thanks for telling me to reread. this has been helpful.

well named

The only thing that's going to keep me from just full out trolling you is that I do actually want to win this game, if that is even possible :P

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	tappokone	Willi (14), well named (20)
1	vixticator	tmleafs1967 (3)
1	Steve Yzerman fan	Telcontar (5)
1	well named	CalledDownLight (25)
1	no lynch	tappokone (11)
4	not voting	vixticator (0), tylertwo (3), Steve Yzerman fan (0), ReddBoiler (7)

so u think it was v/v last night to set up another Villager kill today cdl?

I had to laugh when I saw your comment. When I saw Willi's reads, I was thinking wow, that guy is more confused than I am. I think an experienced player should sound more certain than that by now; he will be my next read.

BTW, as I said, I am always in the game, I'm just off rereading and thinking. It's the only way I know how to play.

With that, I am about sixty percent done with Telcon. Nothing really bad stands out as far as wolf, but I do agree with the comment made by someone else who said his voice is very controlled. There is not much emotion in his posting, but that may be how he posts. As I get into the later posts (I'm going first to last), there does seem to be more "beef", so i hope to be able to give a more definitive read by the time I'm done.

could very well be. I have no interest in lynching steve today.

I'm not sure what is more shocking to me, the fact that it's so hard to get him lynched, or the idea of him flipping villager. It's close though

whats your plan for tomorrow when steve flips villa and I am dead with no clear villas left at mustlynch?

My plan in that unlikely event is to get lynched and enjoy getting LOL'd at in post game.

If I'm allowed to be serious for a moment, you're not going to clear me in this game. If you're a wolf, you're obviously not going to do it. If you're a villager, you're reading me in reverse and that's not going to change till you see the reveal. To be more precise, the things you say are wolfy - taking issue with your Steve read or being unsure about who's what or doing work without reaching a firm conclusion - are all things I do as a villager and sometimes imitate but try to keep to a minimum as a wolf.

When I'm wolfing, I tend to appear to be wolf/villager with wolfy wolves (assuming for the sake of argument that your Steve read is correct); it's easy enough when you know who they are. My posting volume is higher; I do about the same amount of work, but a larger percentage of it is geared toward having a visible end product. I generally know what I want to do; figuring out good wolf strategy is much easier than finding wolves. I reach firm conclusion more often; people find it villagery and there's no need to worry about getting a read wrong, as long as it looks good. And the set of reads that look good is much larger than the set of reads that are correct.

I mean, there's a reason my lynch rate is about twice as high as a villager.

I don't think that sounds like a very good plan.

Here's what I'm going to do today. I'm going to vote for whichever of SYF or tappo I can actually get lynched. I still prefer SYF. If you get me lynched, I'm going down with my vote on SYF, come what may.

I don't even know how useful it is for me to do more re-reading today, because I feel like the cases on both of them are out there and unrefuted. That said, as soon as I'm done getting through some work, I'll probably keep on doing what I've been doing, slowly re-reading the entire thread. I'm also pretty interested in what telcontar has to say today.

The bottom line is I can't make you guys clear me, even though I think you should, and it's well established that I can't force you to lynch who I want lynched. As far as I'm concerned my hands are clean and I'm blameless in whatever happens. I will fight the good fight and do everything I can to win this game. You guys can do whatever you want.

tappo you still aren't actually giving any reads on anything. I don't care about your meta

on way out door for turkey dinner @ 3 , be back later

would this end the game or not? I feel like villager wn would actually have a plan here.

might wanna try tappo if those are your two choices. I'm gonna go down swinging for syf like I have for so many villas before him.

so I googled this canadian thanksgiving thing to make sure an all-canadian wolf team wasnt pulling one over on us and it seems to be a real thing.

If you prefer Steve, why did you start out voting for me? Surely the time for wagon consolidation is later.

Your read on me also seems to be conditional on Steve being a wolf, which makes going me first worse still.

I'm voting tappo right now boss.

There's no reason for me to have a plan for what to do if SYF flips villager. That's partly because in that event I fully expect my lynch to finally be realized, and if I can't convince people that I'm a villager right now, I doubt I could convince them then.

But the other reason is simply because there is no need for a plan, the plan is automatic, and the same as it is every day. If I am alive in this game I will work as hard as I am able to solve the game given the information I have. That's it. I don't think SYF is a villager. My first inclination in the case that he was would be to lynch tappo/telcontar/vix I guess. I would probably have to reconsider willi also. I'm fairly sure everyone else is clear. But it seems far more likely to me that willi and vix are villagers and SYF is a wolf then the other way around.

...and that's why I'm okay with trolling you when you demand me to do things that would be easier to do if I was a wolf.

Because we need to start building a consensus, and CDL was the person I was hoping to build consensus with. Because there are 3 wolves and my goal is to get one of them lynched, not to force everyone to do what I want. If you doubt the sincerity of my desire to lynch SYF, I think you're out in the weeds, but what I was trying to do was work with other villagers because that will probably be more useful than just trying to force my will to be done

It shouldn't be hard for you to actually take a stand on SYF or myself as a villager.

Now is the time for villagers to make their best reads and go with them. Give me your best read. Tell me whether SYF is a wolf or a villager. Who do you want to lynch today? What is your strategy for winning the game? All I ask of my fellow villagers is that they try to help me win. My opinion is that you are not doing so. I'm not asking for much.

So today's choice essentially comes down to who is lying between tappo and well named.

well named

Might even be a serious vote.

Lynching Steve would be easier than lynching me. There's more support for it. Dude's been posting wolfy. How does pushing the less popular option equal "building consensus"?