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07-28-2011 , 02:08 AM
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07-28-2011 , 05:53 AM
Vote count as of 2526

[0] Anarchist
[0] CPHoya
[0] fnord_too
[0] HerbieGRD
[0] J.D.
[0] Supine
[0] UAW710 voted for xxsooted
[0] vyk07
[1] XXsooted
[0] Zayana

Just revote if I missed your vote.
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07-28-2011 , 08:47 AM
Ok so I was going to say lynch XX today and Vyk tomorrow, but I think I now want to reverse that order

Vyk
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07-28-2011 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
How am I not f***ing contributing? And how exactly am I making every post about myself. Your read this game is so far off its ridiciulous. If I was an experienced wolf and all you needed me to do was to spew off a certain villagery template that you have in your head in order to clear myself, I would be able to bullsh*t you to your hearts content.
Lol at the irony in this post:
How am I making every post about myself?
Me I me I me myself I....

Text lolcat IMO.
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07-28-2011 , 09:51 AM
Where did my multi quote go? I don't see it in this post, but I selected uaws late day two posts. Nothing that big though because I thought he voted latish, but he voted early and just didn't change his vote (which is consistent with his story up to that point, but Im not giving any villa points to him for day 2, that's for sure.)
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07-28-2011 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Lol at the irony in this post:
How am I making every post about myself?
Me I me I me myself I....

Text lolcat IMO.
Yeah basically Vyk appears to have gone into full anti-spew mode

Sooted is at least trying to look like he's posting reads, so I'm inclined to let him stay because it's more likely he'll give something else away if he's a wolf
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07-28-2011 , 10:10 AM
Ok I can't quite finish my reread, on my phone and losing focus. I am as convinced as I can be without a peek that vyk and xx are both wolves. I don't care what order we lynch them in. It looks like uaw may have been a dean peek, but I have not gone over the dean peek analysis yet.

I owe zaya thoughts on her multiquotes from yesterday, I'll do that after lunch.
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07-28-2011 , 10:38 AM
I'd like to hash out order with Hoya. I'm heading to work though, back in about 30.
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07-28-2011 , 12:13 PM
Vyk, how did dean coach you to play wolf? What style? Anti-spew?

Sitting around had meant a lot of thinking time....I don't recall dean ever giving a read on vyk, did he??
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07-28-2011 , 01:18 PM
Read three or four of your multi quotes zaya and the only thing I really got was anarchist looking villagery. Anarchist looks so wolfy except when he is looking villagery; I'm not going to worry about him anymore until xx and vyk are gone.
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07-28-2011 , 01:23 PM
Yeah I never even did get through quoting all of her either... I thought there was a bit there that spewed Herbie and Hoya villa's too.
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07-28-2011 , 01:49 PM
Thinking out loud, assuming xx and vyk both flip wolf, I am not sure whether it is better to take the no lynch immediately or lynch and take it if we miss. I was thinking the latter earlier, now I am thinking the former is better.

It makes no sense really to no lynch as long as there is at least one defacto lock villa alive, since the idea is to get the wolves to narrow the field. (by defacto lock villager I mean someone who won't be lynched, even if they don't get eaten at night when they are the most clear villager).

I have in my mind a tentative two players I would lynch after xx and vyk, but I don't feel great about them. Ugh, I am not looking forward to the end game.
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07-28-2011 , 02:01 PM
I wouldn't worry about NL until later, it just doesn't make sense to do it now because the village loses the opinion of near-lock villas. Going back to hifi spew...
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07-28-2011 , 02:18 PM
I was talking about after xx and vyk are lynched. Presumably you and Hoya will be nk'd next two nights.

The next couple of days seem automatic, so I am now thinking about what happens after that.
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07-28-2011 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
I was talking about after xx and vyk are lynched. Presumably you and Hoya will be nk'd next two nights.

The next couple of days seem automatic, so I am now thinking about what happens after that.
that kind of thinking is when villages lose...
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07-28-2011 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
that kind of thinking is when villages lose...
Not necessarily

Sometimes it's what keeps village from lol epic fail

Like at the end of your recent game for instance

Sometimes automatic is good, and overthinking is just overthinking
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07-28-2011 , 02:37 PM
What Herbie said. No one, not even vyk, says vyk can not be lynched. Xx probably would say he shouldn't be lynched, but he is the only one.

There is no way they aren't going.

(wording in the second sentence is weird. Even vyk says he must to be lynched. That is much clearer)
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07-28-2011 , 02:41 PM
The way to tell the difference, I think, is whether there's sufficient thought being put into why automatic lynches should be automatic

If everyone is just like "lol obvious wolves lynch vyk and sooted ldo" then it's a problem, but in this case there's significant reasoning behind why each of them is actually probably a wolf here to the point that it would surprise me more than a little if they weren't both wolves, and either one of them coming up villager doesn't make the other any more likely to actually be a villager, so it's not like if Sooted comes up village that would make me really want to reevaluate Vyk all that much, or vice versa.

If somehow they're both village then village is never winning this game no matter how many times we go over things imo
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07-28-2011 , 02:46 PM
Herbie,

Please also express all my other thoughts. Typing on my phone is a pain.
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07-28-2011 , 02:59 PM
I hate when I can't quote because I'm in the middle of a multi-quote. I would say the next lynch is automatic, but the following should be verified based on whatever happens in the thread results etc... I mean I'm not talking lynch a seer-hunt cleared here, obv :rollseyes:

I'm just a little nervous that EVERYONE is saying those two are next... the wolves are either resigned to that and are leaving it up to the last wolf to bring it home, or maybe we're doing it wrong? That's probably the whole paranoia, leveling thing though...
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07-28-2011 , 03:00 PM
My icon didn't show up, and the rollseyes was because of what just happened in the game I just modded
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07-28-2011 , 03:06 PM
Like Herbie said, neither case for xx and vyk is predicated on the other being a wolf, and both cases are incredibly strong. Assume they are both wolves, what could the wolf team possibly do to save them?
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07-28-2011 , 03:08 PM
Also if they're both wolves the remaining "wolf team" consists of exactly one player, much easier to just try to blend into the crowd and hope to win it that way then trying to rock the boat now and risk outing yourself to save already doomed teammates, especially with the seer dead.
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07-28-2011 , 03:10 PM
Okay, I'm gonna commit here.

s00ted

Then vyk.

After that I think we're drawing from UAW / Herbie / fnord.

Frustrating that I can't provide a lock pattern with this grouping.

Think we go s00ted first because we're lynching vyk no matter what and making TOMORROW automatic gives wolves less room to screw us up than lynching vyk today does.
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07-28-2011 , 03:14 PM
Also just allow me one quick break here:

MOTIONS FOR SUMMARY ADJUDICATION DENIED AS TO ALL DEFENDANTS.

**** YEAH.

WOOOOOOOOOT.

Pumped.

/end work brag
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