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07-25-2011 , 12:57 PM
Ok, this is why nut was killed:

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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Why is this is a safe assumption?

I know I'm villa and I really don't think any nut/zay/sun/hoya are wolves.

So among the name brand players I guess it's too soon to clear Herbie or s00ted, but I don't think we can safely assume that at least one of them is a wolf.

There's no reason that the wolf team can't be something like vyk/hifi/fnord/anarchist and they would be fully capable of letting a w/v flip occur.

It's anti-villa to just say "I want to catch the good wolf" on d2 and vote me. It's much more important that I don't get lynched early as villa than I do get lynched early as a wolf.

I mean you can be suspicious of me all you want but there's no way that you can say that this isn't my villager game. I have been working hard to clear myself here and I'm a bit surprised that I am a legitimate wagon.
If I recall correctly there are 2 of these where nut and I are listed first... This is why the wolves are wrong and nut and I are not his peeks Then once everyone believes this I need help finding his real peeks.

Day 1 Dean starts off by telling CPHoya not to clear me yet, he doesn't do this if he peeked me (he did not peek me)
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Hi Zay!!!!!

You a wolf? Don't lie to me.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I do that in either role fwiw.

I think it's a bit odd you described it as a leak but I guess it's just semantics and not necessarily wolfy.

What did Zay do that made her likely to be villa?
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Everybody <3's Zayana

But don't clear her light, she just won as an obviously peeked wolf at end game.
Ok, so this is the beginning of day 1 I'm obviously not his peek, but I'm also obviously not his N1 peek because this is the end of day 1.

First of all Dean knows I don't bus, so if there is a chance he thinks I'm a wolf and worthy of a peek here, he does NOT vote Vyk.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
sorry, vyk, didn't want to have to come to this but i'm going to throw zayana a bone since she's been working so hard and i'm going to throw aksdal a bone so he can see d2 one time

vyk
This was to sooted for implying I might be a wolf towards the end of Thursday. He would NOT have peeked me
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
i like you, but you're crazy.
So now that I have your attention, please help me find Dean's actual peeks. I have a hunch, but it's really weak. Wolves NK'd someone that wasn't peeked, after today we should have 2 clear villa's alive still. Plus myself obv
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07-25-2011 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Who wants to mix and match wolf teams with me?

I feel like it's either something like vyk/hifi/fnord/somebody or xxsooted/anarchist/somebody/somebody
This is why I don't believe Dean peeked a wolf, this is posted on day 2. Note Herbie is not in either list Ergo, Herbie is not peeked. Reading day 1 though it looks like Dean peeked him wolf, so that's what I was talking about earlier.
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07-25-2011 , 01:15 PM
I'm really worried he has some post like there are 2 villagers in x/y/z then later says y could be a wolf, but he has SO many posts that peeks like that are going to be hard to decipher.
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07-25-2011 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
This is why I don't believe Dean peeked a wolf, this is posted on day 2. Note Herbie is not in either list Ergo, Herbie is not peeked. Reading day 1 though it looks like Dean peeked him wolf, so that's what I was talking about earlier.
this means he didn't peek any of those players
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07-25-2011 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
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So now that I have your attention, please help me find Dean's actual peeks. I have a hunch, but it's really weak. Wolves NK'd someone that wasn't peeked, after today we should have 2 clear villa's alive still. Plus myself obv
And Hoya... so 4 clear villa's... 2 seer cleared, Hoya and myself. I will additionally clear a few for logical villager thought processes, and I'd imagine Hoya will too, and by the end of today hopefully we have a lynch list that wins us the game.

I really really really hope the wolves are cursing to themselves right now for killing nut last night. I mean I nut, but I don't know if he'd have realized I wasn't Dean's N1 peek. Since some of that is meta, like Dean knowing I don't bus.
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07-25-2011 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
this means he didn't peek any of those players
Yes I realize that... my hunch isn't any of those players.
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07-25-2011 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
in b4 the entire wolf team votes me.

i still kinda believe that uaw and supine are villa.

wouldn't be shocked if hifi/anarchist/fnord_too all wolves. i guess vyk would be the 4th.
this sort of looks like he could have peeked uaw and supine, but I don't think dean would use "I kinda believe" if he had

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Originally Posted by TheDean1
OK if supine is a wolf i'm going to feel dumb for making this post, but first look at the different ways i've been voted.




anarchist just says it's very suspicious that i'm pushing aksdal when he seemed to agree enough to sponge earlier. i feel like he basically knows aksdal's a villager and is accusing me of being suspicious for pushing him, a new villager should be considering that aksdal's a wolf.



here's a counter example from supine where he thinks i didn't try to find any other wolf very hard. i think he's alluding to herbie's mish mash where i called like 15 people wolves day 1, so i can see how he thinks that. and i guess he missed the part where i called aksdal wolfy earlier and thought i was just sponging. this just feels like a villagery reason to vote me and a stark contrast to anarchist.

more to come
defends supine

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Originally Posted by TheDean1
You think Zayana's performance thus far is fakeable as a wolf?

I mean if Zay's a wolf I'm kinda rooting for her to win here because she deserves it.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
maybe you are the wolf team then

fwiw i agree with this and ergo it wouldn't be shocking that both anarchist and fnord are wolves. i think at least one of them is, or one of you or uaw is tricking me.

agree?
this is very interesting

"maybe you are a wolf" to supine

the last part is complicated

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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Dean,

I Hifi is not really on my radar yet in any way, I'll go back and reread her specifically later today. I hate, utterly hate, arguments like "you would have to be high on crack to vote me over her." Logical fallacies and specious arguments make me want to puke. Sorry if it seems like I am picking on you but 1. I think you are > rand, maybe even > even money to be a wolf and 2. you keep pushing my buttons. These two things are probably related.
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
I just reread hifi, and I really don't see much there one way or another. The post dean quoted is about the worst thing I saw, but I didn't think that was so horrible. I really don't know anything about hifi or her posting style, but I didn't see anything that was really out of the character established in this game. So bottom line, I got nothing; she could be anything.

@zaya - not tl;dr. good post.
these posts seem like classic w/w to me

dean could very well be right about the wolf team being hifi/fnord/vyk/anarchist

the whole team should be in:
hifi
fnord
vyk
anarchist
supine
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07-25-2011 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
this sort of looks like he could have peeked uaw and supine, but I don't think dean would use "I kinda believe" if he had

defends supine

this is very interesting

"maybe you are a wolf" to supine

the last part is complicated

these posts seem like classic w/w to me

dean could very well be right about the wolf team being hifi/fnord/vyk/anarchist

the whole team should be in:
hifi
fnord
vyk
anarchist
supine
that's my guess and what I found... and I've been hesitant for exactly what you found...
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07-25-2011 , 01:50 PM
He does say maybe you are a wolf, but he does this :P so he's clearly joking.
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07-25-2011 , 01:52 PM
Oh and he's agreeing with him in the same post and he lumps UAW and supine again, which makes me think they are his peeks. Supine N0 and UAW N1. He states on N0 that Supine is an obviously villager, he either states over and over that he's a villager or he's a wolf. I'll find that post.
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07-25-2011 , 01:53 PM
well if supine is a villager, that's good to know but he should be crying in his pillow at night for guaranteeing dean was a wolf
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07-25-2011 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HiFi
supine, mother****ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1111
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
how about not
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Originally Posted by HiFi
Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
HiFi, supine is like the easiest read ever. Either he repeatedly promises that he's a villager, or he's a wolf.

I'm sure he could say "I'm a villager" as a wolf, but I also bet that if you interrogated him over his villageriness aggressively enough he would eventually cracked.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Supine, are you sure you're a villager?
Here you go.
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07-25-2011 , 01:54 PM
if he peeked supine and uaw, then his guess at the wolf team is at least 3/4, which would explain why they were so eager to lynch him, even if they didn't expect him to flip seer (which I don't think they did)
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07-25-2011 , 01:57 PM
I imagine herbie's secret thoughts are along these lines

in any case, regardless of dean's peeks and deadly reads, hifi is obv wolf
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07-25-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
well if supine is a villager, that's good to know but he should be crying in his pillow at night for guaranteeing dean was a wolf
I know I know I know... but I really do think he is the N0 peek. And since he got lots of immediate heat today it's partly why I've been soooooo vague. I was hoping for lots of SPEW SPEW SPEW

So, do you guys love me or what right now? Wolves are hating me. because 1) I'm soooooo crystal clear because I obviously don't make that nut kill. A because if I was a wolf I'd know it wasn't me/nut. Second, because as a wolf I'm not going to state that it wasn't me and nut
2) I'm clearing 2 people that were potential mislynches, especially given the way yesterday went down
3) Because I'm gonna be a big ol' pain in the patootie
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07-25-2011 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
if he peeked supine and uaw, then his guess at the wolf team is at least 3/4, which would explain why they were so eager to lynch him, even if they didn't expect him to flip seer (which I don't think they did)
I'm happy you saw the same thing though, because I wasn't 100% confident.
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07-25-2011 , 02:02 PM
Catching up very slowly because slammed at work, can someone just verify whether I'm peeked or not?

I'm gonna do my review tonight and post all that stuff, but let me know if I'm likely to insta-die or not.
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07-25-2011 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Yo sorry about the weekend, i was in Vegas (as is obvious) and was, uh, indisposed. Then on the drive home I couldn't get iPhone reception bla bla bla.

Not gonna say anything at all about my views on Dean getting lynched there.
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
No lynch today is the right play btw.
I don't think no lynch is the right play today. I think while we have clear villagers contributing and thinking about the wolves and helping decide lynches we should take advantage of that.
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07-25-2011 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Catching up very slowly because slammed at work, can someone just verify whether I'm peeked or not?

I'm gonna do my review tonight and post all that stuff, but let me know if I'm likely to insta-die or not.
You are not peeked, but you are seer hunt cleared from Mikey dying N0.
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07-25-2011 , 02:09 PM
Sun: Please tell me you've decided on me being lock-villager You said you wouldn't even think about me for a couple of days, have you thought about it?
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07-25-2011 , 02:10 PM
k

HiFi seems like the obvious vote to me for now.

I guess saving the no lynch is fine, we can use it to gain a little clarity after peeked players are dead.
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07-25-2011 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
sun, you can't vote me over hifi when you have never corrected cleared me as a villager on tone.

and ofc i'm going to attack vyk when he hard claims seer with a dean = wolf peek when i'm lead wagon.

supine's confidence in my wolfdom seems like that of a misguided villagery and i look forward to controlling his avatar.

anarchist is probably a wolf because he lays off me when i don't get pressure and immediately votes me whenever the pressure turns up. just because a few people are tonereading him as villa doesn't make me the wolf and him the villager- his role is still unconfirmed.

hifi has basically given up which i really wouldn't expect her to do as a villager. she needs to die regardless.

otoh i'm a villager and will in due time clear myself and draw a night kill because that's what i do.

if you guys wanna be ******ed heroes and lynch me over the obvious wolf then you get what you deserve.
Just for more thoughts on UAW Supine clear stuff...
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07-25-2011 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
k

HiFi seems like the obvious vote to me for now.

I guess saving the no lynch is fine, we can use it to gain a little clarity after peeked players are dead.
Thank you I want to avoid more flips... and if villagers are voting together wolves will have less control over lynches at least it works that way in my mind
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07-25-2011 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Just for more thoughts on UAW Supine clear stuff...
That post was also 15 minutes til EOD, he really thought he had more time to clear himself. I think Supine will be a little bit more careful about his phrasing and guarantees in the future.
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07-25-2011 , 02:18 PM
I can tell I'm going to have to re-read Dean carefully, I'm uneasy with this analysis.
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