I think Aries and JG might both be villas here.

aries yes

jury definitely still out on jg

List of players for reference

[_] bitchibee --- jg
[_] browneyedgirl --- icon
[_] coordi --- icon
[_] dustin --- zurvan
[_] fcbl --- zurvan
[_] gtpitch --- zurvan
[2] jennifer --- icon
[_] m1ke --- icon
[_] myrrth (wn) --- icon
[_] onthinice --- 64
[_] scrubbo (aries) --- icon
[1] sixfour --- icon
[_] zomghax --- icon
[4] zurvan --- icon

So if Dustin is seer and clears m1ke, beg and gtpitch
that leaves:
Aries
Bitchi
Coordi
fcbl
jg
OTI
64
WN
Zomg
Zurvan

Based off of Bigger interactions + d1 voting I think Zomg and coordi are villas
I know i'm a villa

That leaves:
Aries
Bitchi
fcbl
OTI
64
WN
Zurvan

I guess 64 could also be there, but I thought OTI was more likely to be wolf than 64, so that's why I took him off my list of 6

so we have to find 5 wolves out of 7 in a list of:

Aries
Bitchi
fcbl
OTI
64
WN
Zurvan

I have no clue. I wouldn't have been particularly inclined to lynch you ahead of zurvan today except that you are being pretty wolfy now.

The obvious retort here is something about the unreliability of self-confessed "I would never do that as a wolf!" arguments.

And before you say "You said the same thing about you fps'ing the kill!" that's not really true. I'm not saying that I am incapable of making that kill as a wolf. What I think is wolfy is that I don't see any villagery thought process that would lead to you assuming by 'process of elimination' that one of FCBL/WN must be a wolf because of it.

if you think the village should make a list of "potential wolves" and leave you off it just because you "know" you're a villager than you're smoking crack :P

Seer hunt ldo. 90% hunt/maybe 10% fps.

I played with jg in the ssnl crossover game, the way luckay played, especially yesterday was exactly how he played seer in that game. If jg/aries were wolves, what do you think they would think about luckay pinning them? jg having only recently started posting, and aries just subbing in with most people considering him village.

And if I were a wolf, I wouldn't think Dusting is a lock to be seer. even if BEG/Pitch were both villas, its weird firstly that he would peek BEG given BEG reputation and Dusting's concieted (whether true or not) belief in his soul reading abilities. And secondly having one dead villa and one dead wolf which means it could very well be fake.

If they are wolves put yourself in their shoes - Lucakay pinned two wolves, Dusting has two villagers; one being reportedly the easiest person to read on the face on the earth. who do you kill?

The only problem with the theory and why maybe 10% fps is that luckay left too many peeks.

Take 64, WN, and FCBL off that list

and probably Aries too

so left is Bitchi, OTI, Zurvan, yourself

dustin jg is a wolf, aries is one too 99% of the time. a half fps kill is just senseless

so you think I should have myself on a wolf list if I'm a villager? This sounds brilliant

jg I don't think oti/64 are capable of pulling that thunderdome **** as w/w

they might have thought luckay was fpsing with a peek though

Wolves have 2 or 3 mislynches left...fpsing the LL nk implicates both Aries and I. If we both are villagers, which is kinda what I'm leaning towards right now, then wolves will either win or be left with 1 needed mislynch.

Well, We can start with

Zurvan

and see where it goes from there.

I realize how self-serving this is going to sound, but this fps might make sense if JG is wolf. (Assuming JG is wolf for this, and he and I were the wagons today). Assuming JG gets lynched today: Then everyone will say "obv LL was on to something, lets lynch AR the next day." Assuming I get lynched, the reaction will be "OMG fps, it looks like the wovles were trying to set up two villas". Either way they get a mislynch, with the possibility of giving JG villa points.

You are on wolf overload. There are only 4 left.

wat?

jg can survive a lynch hun?

A half fps kill could make complete sense

If one of them is a wolf and the other a villager:
Village lynches wolf first, wolves maybe get a mislynch
Village lynches villager first, wolves maybe get a cleared wolf

OK, so it's not likely, but at least possible

This is another wolfy thing about JG's argument. It seems to me that anyone can see that the night kill has something to say about Zurvan, bitchibee, aries, and JG. The reason is that zurvan and bitchibee were on dustin's lynch list, and given that there has been a certaina mount of heat for all of them, if dustin dies seer last night it is likely that they would have continued to get heat today, especially zurvan. So one level of interpretation is that the night kill was a longshot effort to distract attention from them.

JG and Aries are obviously the other more basic level, where the kill was a straight seer hunt where one of those is a wolf.

Now JG did vote for zurvan, which makes sense for him as a villager, if he was reasoning through the levels (I'm a villager, therefore it must be the other interpretation is correct), but he doesn't focus on zurvan, that vote is more of an afterthought. The post is about me and FCBL supposedly being implicated by the night kill, which makes no sense.

JG asked what incentive he would have to make that kill and draw attention to himself. Well, here's another level. Let's say zurvan and JG are both wolves, and lets say there is no particularly clear wolf. In this case the best reason for FPS'ing the kill is that perhaps it will allow _some_ wolf to get clear, because it looks quite strongly that if they just take the usual path they are all going to be on the block, and there's not enough unclear villagers to win. FPS'ing the kill may guarantee that some wolf gets lynched today, but if they can use it to cast suspicion on some other villagers or partially clear a wolf, it might be the only chance.

Obviously that story depends on a lot of assumptions, but everything about JG's post fits. The zurvan vote is bussing, but he's not trying too hard. Instead by going after me and FCBL he is trying to cast suspicion on some villagers.

oh nvm, there goes my reading comprehension again

LL always (well, 3 straight games) thinks I am a wolf. He is always wrong. That is not really a secret, at least to anyone who has played recently.

And this whole theory rests on the belief that dustin is not seer. Granted, he is not dead yet, but I think there is almost no chance that the "real seer" has not countered yet.

Dead villagers still win with the village.

You are making a list with the intention of saying we should lynch from this list and only this list until the game is over. That's the point of the list. Sometimes even as a villager you have to recognize that unless you manage to do something pretty cool you almost have to be lynched. I've been in that spot a few times. In those cases if I'm making a list like that I pretty much always put myself on it, because that's what the list is for. If you were just making a "this is who I think the wolves are" list than I would excuse you.

That said I don't think leaving yourself off it is too wolfy, not everyone thinks this way, but it is wrong.

no it relies on the fact that the wolves thought luckay didn't counter. And what incentive did he have to counter?

you're just making **** up WN...I've been on Zurvan's ass since yesterday...he's done nothing to change my opinion of him. He said yesterday that he looks at interactions once wolves die, yet he never made a post about bigger even after he was "done work" and he hasn't done a read of icon either. He's FOS and isn't helping village at all