X-Men: First Class Slow Vanilla Game Thread - Page 16

A lot of it is thought process and meta... Are you trying to figure things out, asking questions, trying to find wolves? Or are you in commentator mode, just respewing the thread and talking mechanics and past games and nothing about the current game and players and reads in it? The latter group is >>>>>>>>>>> rand to be wolves, the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rand to be villagers. Vote day 1 based on that, factor in voting, seer hunt clears, and weird wagon things later.

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07-21-2011 , 03:46 PM

#378

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Originally Posted by TheDean1

Well I mean I don't have any mindbogglingly awesome contributions at the moment.

I don't particularly disagree with anything anybody has said.

I push newbs in both roles. Tbh, I'm less likely to jump on newbs as a wolf because I want to earn their trust and manipulate them and stuff.

When I have a brilliant thought you'll be the first to hear it. Until then I will just hang out and interact and share whatever random thoughts come to mind.

I like this. And would do the exact same thing. unvote

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07-21-2011 , 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zayana

I got all that except what's a wagon?

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07-21-2011 , 03:48 PM

#380

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

Herbie can we mason or are you not clear yet? I can't even tell anymore, I just don't worry about you until later.

he's clear

mason away

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07-21-2011 , 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

as a wolf, I rarely say anything that isn't true

It's not that I think you'd say something deliberately false, but manipulating the thread and currents events to paint an incorrect picture.

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07-21-2011 , 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDean1

A) rigged that you believe herbie's promise and not mine w/ me being more villagery anyhow
B) still bounce **** off me i should be at least 75% villa in your head

75% is less than rand()

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07-21-2011 , 03:49 PM

#383

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Originally Posted by Zayana

It's not that I think you'd say something deliberately false, but manipulating the thread and currents events to paint an incorrect picture.

me?

nevar

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07-21-2011 , 03:50 PM

#384

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

claiming lack of intelligence is either a wolf tell or a character flaw

or just a blatant lie. which i guess could be construed as a character flaw. but i don't see it as such. doesn't make me less of a villa though.

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07-21-2011 , 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarchist

AGGRO!

shadowmeld before anyone notices you pulled

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07-21-2011 , 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

shadowmeld before anyone notices you pulled

Sorry I have no idea what this means lol.

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07-21-2011 , 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarchist

I got all that except what's a wagon?

sorry... you generally want to vote on wagon at EOD... I'm not the best at that and will usually vote my best wolf guess wagon be damned (I get in trouble for it though, so maybe don't be like me). So if we have 6 people on x and 5 people on y at the end of the day, you probably want to vote your best wolf guess of those two. If you have no opinion of those two people, you can sometimes go based on your villa reads and see who they seem to be voting. You'll hear people talk about clean wagons, meaning they think everyone on a wagon is a villager. Note, villager's make mistakes and clean wagons lynch villagers too. So go with your best wolf guess first.

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07-21-2011 , 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD

Whatever game it was where you and Dean were wolves together I was going to push you HARD if I was alive on day 2

My game wasn't really a fair test because you could actually wolf hunt, I don't think I'd be able to pick you out as a wolf if you could actually wolf hunt. That's the only situation where I think a really good villager can fully fake his villager game as a wolf, otherwise the lack of true wolf hunting will eventually give him away

yeah, this is one of the reasons I hate multi-faction games

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07-21-2011 , 03:53 PM

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Yeah that's what I assumed.

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07-21-2011 , 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

my first thought was "that's kind of villagery"

but then I thought about this game and what's been posted so far and I don't see how that's possible, even for a noob

could be another blatant lie. isn't the role of vanillager to try and force wolves to seer hunt him d1? That's about all I got out of d1 in my first attempt.

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07-21-2011 , 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

me?

nevar

why would you lie to me like that? :P

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07-21-2011 , 03:55 PM

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In general, how are you supposed to guess anyone's role before the first vote has happened?

D1 reading is hard. Some people pride themselves on being able to do it well but are probably not aware enough of sample size and confirmation bias. As a new player it's even harder since you don't have any experience from earlier games with other players.

WW is a lot like sex. You're likely to be awkward and push on the wrong things the first time. Luckily, having an experienced partner helps and you'll find several in this game. Just don't trust sweet-talking men.

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07-21-2011 , 03:57 PM

#393

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Originally Posted by Zayana

I think the mets on a gimmick thing was aimed at nutjob this morning... because he spammed the thread. If that assumption was wrong I'm sure HiFi or Sun will clear that up.

What were your thoughts though when you initially asked about Sun posting a lot? before he made the comment about mets.

yeah, boj was spamming like mets which is what the first mets reference was about

then I also mentioned that HiFi was acting like emo-mets

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07-21-2011 , 03:57 PM

#394

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Originally Posted by Supine

WW is a lot like sex. You're likely to be awkward and push on the wrong things the first time. Luckily, having an experienced partner helps and you'll find several in this game. Just don't trust sweet-talking men.

ahahahaha

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07-21-2011 , 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

could be another blatant lie. isn't the role of vanillager to try and force wolves to seer hunt him d1? That's about all I got out of d1 in my first attempt.

Who fed you that load of malarky??? Lying is wolfy... yes you want to be seer hunted, BUT you also have to be clear and not throw confusion into the thread or you open yourself up for mislynch later. Which if you are lying you are failing at everything after the BUT...

I know who fed you the malarky, I'm just poking at him with a stick

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07-21-2011 , 03:59 PM

#396

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Originally Posted by Anarchist

Sorry I have no idea what this means lol.

I'll give 4 sun tzu points to the first person to say what it means

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07-21-2011 , 03:59 PM

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meh, I'm a dork for putting a smiley at the end of my white text

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07-21-2011 , 04:00 PM

#398

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oh yeah, before I forget

I'll give 8 sun tzu points to the first person to say why I unvoted

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07-21-2011 , 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I'll give 4 sun tzu points to the first person to say what it means

Shadowmeld was an ability in WC3 right?

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07-21-2011 , 04:01 PM

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I'll give 4 sun tzu points to the first person to say what it means

I think you're telling me to stop posting before people figure out I did something, not sure what the thing I did was though.

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