You are ignoring the fact that there were like 300 posts of total ****ing bull**** and inside jokes the first few pages of this thread. Playing in a game where nobody knows each other is WAAAAYY different than coming in here and everyone is buddies. In a game of new players I can assume everyone is on level 1 and make easy reads. That isn't true here. (I'm pretty sure I even said this earlier. Its too annoying to quote stuff on different pages but it should be on pg 2 or 3) Youre wasting jumping up and down to get me lynched.

It's also verry frustrating that you had your "case" on me yesterday but chose not to say it until right before you were leaving for EOD.

Aks- I really want to believe that, but it's not just that you did it, it's how you did it.

Your tone seemed moreso afraid of being caught than overwhelmed.

Best thing to do in this spot is to make an effort to figure out what's going on. Even if you're wrong, a sincere effort can go a long way toward de-railing your wagon pressure.

Also regarding my reads in other games. One was that spazzy = wolfy, so I've lost a little confidence in that one since that would make thisgamr have 10 wolves

My other reads were off too.

that's all part of the learning curve.

early on in your ww career, you find some villagery things wolfy and some wolfy things villagery. you then re-adjust and form new hypotheses the next game.

so, just take a stab at trying to figure some stuff out and see how it goes.

My tone sounds like that because all I really want is to nit get faking lynched d1

I'll do what I can to try to figure thugs out in the next few hours

Ok I know I'm villa and since it seems likely u get lynched d1 or d2 wolves are more likely to go UTR or at least not attack me super hard because they font have to. One wagon today should be an UTR.

Thoughts on Bojtun: he seems pretty confident in his read on my but he's wrong. He's trying to get other ppl to vote for me and assumed other people would argue that point for him once he left. Seems pretty arrogant (it is the Internet though). The fact that hrs campaigning against me so hard makes me want to give him a wolf lean, but the fact that he's trying to be the biggest villager makes me want to give him a villa lean. So idfk

Zayana seems very villa for reasons she mentioned about helping noobs but I'm still aware she could be doing that as a wolf for more +ev spots later in the game

Dean youre my biggest villa lean. The fact that you think I'm a provably a wolf but will still tell me how I can help clear myself because you think i might be villa makes me think that you know I could b a villa and could eventually prove it too. So if Boykin had a case against me, but knew that I could disprove it and clear myself, I think he should make me aware of it and allow myself to be cleared, because isn't that the while point?

Just got called out for being on my phone for an hour. Bbl

Alright, I'm out for basically the rest of the day. I'll check in when I can.

I just skimmed to catch up, apparently aksdal is some sort of Crate & Barrel wolf?

Yo all...okay I got a few minutes...

1. So CP and Sun are taking turns driving the van. In that van for sure is bojtun and dean...

2. Zaya seems like a villager to me, but I don't know what to make of the "I'm a villager...but I'm such a sweet wolf I could be a wolf right now" talk.

3. HiFi reacted weirdly to what are essentially joke votes in the beginning of the game. Possibly frustrated with the rand()er?

Pushing people hard, especially without a TON of evidence, is village.

MikeyObviously

still think aksdal is a wolf but the sensitive side of me says that we should give him an extra day since he's new and at least participating.

maybe i've been hanging out with Zayana too much.

oh hey convenient xposts.

keep going mikey so i can peer into your soul and whatnot

Oh yeah and Anarchist is a villager. I don't see a newb wolf making jokes about being a wolf ITT.

I have a conference call and then a bit of work...I'll be back in like an hour.

1. I'm not sure what this means.

2. Zaya is a villager.

3. I was just a wolf like 12 games in a row, now I'm finally a villager and I was pissed as hell when I saw people voting me before I'd even said anything. If you haven't been randed wolf a zillion times in a row (and you haven't because you've only played ~5 games), you have no idea how grating and tiring it is, and how excited I was to be a villager again before I saw I had votes for no reason. Yeah, they were probably joke votes, and I hugely overreacted, but you have to look at it in context.

dean dean dean!

haha I still think you are village right now but you claiming to have a sensitive side is a wolf tell...

mets says dean has a sensitive side

that's my name.

do you have any villageriness to bestow upon the village atm?

I've seen Fnord work a pretty convincing village game as a wolf...going as far as to keep the vote counts and generally act like the worlds most villagey villager as a wolf. Seems like he is posting a lot less today but that could be IRL stuff.

Trying to creepy hey baby me on the sly, I see how it is. Yeah, the shrinking up and defensive mode only is what I'm trying to avoid. Now I reveal my hidden agenda, basically the newer wolves are more likely to spew people too. So ideally you leave them alone and let them be comfortable for a while, before you vote and lean on them too hard... At least that's my thoughts.

NM, I got all that, and then went to bed after asking dumb questions cause I was tired...

So the answer to this was no, I had crashed.

I really want CP to be a villager this game, but after watching him wolf a few games I was modding (albeit turbos) I don't know if I could trust him even if I thought he was a villager. If that makes sense. He levels and fakes villa sooooo flipping well when he has to in turbos where you have to think fast I can only imagine the deviousness he can come up with in a slow game.

Pretty sure I didn't... closest thing was my lame case on Homer.

Can't remember who this was about, I think Anarchist... in which case I agree, a couple of things bothered me about him, but overall I lean villa on him.

I hope so.

Why did you feel it necessary to put the second sentence? Why do people think hard or soft claiming wolf is smart or funny regardless of role? My #1 ww pet peeve right there.

I really really really don't see how you can possibly think I'm a wolf after the game we just wolfed together. I'm not sure if you've seen my villager game though, if you care to compare I'll give you one.

I laughed

This.

More Hoya villa stuff, I commented on that already.

I'll be yelling at a CFD given how much time we have to figure out legit votes and wagons without CFDing.

I pretty much agree with this, he feels nothing like I'd expect him to be as a villager.

Agree with this.

his tone is very very different, but I can't go into that a ton

He's not technically new anymore, so day 1 pass doesn't entirely apply. If we can find another wolf though I'd be inclined to give him an extra day. Get him addicted and all.

I can see this, but you did gt NKd night 1, so your reads weren't that bad

I 100% would help new players wolf or villa, but there is plenty I've done/said that I just don't do as a wolf. I actually can't do as a wolf, I'm not very good at making up fake wolf cases on villagers. I'm not comfortable doing it at all. Dean knows this better than anyone in this game that's played with me. I'm wolf hunting and trying to solve the game... ergo, I'm villager.