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07-05-2009 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
unfortunatley not . I also do not know howl ong until night too.

Digger - unless - you say you stared at my avater for 10 minutes in awe of her beauty; I've lost all respect for you frankly.
Nice howl
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07-05-2009 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
This message is hidden because OnThInIcE911 is on your ignore list.

Hun is there something OTI is saying that we should listen to?
Can you refresh my memory on this post? I'm just like.....huh?
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07-05-2009 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
Bitchibee......please answer my question today.

In your opinion, Am I a villager or am I a wolf?
I don't really know. Your behavior d1 is consistent with my impression of you in june 8th, but eod yesterday and the cordi incident is weird and awkward.

Following people is not what I've seen from your village game (the felix incident in june 8th), and you missing mcavoy's -if- statement; coming from you who reads things extremely careful is quite bad. I will have to do a full reread and report back.

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
Nice howl
Why TY
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07-05-2009 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
Can you refresh my memory on this post? I'm just like.....huh?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=489
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07-05-2009 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
My belief in this game is that "everything has a reason". I try to put myself in your shoes and figure out the reason why you would start a spreadsheet, post it twice, and when asked to see it again...make up a reson not to post it. Why don't you tell me the reason? The spreadsheet is a mute point..I'm not asking you to post it...the reason behind it is what I'm interested to hear.
Sure BEG,

Making the spreadsheet takes a significant amount of time. I first began making the spreadsheet in a 13-player slow game and that was good because it helps me focus a lot, "forces" me to read posts very carefully to really see what everyone is saying about each other. Lets me get in tune with the "winds of the game" a lot better.

The downside is ultimately at the end of the day the only people's opinions I =really= care about are those who I think are villagers. So that's why I said yesterday (real yesterday, not game yesterday) I thought I had a new idea - just keep track of my villagers' reads. But that doesn't work because as I find new villagers I'd have to re-read the entire game for their reads which is a bit much.


For those of you who remember antidan, he spent a hell of a lot of time analyzing stuff, I can only imagine how much time he spent with his own "vote tally / spreadsheet" thing. I sort of wanted to emulate him, but it's too much work. I'd be a better player if I kept one, but it takes too much time. Keeping track of 25 players' reads is posssssible but I don't want anything to do with that, at least I'm able to keep my own reads straight now

And that is the story of the spreadsheet
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07-05-2009 , 03:38 PM
Bigger has claimed villager in a way that seems "villagery" to me.

Not much I can say past that. That's good enough for me for now.

[unvote Bigger]

I move onto my next suspect:

[vote Jennifer Garner]

1. GT1T suspected McAvoy, Jennifer Garner, and VayaConDios on day one. I like to think GT1T's reads are better than average. Vaya was possibly acting shady because he was a vigilante so that's a "correct" read. Jennifer Garner...? That may be his correct read.

2. Jennifer Garner has done nothing to let me know he's a villager. When he's a villager, I guarantee you that he does something to let me know.

3. Jennifer Garner has been very silent. I suspect he likes being a villager more than a wolf.


I feel very good about this vote.

[vote Jennifer Garner]
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07-05-2009 , 03:41 PM
jennifer garner
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07-05-2009 , 03:47 PM
Luckay,

I don't think Bigger's claim was that believable

I don't think that he has responded to his wagon in a very villagery way at all. His strategy seems to be to try and ignore it and hope that it goes away.
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07-05-2009 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinG
Luckay,

I don't think Bigger's claim was that believable

I don't think that he has responded to his wagon in a very villagery way at all. His strategy seems to be to try and ignore it and hope that it goes away.
...which would explain why he gets mislynched so much.

I mean that post SOUNDED like (to me) and I could be wrong of a villager who's gotten lynched one too many times and is resigned to his fate.


Is there going to, by must lynch, be something biggerboat has done that will clear him? Possibly not.


But TODAY I am willing to give him some decent villager points for his "sad villager post" and instead move to my next suspect who is way up there, possibly even surpassing bigger anyways. Jennifer Garner.




Biggerboat, question: If you're alive at must lynch, what can you possibly have done to clear yourself?
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07-05-2009 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
I don't really know. Your behavior d1 is consistent with my impression of you in june 8th, but eod yesterday and the cordi incident is weird and awkward.

Following people is not what I've seen from your village game (the felix incident in june 8th), and you missing mcavoy's -if- statement; coming from you who reads things extremely careful is quite bad. I will have to do a full reread and report back.



Why TY
You're a wolf....

Bitchibee

You should know positively 100% that I am a villager. How many times have I said, "I give my word I'm a villager"......and out of those times, how many times was I lying? I guess I'm going to have to go pull some statistics on that as proof, but I guarantee the answer is ZERO.

I recall playing several turbos with you recently on that new automated site that you showed me. One of those games, I said, "I give my word, I'm a villager".....you immediately jumped to my defense, screamed to the others not to vote for me, because I was a villager, and I was a villager. You picked up on it then, and automatically knew what it meant.

But yet....I said the same thing here....and "You don't really know". Yes, you DO know.....you are just pretending that you don't, and the only reason that I can see you doing that is because you are a wolf.

I will NEVER give my word, if it isn't true. I will say, "No, I'm not", avoid the question, say anything else but "give my word"......and, you know that, because we have talked about it before in another game. It doesn't work if you ask me, or corner me, or put pressure on me. If I volunteer it, under no duress....it is true...period.

Bitchibee is a wolf!
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07-05-2009 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
Sure BEG,

Making the spreadsheet takes a significant amount of time. I first began making the spreadsheet in a 13-player slow game and that was good because it helps me focus a lot, "forces" me to read posts very carefully to really see what everyone is saying about each other. Lets me get in tune with the "winds of the game" a lot better.

The downside is ultimately at the end of the day the only people's opinions I =really= care about are those who I think are villagers. So that's why I said yesterday (real yesterday, not game yesterday) I thought I had a new idea - just keep track of my villagers' reads. But that doesn't work because as I find new villagers I'd have to re-read the entire game for their reads which is a bit much.


For those of you who remember antidan, he spent a hell of a lot of time analyzing stuff, I can only imagine how much time he spent with his own "vote tally / spreadsheet" thing. I sort of wanted to emulate him, but it's too much work. I'd be a better player if I kept one, but it takes too much time. Keeping track of 25 players' reads is posssssible but I don't want anything to do with that, at least I'm able to keep my own reads straight now

And that is the story of the spreadsheet
I understand totally. I take notes as well, and it's hard to manage for sure...especially in the bigger games. I like how you talked in circles a little bit there, but it's cool. I'll just reserve my opinion on you for now.
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07-05-2009 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
I don't have anything to claim. I'm a vanilla villa. I'm always a vanilla villa (well close to vanilla). I've been mislynched in almost every game I've ever played unless I was cleared. I was about to be mislynched in road trip when I had to claim suicide bomber. The only one where I wasn't was SW but someone blew up my planet. And, it looks like it is going to happen again.
<<Insert DMK's "quit whining" speech here>>

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Originally Posted by DustinG
Luckay,

I don't think Bigger's claim was that believable

I don't think that he has responded to his wagon in a very villagery way at all. His strategy seems to be to try and ignore it and hope that it goes away.
Agree

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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
...which would explain why he gets mislynched so much.

I mean that post SOUNDED like (to me) and I could be wrong of a villager who's gotten lynched one too many times and is resigned to his fate.


Is there going to, by must lynch, be something biggerboat has done that will clear him? Possibly not.


But TODAY I am willing to give him some decent villager points for his "sad villager post" and instead move to my next suspect who is way up there, possibly even surpassing bigger anyways. Jennifer Garner.




Biggerboat, question: If you're alive at must lynch, what can you possibly have done to clear yourself?
Luckay bought it.

You all lynched me last game for this very thing....playing the sympathy card, and not providing reads.
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07-05-2009 , 04:33 PM
OK, I'm going to be leaving quite soon. I won't be back at eod. I'll be here a few more minutes to answer any questions, but not too long.

I think coordi is wolf (ldo), but I'm not going to waste a vote on someone that isn't going to get any other votes.

My second candidate is OTI. I think some others are on to him as well and my vote might count there. Please everyone take a look at his shenanigans on d2.

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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck

Biggerboat, question: If you're alive at must lynch, what can you possibly have done to clear yourself?
Nothing unless I was peeked.

BTW - as an aside. I'll be heading out to watch Chicken **** bingo. If anyone is unfamiliar, the floor of a big cage is marked with numbered squares. Drunk rednecks pay for numbers. The chicken is put in the cage and said drunk rednecks yell for the chicken to poop on their number. Hilarity ensues.

DON'T LYNCH ME!
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07-05-2009 , 04:36 PM
BEG please, that is beyond ridiculous.
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07-05-2009 , 04:52 PM
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You picked up on it then, and automatically knew what it meant.
The reason I defended you in the epic mafia game was because of your tone, not because of your word. In that transitory, and anonomous enviroment it would have been easy for you to get angry, and make sharp comments; but even when some idiots were random lynching you, you didn't, your tone was calm and one of dismay, not the angry sharp Wolf BEG.

I haven't played many games with you that 1 on e.m., 1 turbo, and 3 long games (although pb shouldn't count, I never really paid attention) - I never noticed that "part" of your game. I made a big deal of the same thing in arrows, and noone really believed me, nor on reflection should I expect them to, nor should you espect me to. To say I'm a wolf for not drinking your coolaid is absurd.
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07-05-2009 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
BEG please, that is beyond ridiculous.
Nope....fraid not....I will see if I can pull that game and prove it to you and the rest of the villagers.

It will have to wait until later though, but count on it.
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07-05-2009 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
The reason I defended you in the epic mafia game was because of your tone, not because of your word. In that transitory, and anonomous enviroment it would have been easy for you to get angry, and make sharp comments; but even when some idiots were random lynching you, you didn't, your tone was calm and one of dismay, not the angry sharp Wolf BEG.

I haven't played many games with you that 1 on e.m., 1 turbo, and 3 long games (although pb shouldn't count, I never really paid attention) - I never noticed that "part" of your game. I made a big deal of the same thing in arrows, and noone really believed me, nor on reflection should I expect them to, nor should you espect me to. To say I'm a wolf for not drinking your coolaid is absurd.
We get that you don't like coolaid....I don't know why you keep referencing that....but this post is such bologna.....great way to back pedal, but I'm not buying it.

BitchiBee is a wolf!
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07-05-2009 , 06:17 PM
[5] biggerboat --- oti
[1] bitchibee --- jg
[2] browneyedgirl --- bitchi
[_] coordi ---
[_] dustin --- bigger
[_] elliot ---
[_] fcbl --- bigger
[1] gtpitch --- beg
[2] jennifer ---
[1] luckay --- jg
[_] m1ke --- icon
[_] myrrth (wn) --- icon
[2] onthinice --- bigger
[_] scrubbo (aries) --- bigger
[_] sixfour --- oti
[2] the icon --- luckay
[_] vaya --- beg
[_] zomghax --- bigger
[_] zurvan --- gtpitch
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07-05-2009 , 06:18 PM
BEG - you realize that once you say "I've never said I give my word" as a wolf, it becomes useless as a villager tell, right? Unless you're purposely messing up your wolf game to be a clearer villager, then you should be saying that whenever you're a wolf. At best it's a null tell; using someone's refusal to use it as a villager tell as basis for a vote is pretty awful.

It looks to me almost like you're a wolf that needs an excuse to hop on a villager wagon.
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07-05-2009 , 07:11 PM
I really don't like the people on biggerboat right now lol...

I'm pretty sure out of luckay/oti/beg ... 2/3 are wolves... 1 is for sure.

OTI
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07-05-2009 , 08:18 PM
JG
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07-05-2009 , 08:22 PM
BEG explain eod yesterday please -

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
I'm here....cliffnotes anyone?
9:17 - you come looking for cliffs
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Originally Posted by well named
cliffnotes:

The Icon and zurvan are wolves

bitchibee and gtpitch are villagers

mcavoy and digger (and everyone else) are undetermined
9:19- well named provides

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
Okay....I can roll with this. What's the vote count....where should I put my vote.
9:24 - you agree, how many of the new posts had you read by this point?
Red - the McA comment which you agreed with is interesting - today you came and attacked me for reading mcavoy wrong, impling I should've been able to read him better as villager. you have such a special connection to McAcoy (you've spent a good part of the day talking about him) how can you just agree that hes indeterminant?
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
You pushed for AAO too....so, don't really trust you yet.

Zurvan
You agree I'm a villa, but you don't trust me?
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GTPITCH
You agree that gtpitch is villa but you spite vote him? (how is that pro-village? - something you've been hammering bigger about all today.)
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07-05-2009 , 08:27 PM
Is it weird that I have no read at all on bigger? The case against him seems to boil down to Dustin saying "because I said so", and then everyone else following along. What am I missing?
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07-05-2009 , 08:29 PM
Who should be Fresh Prince-ified tonight?
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07-05-2009 , 08:30 PM
Ok guys I'm here. Sorry been busy with RL stuff this weekend even moreso with the holiday etc etc etc. I've read pretty much every thing up to this point.

I'd be very very surprised if BB is a wolf this game. Bitchi, don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think his wolf game is good enough to be like this.

Looking at other wagons that leaves biggerboat, OTI, Icon, and zurvan's vote for me (again lol).

I'm gonna need a case on the icon. I don't remember many of his posts past like D1. biggerboat still seems wolfy and his claim seems wolfy right with it.

I also think LuckayLuck is a wolf this game. Discuss
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