X-Men: First Class Slow Vanilla Game Thread - Page 67

if we lynch dean, it clears vyk, myself, hifi, fnord and possibly uaw, and makes bojtun almost a lock wolf. if he turns up villa - he won't - you can lynch me and get rid of the worst villager ever; or gain information thru the people who voted for him with me. It's a really good lynch.

It also fits in with my hifi = villager read - I don't think her non-caring tone is wolfy at all. She would "care" if she was a wolf. I think she would have strong reads if she was a wolf as well. Her only read so far is Dean, which I think is correct.

the first part to me looks incredibly villa, basically lumping a lot of the folks that would be cowolves into one post. not really something a good wolf would do imo. unless there's someone (or two?) that has the wool pulled so hard that you think they would get to f5/f3 and have a good shot at tid.

the second part however makes little to no sense without references to her playing this way before.

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07-24-2011 , 03:46 PM

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I haven't play with hifi enough tbh to back that up with data.

if we lynch vyk and he turns up villa, who are we confidently calling wolf? who are we confidently calling villa except myself?

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07-24-2011 , 03:47 PM

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I feel awesome tbh. If Dean is a villa, he can have my avatar for a month. I don't ask anything in return if im right.

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07-24-2011 , 03:49 PM

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Supine, I linked a hifi wolf and a hifi villager game in the thread last night. Please look at both of them, then come back and tell me which you think she is playing like.

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07-24-2011 , 03:49 PM

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i don't want to lynch vyk though... so that doesn't necessarily phase me. i want to lynch hifi. let's not forget that we're going to hopefully have a few hard seer claims unless seer is nked tonight. so all is not lost.

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07-24-2011 , 03:51 PM

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and attempting to incite panic amongst villagers that are attempting to play rationally looks wolfy to me. just join the party and help ferret them out. a villager is more likely to agree with rational logic than inflammatory "if/then" statements imo.

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07-24-2011 , 03:52 PM

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and if hifi is a wolf things certainly look a lot better for vyk and a lot worse for supine.

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07-24-2011 , 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

No way in a 17er does a decent seer claim this early unless they are wagonned and potentially the lynch.

I want to lynch HiFi as well, but I believe she is close to maj. I haven't updated my counts.

Vyk could just be playing bad because he was massively multi-tabling ww and drunk and in AC... which is why I've been trying to get him to give me something to work with. Basically I need to see that he is having his own thoughts and not sponging the thread. It's easy to throw out a list as a wolf... it's hard to say I think so and so is a wolf because of x, y and z... especially if that someone is a villager.

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07-24-2011 , 03:57 PM

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and if hifi is a wolf things certainly look a lot better for vyk and a lot worse for supine.

explain your thoughts here please

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07-24-2011 , 03:57 PM

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i know the seer isn't going to come out today, i'm just saying that i'd rather stay calm about everything. we lynched villa the first two nights and still won in my last game and seer was killed on n2.

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07-24-2011 , 03:59 PM

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Oh and I firmly believe there is no way that nut as a wolf can come into the thread last night and interact with me as much as he did, having the same thoughts and coming to similar conclusions in the conversation as a wolf. If he's a wolf he can win this one, because his tone, thoughts and the time he is putting in deserves it. But I'm pretty darn sure he's not one, so yay!

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07-24-2011 , 04:00 PM

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man the on hifi is disgusting. it's basically a wagon from dean whos a wolf, and based almost squarely on her no-content posting.

Again, this changes if dean turns up villa. if he does, finding combinations of likely wolf teams will be quite easy. I think there is no lynch that gives us more info regardless of the outcome, and I 100 % believe the outcome is that he is a wolf.

I read some of the games zay, hifis a villager.

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07-24-2011 , 04:03 PM

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It's day 2, we don't need to get worried yet by any stretch of the imagination.

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07-24-2011 , 04:06 PM

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This game is absolutely nothing like her villager game... nothing... and very similar to her wolf game. I feel like I must be playing an entirely different game from you right now, which is confusing.

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07-24-2011 , 04:08 PM

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Let's see where this goes

dean

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07-24-2011 , 04:09 PM

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put yourself in my shoes. hifi put pressure on me. Not inflammatory at all imo but after a few others had cleared me i have to decide who to trust. since i know i'm villa and that's the only thing i can be 100% about who am i going to trust? the people who say, oh yah he's villa, or the people who give me random heat. fnord did the same thing and he's obv going to be on my radar too. any villa that is attempting to get lynched is obv going to put heat on the people that are attempting to flame the fire. it only makes sense.

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07-24-2011 , 04:11 PM

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and if hifi is a wolf things certainly look a lot better for vyk and a lot worse for supine.

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Originally Posted by Zayana

explain your thoughts here please

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Let's see where this goes

dean

nevermind. i had a faulty piece of logic stuck in my head that's just been categorically proven wrong. Still think that supine is as good a next lynch as vyk if hifi turns woof tho.

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07-24-2011 , 04:12 PM

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Vote count as of 1667

[0] Anarchist
[0] bojtun voted for HiFi
[0] CPHoya
[0] fnord_too voted for HiFi
[0] HerbieGRD
[5] HiFi voted for TheDean1
[0] J.D. voted for HiFi
[0] loosekanen
[0] Sun Tzu voted for HiFi
[0] Supine voted for TheDean1
[4] TheDean1 voted for unvote
[0] UAW710 voted for TheDean1
[0] vyk07 voted for TheDean1
[0] XXsooted voted for HiFi
[0] Zayana

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07-24-2011 , 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

put yourself in my shoes. hifi put pressure on me. Not inflammatory at all imo but after a few others had cleared me i have to decide who to trust. since i know i'm villa and that's the only thing i can be 100% about who am i going to trust? the people who say, oh yah he's villa, or the people who give me random heat. fnord did the same thing and he's obv going to be on my radar too. any villa that is attempting to get lynched is obv going to put heat on the people that are attempting to flame the fire. it only makes sense.

i can't speak english. what that should say is "any villa that is feeling an attempt to be lycnhed is obv..."

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07-24-2011 , 04:13 PM

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This is great because I can totally put myself in your shoes, she goes after me every game so far including this one, heh. Don't put to much into it, she's misinformed villager simply.

You should trust me this game atm. I'm the clearest villager I think due to meta. Dean cleared me hard for example. If I'm wrong about dean, you don't need to trust me ever again, but please go with me this time. Fwiw I think you are a villager. I don't want to make lists just yet and it all hangs on my divine insight read on dean.

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07-24-2011 , 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Supine

Took its time.

I think Hifi is actually a good vote so it will stay for now. I think anarchist is wolfy yoo - this looks more like a noob wolf than a noob villager, but I'm loath to lynch him d1.

why were you so pro hifi lynch here but now you're doing everything against it. even if you feel that strongly about dean you could always get him next cycle. you can see how it would make sense that you are trying to protect hifi now for one reason or another.

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07-24-2011 , 04:17 PM

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and trust me, if hifi flips villa i'll be on the dean train next round simply because i obv have no idea what's going on and it's likely a very good player has owned me.

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07-24-2011 , 04:17 PM

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HiFi

out for a while not sure if I'll be back before EOD

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07-24-2011 , 04:19 PM

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to expand the thought a bit... if you really wanted dean gone that badly you could have just as easily said things like, "i'm still lost on hifi but dean is a better vote bc..." but you haven't. you've attempted to try and outright clear hifi based on evidence that i can't see even if others can.