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07-27-2011 , 04:04 PM
Sooted: Top 5? Last I saw I was like 16 or something. I assume you are joking with worrying about me tricking everyone here.
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07-27-2011 , 04:05 PM
I am not doing an xx specific analysis. I outlined above why that snipe was a horrible play (yesterday or the day before maybe). Summary: the only time I see it as remotely justifiable is if he had good reason to believe hifi was village. He clearly is not saying this is the case.

On the side, I also hated the I'll explain later that never came as far as I recall.

Also, voting for an outed wolf is hardly bussing. I think he is just trying to play off the Hoya point about supine never claiming villa when he wasn't to date.
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07-27-2011 , 04:06 PM
sick cph is the wolf
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07-27-2011 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Sooted: Top 5? Last I saw I was like 16 or something. I assume you are joking with worrying about me tricking everyone here.
I think you're villager, but I'm much more worried about you being a wolf than anarchist.
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07-27-2011 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by XXsooted
dean sry if you're villa will explain later
It's later now, go for the explanation.
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07-27-2011 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
No one has any thoughts about the convos I'm posting with HiFi info?
On my phone, I'm going to look at that stuff tonight.
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07-27-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
No one has any thoughts about the convos I'm posting with HiFi info?
I think cph recognized hifi had to go and got his bus on early. His reasoning for thinking hifi is a wolf seems okay, but have you ever seen a villager ever make a read like that? lol checklistaments?

I think he knew hifi was a wolf.
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07-27-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by XXsooted
sick cph is the wolf
This'll be good.
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07-27-2011 , 04:09 PM
You think I recognized that to open day 1? Really?
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07-27-2011 , 04:10 PM
well I thought supine had peeked dean wolf. The "explain later" was just cuz I had recently misvigged dean so I would feel bad if I was wrong again, basically I wanted him to know that if he was villa I would explain my reasoning for the switch later. Also "explain later" is kinda seery looking.
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07-27-2011 , 04:10 PM
ya it would be disrespectful of your wolf game to think otherwise
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07-27-2011 , 04:10 PM
Have you forgotten that you pretty much agreed with it on day 1?
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07-27-2011 , 04:11 PM
Xx posts text lolcats, imo
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07-27-2011 , 04:12 PM
More HiFi stuffaments... through page 7, this is taking forever...
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Share the list and I shall answer
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Originally Posted by HiFi
NUTJOB IS NOT MY PEEK
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Originally Posted by HiFi
I'd say anarchist looks like a telcontar gimmick if it weren't for the edit
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Originally Posted by HiFi
loosekanen
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Originally Posted by HiFi
I don't know why Hoya thinks I'm "just doing what everyone expects of me" when I have nfi what anybody ever expects me to do
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Hey you, congrats on the job. ^5.

Now, moving on to obviously more important things, I think your second post about nutjob was strange and I'm voting you, though not without second thoughts. Help me.
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Originally Posted by HiFi
Thanks!

I see why you think it's strange, and it probably would have been better if I'd said that I was never voting nutjob today instead of never ever. He was the most obvious villager itt at the time I made that post, and he still is now. If I have a peek to leave, I haven't left it yet. Does that clear it up at all?
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Originally Posted by HiFi
me either, at least not today. if he really is a new player and not a gimmick, his role should be reasonably obvious pretty soon.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
you just said you were the seer, so you should be able to figure out what i am.
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
just for ****s and giggles?
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Originally Posted by HiFi
i was going to say something mean about poor reading comprehension, but i want to be nice to new people (and really should be nicer to everyone) so i won't.

but you might want to reread my recent posts for conditional statements. maybe.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
nah, because you're a wolf
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
I can barely read my own posts, you expect me to read other peoples'!
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Originally Posted by HiFi
no, for srsbsns
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Originally Posted by HiFi
...

...

nevermind
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
ha i'm just kidding i read your post, still think you are a wolf tho.
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
And this applies to anarchist and not to me why? You should absolutely want me around as I'm brand new and probably painfully obvious to read.
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Originally Posted by HiFi
in that case, you have much to learn



i can't say why because we shouldn't discuss other ongoing games
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
I mean, I understand the ambiguity that comes with wanting to lynch less-experienced players because they're less valuable later in the game. I totally get that. And if there was no other read on a wolf I would buy it. But are you really telling me that you have zero reads on wolves? I'm not getting nk'd for the same reasons inherent in those previously stated ambiguities so you'll have plenty of time to figure me out. And I seriously doubt any sort of wolf endgame where I'm facing experienced players is going to work well for wolves.

srsly u guys. i'm villa. u guys. srsly.
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
either a fair point or a cop out. i guess we'll see.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
loosekanen you have done nothing to convince me you aren't a wolf.

but then and again i think everyone is a wolf so what do i know.
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Originally Posted by HiFi
if you want, i can grab the posts in this game that seem wolfy to me, but i can't do full analysis/comparison if my reference point is a game that's still in progress.
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Originally Posted by Aksdal
To what extent can we not discuss ongoing games? If it's inconsequential to ppl still playing that game, is it ok? or is there more to it?
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Originally Posted by HiFi
If the game is ongoing, it can't be discussed outside the thread until it's over. This includes dead players talking to/about each other wrt the game in progress.
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
not really needed imo. it's still d1. i'm not expecting people to get it right all the time. still, keep an eye out for who's piggybacking you because i'm most assuredly villa.
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Originally Posted by HiFi
never fear, my vote is FAR from set in stone. this is a slow game, we're not lynching till tomorrow night, if you're a villager i'll (hopefully) be able to see it before then. but you made some posts earlier that were REALLY wolfy, like the one about god punishing you for being a wolf irl or something similar.
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
meh that contained truth and lie. truth: i am an irl wolf. lie: i don't believe in god. my dog tags say atheist. i can webcam them for you if you'd like.

i'm not trying to get cleared only here. i've done my best to play some offense. it's just that when you're so new it's difficult to play d1 villa offense without looking like a moron. hopefully i'll do a bit better tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i think hifi and dean are wolves,

zayana, herbie, loosekanen and myself are villagers
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Originally Posted by HiFi
you think dean and i are both wolves even though i was the first person he voted?
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
yeah because a wolf can't point to another wolf lol.
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Originally Posted by Aksdal
tbh I'm having a tough time following the thread

my top villa leans are : you, Dean, Anarchist, and ????

top wolf leansL Herbie and Hifi
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
plus that's a super inconsequental vote
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Originally Posted by HiFi
what have i done that you think either shows discomfort or is contrived?
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Originally Posted by HiFi
I made a valid point, and you casually brushing it aside is incredibly wolfy.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
I'm not brushing it aside, I'm saying two wolves could easily vote for each other on day 1 to throw off suspicion.

Not saying you're a wolf obv just saying you aren't clear.
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Originally Posted by HiFi
Of course I'm not clear, it's d1 and we have zero data points.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
well before you guys answered I was

anarchist
loose

you

that's villa to wolfy, top 2 being villa, you being wolfy. I'm really trying not to judge you guys til later tomorrow though it's hard to be in the thread and not judge though. I'm still processing your answers... I get anarchist maybe thinking dean and hifi are wolfy (though I think Dean might be villa now), I don't understand you thinking herbie is, loose is wrong but I can see why he would think so. You and loose are obviously conveying your own thoughts though, because I don't think anyone else has really called Supine or Herbie wolfy since this morning. I'll have to reread. It's definitely interesting.
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
that would actually make you more likely to be a wolf (if he is)
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Yeah my thoughts with respect to that was he could find them individually wolfy without tying them together in his head. And yes there is such a thing as bussing, though I know Dean isn't a fan. However he might make an exception for HiFi, not sure. But I was waiting for Anarchist to respond with his thoughts.

HiFi knows her argument doesn't hold up I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
hifi
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Originally Posted by Aksdal
going to bed Hifi

I'll be able to change my vote tomorrow at work from my phone if I need to
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07-27-2011 , 04:13 PM
So xx, if sup is the seer why kill his peek before the wolves eat him that night and make it definite? Why save someone you already thought was a wolf? Your snipe doesn't seerish even if dean is a wolf.
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07-27-2011 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by XXsooted
I think cph recognized hifi had to go and got his bus on early. His reasoning for thinking hifi is a wolf seems okay, but have you ever seen a villager ever make a read like that? lol checklistaments?

I think he knew hifi was a wolf.
So you think he bussed HiFi and FPS'd the night 1 seer hunt?
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07-27-2011 , 04:18 PM
I just felt like it was the best move I didn't think it through that much. I didn't think supine could be a wolf so I had his range at villager or seer. And I thoguht it was pretty unlikely he was a villager so seer was a huge portion of his range to me.

And then villager anarchist is screaming at me to switch, and he's itt like 24/7 and following the thread very closely. I had read most of d1 but that's it. So to me I had the seer and a villager screaming at me to switch, and I had read less than 1/2 the thread, I'm not gonna be that stubborn to stick with my read there.
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07-27-2011 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
So you think he bussed HiFi and FPS'd the night 1 seer hunt?
hmm unlikely he would do both that's true. So the n1 seer hunt was definitely him?
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07-27-2011 , 04:21 PM
There's a very reliable read that I often employ in situations like this: if someone good pushes a truly impossible, godawful case against a player who NO ONE is going to lynch, the person pushing that case is nearly a lock villager.

I'm not sure you get the benefit of this read, though.
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07-27-2011 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by XXsooted
hmm unlikely he would do both that's true. So the n1 seer hunt was definitely him?
IMO, yes, all the relevant posts were linked earlier, but searching me for them would feel futile... I'll see if I can find it...
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07-27-2011 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Finding it odd that people aren't watching the Anarchist / bojtun thing more intently.
Hoya, what were your thoughts here?
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07-27-2011 , 04:23 PM
haha I probly would do it as a wolf just to level
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07-27-2011 , 04:24 PM
zaya you don't have to search pretty sure if he's not someone will mention it
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07-27-2011 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Hoya, what were your thoughts here?
I recall that it was clear to me that bojtun was trying to trap anarchist or clear him, depending on response, and that others were just chatting about unrelated things during it, which wouldn't happen during a real seer claim and, therefore, sort of screwed up the mood of the thread during bojtun's little gambit.

It was a good opportunity to see if Anarchist is truly new, which I'm still not actually SOLD on but whatever.
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07-27-2011 , 04:26 PM
For sooted:
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Originally Posted by Zayana
#1 CPHoya or Dean?


This was about AK but he votes and pushes him later.


This is definitive.


About Dean, but qualified with think so no.


CP again, Anarchist stated separate, could be either.

If anyone thinks HiFi wolf this should dismiss it, because I know some of the new players get obsessed with the wolf peeks instead of the villager peeks.


qualified with think, so no



Posts I think might be relevant, someone please double-check to see if I missed anything. There was a lot of AK pushing, but we know he was villager now.

I'm thinking either CPHoya or Anarchist villager, more likely Anarchist, thoughts? It's kind of a weird kill since he didn't leave what I would think was a clear peek as a wolf, but maybe they noticed the Anarchist stand alone post and didn't notice that he left other posts that could also point to Hoya. I don't think a seer would have done that, they'd have been more careful about who they killed. Kinda makes me want to clear some people, but for all I know those people weren't in on the seer hunt for one reason or another, so I'll hold off on that unless seer hunts are just terrible in general.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
zayana, re-read the posts where he says anarchist keeps gettier wolfier and tell me if you think that was his peek.

the peek is always hoya = villa.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Oh, yup, I remembered seeing that and thinking that's not his peek because he said he was villa earlier, but forgot about them when I was rereading the posts... Yup CPHoya = villa... Which is a good thing to know

It's early for me on a Saturday and I'm ever so slightly hung over, so bear with me for the first hour or two, I might be dumb.
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