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Originally Posted by CPHoya
That's basically the series, regarding the defense.
That's hard defense? Because my experience with her in the past has been HiFi = brash...
For Hoya, I'm pretty sure if you read these, you'll be able to get into my head... I was trying to figure out what she was. People said her frustration felt forced and that's the reason she was getting heat. You had your checklist... I mean I get those thoughts, but I just didn't see it. I haven't really played with HiFi in months... and by months, probably 4-5... ever since she and mets started dating and stopped playing together. The only game was the HDM mishmash and I got to play that what a grand total of like 4 hrs... I did not rail that one afterwards, just the last day. After comparing a villa and wolf game she was obv wolf to me though. The last time I remember playing with HiFi as villa she completely flipped out on T1ghter... and was aggressive/brash and felt more like this game.
She wasn't the obvious wolf to me as she was to you, but that is not hard-defense. Hard defense would have been leave her alone, lay off her, whatever... I think Dean's wolf list was pretty close at this point.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Alright, gonna start with a little HiFi analysis since everyone thinks she's wolfy, this is her entry, starting here.
justifiably annoyed and this doesn't feel forced to me
Dean and Supine are the two that had voted her... it's actually kinda villagery to automatically suspect the two voting her.
Some jokes and fluff
Hoya touched on this yesterday
Fluffy stuff
Her vote
fluff, well not really, someone told her not Supine and this is her response if I recall correctly, it's an image so trying remember here
fakepeek talk has been done, Hoya covered this
Can't remember who this is to, she is really defensive but in fairness she came in to two votes without posting. I'd probably be a little defensive too.
Kinda weird if she really thinks he's a wolf
at Supine
Don't recall who this was directed to
or this...
ok, she called Dean and Supine wolves, this is what they had posted at the time:
And Dean:
Self preservation so early on day 1 always makes me go "what?"
Talks about wolfy jokes
What I assume is a joke, but includes HiFi
Really?
Ok, so going through these, not making judgements about Dean or Supine's roles... but of these two, why does she go Supine over Dean? I'd have picked Dean between the two if I was limiting myself that way.
Ok, next batch...
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Originally Posted by J.D.
Ok, starting my re-read but no clue how far I will get. I also am going to assume its all been done before, but whatever.
For Page 1: HiFi not looking good, she combines "anger" and jokes in multiple post in a very short time span. IMO anger is fake.
So I caught this. In a previous game Herbie was a wolf with Dean, and cleared him on Page 1...
This is Herbies 5th post of zero content.
Villa lean: Herbie
Wolf Lean: HiFi
Want to clear nutjob for the million posts, but pretty easy to post that many times with noone to challenge you, no matter the role.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Ok, so the next batch by HiFi...
Ongoing game is over, I'm interested
I don't agree with this in terms of zero data points, but I can see why she's frustrated. I just don't know that I play with her enough to tell if it's fake or not, so I'm just going to stop at this point. I don't really see any wolf hunting on further skim of her remaining posts, there is a lot of joking and defensiveness. I can understand the defensiveness though. I'm still at nfi for her. I'd lean wolfy based on lack of villagery content. I was hoping to come out with she's w or v, but I could go either way. I don't see anything particularly villagery, no post that makes me say, she HAS to be a villa here. I'll do Dean, I think I can figure him out at least.
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Originally Posted by J.D.
Zaya, did you look at the timestamps between HiFi's "justifiably annoyed" posts, and her "joke and fluff" posts?
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Those groups were literally groups of HiFi in the thread... so the first group was all bang bang bang bang... the second groups was all bang bang bang bang... she flips back and forth within them. I can understand the frustration, but I think I see what you are saying... the frustration is interspersed with jokes therefore it's fake? Hold on, I think I have a good reference point for that. When Duck tilted me hardcore? I'll see if I let his pissing me off affect my interactions with everyone else. I remember someone telling me thought I was faking anger, when I was genuinely pissed (and a vilager). I know I'm not HiFi, but it'll help me get in her head maybe.
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Originally Posted by J.D.
FWIW: angry posts: 9:05/9:06/9:06
nutjob non-peek: 9:07
Joke posts: 9:07/9:08
Fluff Herbie/"tilt post": 9:09
Joke post: 9:10
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Originally Posted by Zayana
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=904 Here's the beginning of Duck "peeking" me wolf, I know it's more drastic then a couple of votes, but meh... I did try to not let it influence my interaction with others... a heart for mets a wink for YG, but I can tell I'm definitely more "touchy" than I normally am. I was touchy the rest of the game though, but that's cause I was wagoned every single day for the dumbest reason. And people kept saying I was not being pro-villa when I was doing everything I could for the village and solved the game at the end, to the point where wolves conceded.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
ok, I'm not really joking in those posts, I'm pretty frustrated and it's obvious on tone if you read them.
Oh and I found this funny on skimming, some of you will greatly appreciate this, it is completely not relevant to this game, but it is to the one I wolfed with Sun and Sooted:
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Dean why do you think HiFi picked Supine over you? Curious if there is meta I'm missing
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Originally Posted by Zayana
It's not all of them, just the first two batches, I stopped quoting when I realized it wasn't really helping me decide. She's always wolfy to me, no offense HiFi .
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Originally Posted by bojtun
That's where I'm asking for a little help, and I need to read this thread more and don't want to find a Hi-Fi wolf game and villager game to peruse.
Apparently she's been a wolf a lot lately, so is her tone similar or different? (I'm an ass sometimes. lol)
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Originally Posted by Zayana
don't want to? or want to?
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I can help with both if the answer is want to, though the villa game is not recent.
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Originally Posted by bojtun
don't want to because I need to focus on re-reading this thread. But if you have recent links to villa Hi-Fi and wolf Hi-Fi, I will make a quick speed read of a couple of pages of each just to see if I see any differences.
(haha I just can't ****ing help myself sometimes.)
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Originally Posted by bojtun
Not too concerned about it being really recent I guess.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
You sound like me :P I have nothing for recent villa hifi, I do have one where she tilted and went off on t1ghter and the self banned for a while. But that was a while ago and imo she's been much more composed since then. So I don't know that it will help too much. I'll dig though Wolf game is easy though, cause I was just going through miencraften
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Originally Posted by Zayana
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Originally Posted by Zayana
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Originally Posted by Zayana
That's the most recent non-mishmash recent game I found
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Originally Posted by Zayana
If we can figure out if she's villa or wolf it could help eliminate a potential mislynch for the wolves. I know she gets heat a lot.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
She is way more jokey as a wolf it seems, at least quick compare of those two games. Might just be her mood on a given day...
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I hate to say this, but comparing the games I think she's a wolf here. Before someone asks, I hate to say it because it seems like she really just can't catch a break with the rand. I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to get randed wolf as often as she has recently.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Her villa game feels villa. I know I used to think she always felt wolfy because her personality was more aggressive than I was used to. But really, skimming that no seer game it feels good.
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Originally Posted by bojtun
Nope was reading.
OK, only read a few pages of each, so small sample size:
In the meincraft (wolf) game she storms out of the gate aggro. She is interacting with read-related stuff and has a game-solving quality that is not as present here. But that's exhausting to do as a wolf and if she's a wolf yet again, maybe she's just tired of putting in the extra effort. But she is letting a whole bunch of people have it with stuff like this:
In the villager game, she is cool, calm, collected, insightful.
She is decidedly more like the wolf game in this game. AINEC
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Yeah, we came to the same conclusion. She also is very jokey in her wolf game, not so in her villa game.
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Originally Posted by bojtun
Well, we can't let run-bad at rand affect our decisions.
As for Sooted (aside from right nut sack making me laugh my ass off) I remember him being a really good villager and way more involved than this.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I only have like another 30 minutes tonight, after that I have to crash.
Right now I have as villas
Anarchist
Supine
CPHoya
nut
Sun
Dean
and for wolf so far I have
HiFi
I'm disappointed that Vyk didn't post at all when I totally gave him all day to change my mind. I thought I was being extremely fair about it, laying off so he didn't have to be defensive. Hopefully he'll surprise me and villager it up between 2-4am or something.