I couldn't answer that right now, I'm rereading and I'm on day 2. I really do still like vyk, but I need to read him assuming he's a villager and see if I feel like it's possible. I also need to reevaluate everyone I gave really light villa leans to, because I didn't have enough people for a 4 person wolf team at the end of the day. I really have to look at the way EOD went down, who jumped on where, etc.

Gun to head right this second I'd vote vyk again, here's the thing, I rarely push someone day 1. I suggested and pushed Vyk for a few reasons, 1 he wasn't being his normal active self (explainable if he's busy with work) 2 if aks was a wolf I could see him picking a wolf for a vote rather than making up a case on a villa 3 if aks was a villager, vyk actually wasn't his normal self and looked like an ok pick to me if you have to push an UTR player 4 I thought vyk's reentry to the thread was bad, very defensive based on nothing, and 5 he made some terribly wolfy posts while he was at it. I really felt/feel like he's a wolf.

I was surprised when I saw the reveal last night, because at first I didn't realize it went to a flip and I thought Vyk was being revealed villa. I was much less surprised when I saw it was Aksdal, because I thought he was wolfy, but could be a villager. Particularly middle of the day when he made his v/v/v comment when I was asking them for their villa/wolf reads. I was wanting to see who would appear to be sponging the thread and who wouldn't. Aksdal gave Herbie as a wolf read, no way was that sponging the thread. I started doubting whether he was a wolf then. Not enough to flip my read though, it would be dependent on Herbie's role.

Dean I need to look at and decide one way or the other on, I think I can. He's getting heat and I need to decide if I think he's villa or not. If I decide he's villa, I'll be defending him. I'd love to see someone's case on him from one of the current voters.

Anarchist has had some "new villa" posts, his reaction to nut pushing him wasn't as good as I would have hoped for, but it didn't feel "new wolf". His entrance to the thread felt "new villa" and didn't feel "new wolf" at all.

Loose feels spastic like he did his last game. I thought he was wolfy then, but he was villa.

If HiFi or sooted is a wolf I'm sure they are frustrated because rand is mean to them. Particularly HiFi, poor girl seems like she can't escape the wolf rand lately. It doesn't help that I think in general she is a wolfy villager too. I gave them both villa leans lightly for seeming relief at being randed villa, but I know sooted is a good wolf (and I mean GOOD!). So I'll be looking to see how justified those reads were. Sooted did something else yesterday that I thought was villagery... right near EOD his vyk vyk vyk vyk post, especially now that aks has flipped villa.

Sorry for the brain dump, in before tl;dr

I got so laid last night.

Wynn ftw.

Actually I did have enough for EXACTLY a 4 person wolf team, and 2 things: 1 I know I'm not that good and 2 Aksdal was a villager

I gave a lot of light villa leans though, basically not lynching today type leans.

I just reread hifi, and I really don't see much there one way or another. The post dean quoted is about the worst thing I saw, but I didn't think that was so horrible. I really don't know anything about hifi or her posting style, but I didn't see anything that was really out of the character established in this game. So bottom line, I got nothing; she could be anything.

@zaya - not tl;dr. good post.

Maybe if you actually interacted with me instead of being paranoid about me owning you you'd have an easier time clearing me.

I know you want to lynch vyk, but is there really any possible wolf team that includes vyk and not HiFi?

You should clear me for that btw.

How are you linking vyk and hifi exactly?

Zaya I was leveling on re-entry yesterday, as I was trying to have a good time and post some lolcats

So much win here. Good thing I peeked Dean wolf last night

n0 CPHoya villager
n1 Dean wolf

Dean

No.

But why?

Meh sorry aksdal, The difference from your last villager game and this one made you clearly the best option to me.

CPHoya, remember the turbo you won recently as a wolf where I was quiet most of Day 1, came in and fake-peeked swiitch late, you killed me, and then talked about how it was a weird kill? And then after the game, I told you how I looooved to do that as a wolf as well? Does this from HiFi remind you of anything??

Hi villager.

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I don't get the dean votes AT ALL, and I don't get the votes for him yesterday either.

A point in Dean's favor, aside from being villagery, is that he said he thought aksdal was wolfy yesterday but ended up voting vyk - the guy who aksdal called a wolf once aksdal kicked into gear. This by itself would by wolfy if aksdal was a wolf, but he wasn't. Also, when dean voted vyk the vote count was:

6 - aksdal
5 - vyk
4 - dean

putting aksdal and vyk in a 6-6 tie with dean still in danger of being lynched if someone flips a vote or snipes.

So, if dean were a wolf, why wouldn't he put his vote on villager aksdal, who was a viable lynch that wouldn't bring him heat, and give himself a bigger cushion from being lynched as well?

Because he's a villager. That's why.

Are you hard-claiming? Yes or no?

Because I don't think Herbie helps contribute to a CFD of vyk as w/w, I know Zayana wouldn't bus there, and I'm pretty sure that XX or JD wouldn't bus there either. I know I'm villa but I wouldn't bus there either in case outside viewers need convincing.

That would mean that all 4 wolves were Dean/Aksdal voters (including vyk).

So looking at the Aksdal voters other than vyk we have:

bojtun- super villagery
hoya- villagery and shc
loose- really villagery
mikey- dead villa
hifi- wolfy

So if vyk's a wolf for HiFi to be villa that would mean one of the following is true:

1) an unlikely busser was bussing vyk
2) all 3 of his buddies were voting me
or 3) I am erroneously clearing one of hoya/boj/loose

It's possible that one of these are the case but it seems kinda unlikely to me.

So if vyk's a wolf I have trouble envisioning a scenario where HiFi is villa.

OK so vyk is claiming wolf.

What seer volunteers to get lynched last night?

Heh, game got good.

Now that an extremely wolfy person that is very unlikely to be the seer claimed with a dean = wolf peek, you ****ers better unvote me and let the wolves resolve this ****.

Stupid question: CFD = ?

Heh, wonder if I solved the game and the wolves want to get me mislynched.

Anyway I'm 3 votes away from maj and should be unvoted till this **** gets sorted out.

Real seer shouldn't cc here.

chinese fire drill. quick rush of votes near EOD on a new wagon.

hifi

Supine, unvote me.

If vyk's really teh seer, then he'll be dead and I'll be outed tomorrow.

lets avoid FPS and lynch Dean, then vyk if dean turns up villa.

No majority day 1 or 2, iirc.

No idea what you guys are talking about here. That is virtually the whole crux of ww. Comparing someone's villager game vs. their wolf game and how they've sounded in other games as either role.

See Nut vs. Gatito recently.

Aksdal flipped villager, but that way of reading and playing is 100 percent the correct way to go. Weird.

It's FPS to lynch me.

If I am a wolf then I'm not going anywhere and I WILL BE OUTED TOMORROW.

Obviously we can't lynch dean here today.

ok, I'm fine with bojtun or herbie as well.