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07-03-2009 , 02:22 PM

#601

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I take it VCD claimed vig and lived through the night? I'm going to start at the beginning but I'm curious

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07-03-2009 , 02:24 PM

#602

m1ke

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vcd claimed vig, but then the wolves dont really care that much about him imo

its fine if he claims vig and the angel protects him

it just reduces the number of likely seers by 1, increasing chances that hte wolves pick off goldblum

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07-03-2009 , 02:24 PM

#603

Dudd

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VCD claimed vig, told us who he was going to kill, asked for angel protection, and we woke up in the morning with two humans dead, one of which was the one VCD said he was going to kill, but no indication who was killed by which faction.

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07-03-2009 , 02:25 PM

#604

m1ke

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lets just let the vaya claim thing rest for today i thnk its going to be distracting

wolves love this kind of debates as they don't really further a village cause

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07-03-2009 , 02:25 PM

#605

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ok cool.

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07-03-2009 , 02:26 PM

#606

m1ke

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one last thing actually:

Vaya are you taking suggestions for your NK?

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07-03-2009 , 02:32 PM

#607

Zurvan

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OK, so gtpitch was here right away this morning, all ready and willing to defend himself. I point out why I think last night was wolfy, he posts his preplanned defence, and then disappears when it looks like there's not going to be further heat.

gtpitch

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07-03-2009 , 02:33 PM

#608

ZomgHax

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He's posting in the slow game fwiw.

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07-03-2009 , 02:33 PM

#609

m1ke

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Originally Posted by Zurvan

hah was just contemplating writing a post about this

gtpitch

i am out for the night

p.s. i am top 5 in posting in this thread (new high score)

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07-03-2009 , 02:36 PM

#610

AriesRam

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Originally Posted by coordi

why does the undertone of this heavily imply that you are the real vig

I thought dudds point was a good one. The only reason that the vig wouldnt shoot fake claiming vcd is if he thought that vcd was a villa fakin ghte claim. And it is unlikely that vcd would fake there as a villa. Unless someone counters or another vig turns up dead, then we have to assme that vcd is the vig.

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07-03-2009 , 02:37 PM

#611

VayaConDios

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Originally Posted by m1ke

one last thing actually:

Vaya are you taking suggestions for your NK?

Yeah. I won't be around most of today, but if I get back by EOD I'll announce who I'm going to NK

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07-03-2009 , 02:47 PM

#612

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having skimmed d1

The Icon

I have stuff to do now, but I'll be back.

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07-03-2009 , 02:49 PM

#613

BrownEyedGirl

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Originally Posted by Zurvan

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Originally Posted by ZomgHax

He's posting in the slow game fwiw.

I can agree with this.

Gtpitch

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07-03-2009 , 02:52 PM

#614

AriesRam

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I dont see a wolf coming in then and not knowing that it was amost night. That seems like a villager mistake. And his tone is that of a villa trying to save a claimant.

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07-03-2009 , 02:57 PM

#615

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I might have reversed my BEG peek fwiw

pitch wagon is super shady

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07-03-2009 , 03:00 PM

#616

AriesRam

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Originally Posted by Dudd

And I think it should be obvious that if VCD isn't Hiller, the real Hiller should kill someone other than GT1T so that we can instalynch him tomorrow.

I misread this the first time through. Dudds starting point in this post is wrong.

Assuming vcd is lying here, the common first thought is that vcd is a wolf. (and I know it is possible that vcd would do this aas a villa, but highly unlikely, see my prevous post). And that the real vig should shoot vcd. But Dudd wants the real vig to shoot someone else to prove that vcd is lying. This sounds like dudd already knows that vcd is villa, and is trying to throw out "helpful" advice.

Vote Dudd.

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07-03-2009 , 03:01 PM

#617

coordi

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yea i completely disagree with this pitch wagon as i have stated that i felt he was being sincere bout aao

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07-03-2009 , 03:03 PM

#618

coordi

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i wanted to quote some dudd posts and make a sick read but i really cant find anything specific on why i htink hes wofly, but i sure do think that.

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07-03-2009 , 03:04 PM

#619

ZomgHax

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Originally Posted by well named

What's biggerboat done. Excessive fluffiness?

The opposite, which is what worries me.

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07-03-2009 , 03:06 PM

#620

ZomgHax

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Although he did say he was pretty peeved over his mis-lynch in PB, so he may be making a conscious effort to not post a lot of fluff.

So there is that.

Although, he'd be making that same effort as a wolf most likely.

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07-03-2009 , 03:11 PM

#621

soah

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[3] biggerboat --- coordi
[_] bitchibee ---
[1] browneyedgirl --- gtpitch
[1] coordi --- bigger
[_] digger --- dustin
[1] dudd ---
[3] dustin --- bigger
[_] elliot ---
[_] fcbl --- mcavoy
[3] gtpitch ---
[_] jennifer
[_] luckay ---
[_] m1ke --- gtpitch
[1] mcavoy ---
[_] myrrth (wn) --- icon
[_] onthinice --- dustin
[_] scrubbo (aries) --- dudd
[_] sixfour --- beg
[1] the icon ---
[_] vaya --- dustin
[_] zomghax --- bigger
[_] zurvan --- gtpitch

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07-03-2009 , 03:11 PM

#622

Dudd

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Originally Posted by AriesRam

This is the first game I've ever played with a vigilante, this was just an honest mistake.

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07-03-2009 , 03:12 PM

#623

DustinG

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biggerboat just feels like a wolf

a little fluff, some non-fluff

it doesn't matter. everyone is allowed to post fluff and most wolves probably post the right % of fluff anyways

its the general wolfiness that he should be voted for

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07-03-2009 , 03:14 PM

#624

BrownEyedGirl

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Originally Posted by well named

I might have reversed my BEG peek fwiw

pitch wagon is super shady

Then explain to me why he would post, leave, and then post in other forums but not here. I call that lurking. What do you call it? Please "unstick" me, if I'm not thinking clearly again.

I also like what Aries is saying about Dudd, about his advice to VCD.

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07-03-2009 , 03:18 PM

#625

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lurking isn't really inherently wolfy, and there's also nothing really that wolfy about his votes last night or his explanation this morning. I guess I can kind of understand the logic behind zurvan's argument, but it also bothers me that it seems like the kind of case you arrive at reasoning backwards (start by assuming gtpitch=wolf and then interpret along those lines) than frontwards.

Also it seems like a distraction from a more straightforward idea about resolving the way the wagons went after the claim (i.e resolving icon)

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