effort and sitting here doing nothing while everyone else jerks each other off is counterproductive and selfish on my part.

You calling my posts sucky and my reads crap is insulting to me as a villager doing his damn hardest to help the village have a fighting chance in this game.
I'm calling the following things sucky:

1. faking seer on day 2 with a wolf peek

2. repeatedly saying things like "if and when I flip wolf" and "you're trying to get credit by voting me"

I'm calling the following read crap:

1. me as a wolf
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07-26-2011 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Why is it all over if you, in particular, get lynched? That's what I don't get.

Also I think you know I know what you're saying about the seer claim. What you don't seem to have realized is that many of us have seen **** like this from wolves a large number of times. It is not clearing. It is never clearing. You're lucky some of the other more merciless vets are not here, because they'd policy lynch you.
Hypothetically speaking, me and Hifi get lynched having the village go at best 1/2 during the next 2 days and the wolves NK the 2 most likely Dean's village peaks. Then the village is left with no constructive reads for the hidden wolves in the group (I am talking JD, uaw, fnord territory) and have to go perfect, perfect, perfect at best to win the game

Because I know am playing a terrible villager game and I am actively trying to convince you and everyone else that I am in fact playing a terrible villager game.

Also, I wished you used more emoticons in your posts so I knew if you were actually mad at me or frustrated with me here. I am already in an ongoing argument with Zayana this game and have lost Anarchist somewhere down the line, I cant afford to have a 3rd villa do the same. Through my interaction with you, I was hoping to spark something where either you as a villa realize that I am playing a terribad villa game or you as a wolf expose yourself due to your reaction to one of the more experienced players left who might be a villa such as Sun or Herbie.

There is literally nobody on my side this game or anyone that I can turn to for help or guidance. I am being attacked on all sides and shoved down wherever I turn.
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07-26-2011 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I'm calling the following things sucky:

1. faking seer on day 2 with a wolf peek

2. repeatedly saying things like "if and when I flip wolf" and "you're trying to get credit by voting me"

I'm calling the following read crap:

1. me as a wolf
Great I agree. But connect the dots and realize that I am a sucky/crappy villa here not a sucky/crappy wolf. I would never be defending myself so hard for posting terribad if I was a wolf, because that would be a viable chaos/confusion strategy.

Somebody f*cking realize this
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07-26-2011 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
thank you for being so responsible
talk to me anarchist

lets bounce some thoughts back and forth
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07-26-2011 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
Hypothetically speaking, me and Hifi get lynched having the village go at best 1/2 during the next 2 days and the wolves NK the 2 most likely Dean's village peaks. Then the village is left with no constructive reads for the hidden wolves in the group (I am talking JD, uaw, fnord territory) and have to go perfect, perfect, perfect at best to win the game

Because I know am playing a terrible villager game and I am actively trying to convince you and everyone else that I am in fact playing a terrible villager game.

Also, I wished you used more emoticons in your posts so I knew if you were actually mad at me or frustrated with me here. I am already in an ongoing argument with Zayana this game and have lost Anarchist somewhere down the line, I cant afford to have a 3rd villa do the same. Through my interaction with you, I was hoping to spark something where either you as a villa realize that I am playing a terribad villa game or you as a wolf expose yourself due to your reaction to one of the more experienced players left who might be a villa such as Sun or Herbie.

There is literally nobody on my side this game or anyone that I can turn to for help or guidance. I am being attacked on all sides and shoved down wherever I turn.
I'm not mad at you or frustrated with you and I like you just fine, I just think you have some way wolfy posts that make it hard to be flexible about the potentially clearing things you've done, especially because I wish you didn't do them (the seer thing).

Notice that I haven't voted you and also haven't finished my re-read.
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07-26-2011 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
talk to me anarchist

lets bounce some thoughts back and forth
ok, how are you going to use your 2k post?
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07-26-2011 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I'm not mad at you or frustrated with you and I like you just fine, I just think you have some way wolfy posts that make it hard to be flexible about the potentially clearing things you've done, especially because I wish you didn't do them (the seer thing).

Notice that I haven't voted you and also haven't finished my re-read.
unvote
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07-26-2011 , 03:00 AM
what does HUSNG mean in the context of WW?
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07-26-2011 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
Great I agree. But connect the dots and realize that I am a sucky/crappy villa here not a sucky/crappy wolf. I would never be defending myself so hard for posting terribad if I was a wolf, because that would be a viable chaos/confusion strategy.

Somebody f*cking realize this
I don't know what else to tell you. Wolves ACTUALLY DO THE BLUE PART ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO WIN. If you pulled that seer stunt as a wolf, you would HAVE TO do what you're doing unless you wanted to just give up on the game like a wuss. It's not clearing.

And it IS a viable chaos/confusion strategy to withdraw fake claims, which is WHY so many of us hate hate hate it when people do that.

You did not polarize your range to villager just because you did something monumentally wolfy. I GET the argument, but it doesn't work that way reliably enough for me to clear you for it.
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07-26-2011 , 03:01 AM
oh wow, u used ur 2k post to unvote, HOF.
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07-26-2011 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
ok, how are you going to use your 2k post?
I threw some crap in CPHoya's direction. He correctly identified it as crap and it bounced back. Consequences will be had. Too much pressure for a 2k post there other that unvote.
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07-26-2011 , 03:03 AM
i mean this game is sick but id really like to see some of the lower posters come back
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07-26-2011 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I don't know what else to tell you. Wolves ACTUALLY DO THE BLUE PART ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO WIN. If you pulled that seer stunt as a wolf, you would HAVE TO do what you're doing unless you wanted to just give up on the game like a wuss. It's not clearing.

And it IS a viable chaos/confusion strategy to withdraw fake claims, which is WHY so many of us hate hate hate it when people do that.

You did not polarize your range to villager just because you did something monumentally wolfy. I GET the argument, but it doesn't work that way reliably enough for me to clear you for it.
Ok I understand. I am still learning the intricacies behind this game. Your explanation is very informative for me and now I know what to look out for and avoid in the future. Appreciated.

Im as big of a noob as Anarchist over there, but with slightly more experience flinging crap at a wall to see if it sticks.

Im just grasping at straws.
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07-26-2011 , 03:09 AM
what does HUSNG mean in the context of WW?
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07-26-2011 , 03:39 AM
LOL i just looked up werewolf on wikipedia and realized that "Mason" is a standard role. When I was reading through other POG WW threads, I 100% thought it had to do with MM and was 2+2 specific.
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07-26-2011 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
my game is evolving and being developed as I get more and more experience under my belt
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