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07-03-2009 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Yeah, with, like, different roles and stuff.
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Originally Posted by DustinG
biggerboat,

if I was a villager what kind of posts do you think I should be making right now?
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
did u say IF. . . Dusting
OK, so here's the posts that BEG went crazy about yesterday.

Dustin's response here was not only appropriate, it was the only gramattically correct one. He's talking to Bigger about how Bigger thinks he would be acting as a villager.

If you look at it in context, that post isn't suspicious at all. Based on my recent experience with BEG, I know she's well aware of her meta, and part of that is her bulldog like attitude when she finds a suspect, and for noticing little things in posts. This reeks of finding something that she thinks fits her image and riding it to the exclusion of everything else. She gets to act like her perception of her villager game, AND she can focus on one person to avoid potentially spewing. She did go after dmk for being arrogant (?), but really just focussed on those two all day.

I think it's unlikely she chases a wolf partner like this, although I suppose it's possible. Dustin gets on my provisional villager list

Expanded wolf list:
gtpitch
coordi
BEG

Expanded villager list
Icon
Dustin

BEG
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07-03-2009 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Zurvan
This sequence from pitch is weird. There's a 5 minute spread from the first post to the last. Switching from icon -> aao isn't that big of a deal; he was reacting to the claim, which is fine. But he took the time to say "aao turns up villa a lot of times here" less than a minute before switching. Again, it's not the switch that's the problem; it's taking the time to point out that aao is likely a villager and THEN switching. There's no point to defending aao there, unless he's trying to get credit.
Kind of had a feeling last night I would have some explaining to do. Here is what happened in my thought process last night.

1) I totally spaced and didn't realize night was in like 10 min and I was just starting to read everything I missed. So I was basically going into this clueless.

2) I saw the vote count and saw VCD's claim. So I had to go with one of the other lead wagons.

3) At the time of the last vote count icon was in 2nd and AAO was 3rd in votes. So I figured the easiest way to save VCD would be to make more icon votes happen. I had read the first 150 posts or so of the thread and aao came off the same as he did last game.

4) I made that post about aao (not to look innocent) but as a general comment. I was hoping that that + the vote counts and needing to save VCD would push people to icon.

5) A few minutes before night there was a huge switch away from icon to aao. There were no recent vote counts but I knew that with all those switches there was no way that icon was getting lynched.

6) As I said before I was happy with aao\icon to save VCD. Since the last count wasn't that recent I had to make a vote to ensure that VCD was safe.

End of my story.
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07-03-2009 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
But I think gt is evil every game so it doesn't carry much weight.
Well unless you're a wolf I always think your evil too so we're even
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07-03-2009 , 09:22 AM


zurvan

just because
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07-03-2009 , 09:25 AM
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4) I made that post about aao (not to look innocent) but as a general comment. I was hoping that that + the vote counts and needing to save VCD would push people to icon.
You had to know that post wouldn't help. It was less than a minute to night. As far as I can tell, you posted that, then as soon as possible voted aao.

Again, I have no problem with you choosing to vote aao over icon, or the late switch. It's the fact that you felt the need to defend aao first which strikes me as off.
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07-03-2009 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Zurvan
You had to know that post wouldn't help. It was less than a minute to night. As far as I can tell, you posted that, then as soon as possible voted aao.

Again, I have no problem with you choosing to vote aao over icon, or the late switch. It's the fact that you felt the need to defend aao first which strikes me as off.
Again it wasn't really a defense just a statement. Everything was happening very fast and there were a ton of people around. I didn't want to see aao die but after I made that post I realized how little time there was. Had to vote him. After I saw the vote count obv I could've just stayed on icon and nothing would've mattered but I had to make sure the vig stayed safe.

I'm pretty sure there are more important things to discuss right now though don't you? I mean if you really want to lynch me then that's fine. I'm vanilla and you won't really gain much about icon or anyone else for that matter.

But lets talk about why dmk is dead and who VCD should kill tonight k?
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07-03-2009 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
Any players who have not posted yet within the next several hours will be replaced.
i wish to be subbed out if you have available subs. otherwise i'll try to put in an effort
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07-03-2009 , 09:35 AM
Vaya: wat? Looking to go 2/2?

GT: I'd rather lynch BEG today than you, barely, but you're on the list
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07-03-2009 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
On that note, I promise the villa that BEG and 64 are villagers. This is 100% a tone read and not a seer peek.
qft
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07-03-2009 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gtpitch

But lets talk about why dmk is dead and who VCD should kill tonight k?
From a quick re-read of DMK, his reads were basically:

Wolf = BEG

Villager = AAO

Neither really looked like peeks.

So I guess we could assume that wolves just wanted to get rid of him. Of course, there could be some merit to his reads. i.e. wolves saw he had some decent reads and decided he was too dangerous to keep alive.
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07-03-2009 , 09:39 AM
AriesRam has replaced Scrubbo.
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07-03-2009 , 09:40 AM
Oh hi Aries.
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07-03-2009 , 09:41 AM
@ Vaya:

As our one presumably cleared villa, it would be nice to hear more then "just because"
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07-03-2009 , 09:43 AM
beg would be a decent place to start
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07-03-2009 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ZomgHax
@ Vaya:

As our one presumably cleared villa, it would be nice to hear more then "just because"
I guess one of two if we believe OTI.
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07-03-2009 , 09:50 AM
Village team
Zomghax
Biggerboat

Wolf Team
Dusting
Mcavoy

Since I am David Levinson Im going to mix my reads w/ my peeks so I will force you to lynch my wolves.

DustinG
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07-03-2009 , 09:52 AM
Mac;

What changed?

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Is the rand broken or has BEG been randed evil in like 3 of 4 games now?
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Originally Posted by McAvoy

On that note, I promise the villa that BEG and 64 are villagers. This is 100% a tone read and not a seer peek.
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07-03-2009 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ZomgHax
Mac;

What changed?
Hes a wolf.

End of story
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07-03-2009 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Zurvan
Vaya: wat? Looking to go 2/2?

GT: I'd rather lynch BEG today than you, barely, but you're on the list
Zurvan, why didn't you work this hard yesterday, were you still hungover or something?

I agree that gtpitch's eod behavior does look suspicious, but from his posts today - and yes digger this is a soul read - gtpitch is a villager ldo, so get off of him.

Lynching BEG because of some "leveling" game you think shes playing based on metagame is just fancy thinking on a huge level. Lets lynch the people who've been most wolfy thus far.

JG/Cordi/McAvoy.
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07-03-2009 , 10:04 AM
[qutoe]Zurvan, why didn't you work this hard yesterday, were you still hungover or something?
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Cuz yesterday was day 1 and there was nothing to talk about? What kind of question is that?

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Lynching BEG because of some "leveling" game you think shes playing based on metagame is just fancy thinking on a huge level. Lets lynch the people who've been most wolfy thus far.
que?

It's not a levelling game she's playing. Wolves try to act like villagers. You catch wolves by finding when they do it badly. She's trying to act like her villager game. And she's doing it badly, because she's nitpicking something that means nothing, and won't let it go, when any reasonable person would read the context and say "OK, that makes sense to say, and has no relationship to his role"
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07-03-2009 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
Zurvan, why didn't you work this hard yesterday, were you still hungover or something?

I agree that gtpitch's eod behavior does look suspicious, but from his posts today - and yes digger this is a soul read - gtpitch is a villager ldo, so get off of him.

Lynching BEG because of some "leveling" game you think shes playing based on metagame is just fancy thinking on a huge level. Lets lynch the people who've been most wolfy thus far.

JG/Cordi/McAvoy.
People continuously refered to the fact that she wasn't her normal aggressive villa self on the way to lynching her as a wolf in her last game. Its not a stretch at all to think that if she got randed wolf again she would make a concious effort to come off more aggressive.
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07-03-2009 , 10:06 AM
srsly, wtf at all my x-posts!
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07-03-2009 , 10:08 AM
I am with Bitchi

If you expect someone to act a certain way as a villager and they act it the easiest explanation is that they are a villager.

Not that they are pretending to be one.

Combine that with the fact it is very hard to plug all of the holes in your wolf game in 1 game and it should be fairly easy to tell if BEG is actually a wolf this game.
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07-03-2009 , 10:11 AM
My secret wolf = mcavoy.
I have never seen such a tidy day one from him.

McAvoy
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07-03-2009 , 10:11 AM
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If you expect someone to act a certain way as a villager and they act it the easiest explanation is that they are a villager.
Sure, if she was acting like a villager, I'd be with you. But it's not genuine.
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