I'm not saying I'm a sweet wolf. I'm saying that helping new players is role neutral. I'd 100% do that in either role. Why, because it's nice if the new players get hooked on ww, and they won't do that if they are just confused and hounded by people. More people hooked on ww is good.

*laugh* If we have a good handle on someone else I'd like to give him more time, for 3 reasons, 1 he's newer, 2 he's more likely to spew, 3 if he really is a villa as a newer players it'll probably become obvious. I'm really leaning 1 and 2, but 3 is possible.

in before tl;dr on my post... except titan isn't playing...

My call lasted 6 minutes...so I decided to reread XXsooted instead of work...

Undecided I guess. The question I guess is would XXsooted open "I'm not a ****ing wolf" as a wolf? I don't know the answer to that question...

To expand on what I left yesterday I was already leaning wolf on aksdal but for a pretty lousy reason. In the game that must not be mentioned he pretty much came in as villa and owned souls immediately as a villa. Others obviously noted the ambiguity with which he came into this game. Even though, as he said the first three pages were leveling between experienced teammates/opponents he hasn't done enough proactive work to make me think he's acting like he was when he was clearly doing well in said game that we must never mention. He's been playing way too much defense imo. I'm willing to accept the fact that his reason (excuse?) is legit if we lynch him and he's villa. And I'll certainly have a new level of thinking to do when I see him in the game next time.

Still, he's a pretty obv lynch it seems and that leads me to a question. Is it better to lynch a UTR day one (kind of like a free seer peek where it doesn't hurt you as much early?) and keep someone you think is >>>rand to be a wolf around for a later day or do you take the seemingly sure thing when it's presented?

I miss titan. And I read most of your post (probably).

I don't see why that should be eliminated from anybody's wolf range ever.

Dean's vote of me isn't serious...he just wants to press me as he has soul read me before and is trying to do it again with some pressure.

He was randed wolf back to back and he didn't do his wheeeeeeeeeeee thing, so I gave him a villa lean.

A lot of good points have been made about aksdal, but the rate at which the wagon picked up speed disturbs me.

I suppose if it was in their repertoire it would be balanced...

Question for village: is soft-defending aksdal at this time Village or Wolf?

this is a leak in your game

i have no idea what you mean by this

villa imo if only because watching him post in the future and others' responses will give us more clues to who the others wolves are if he is, in fact, a wolf.

why?

The thing that should always worry villagers about lynching a UTR or non-poster is you could hit the villa PR in this case seer. So, people wanting to hit a UTR or non-poster always makes me think wolf.

And that answer I just gave to your question was the way I lean on the question I asked. I'm not sure though. Could be a major early leak I need plugged.

does it make him less likely to be a wolf in anyway?

if so, explain how.

Anyone who compares his posts can tell he's different here though.

Quick pile-ons generally require wolves to participate. The chances that a huge pile-on occurs with zero wolf participation is very slim. If wolves are participating in the pile-on, the potential lynch is more likely to be a villager.

Right?

Being a utr seer on day seems like a terrible strategy. Actually, being a mute villager in general seems awful to me. You're giving/getting no information, risking d1 utr lynch, and risking nk by a wolf group that has no read on seer itt.

d1 is what I meant specifically. not day*

I think it depends on how it's done, and I think you can recognize that. It all depends on his role though, until he flips and we know for sure, it's hard to judge.

This actually shouldn't worry villagers nearly as much as it does.

Lynching UTRs might be wolfy for new players because it's easier to do than making a wolf case on a villager who is posting.

if there's little merit to the initial claim i'd agree with you. a lot of us though seem to have a similar read on the guy. and it's more than a little strong for the others even if mine is just an observation that makes me uneasy. fwiw I still haven't voted for him.

Isn't it a bit much comparing two single games and deciding since he sounds different in them he has to be a wolf? There's not enough data.