i love how I was the only one that even thought about a second wagon yesterday. I mean i had no clue A_R's protection would have worked. Or what in the hell chances of him picking 11t. But i really don't think primo would mind killing for us again? I mean why the hell wouldn't he? He is dead for sure tonight from the wolves. They have no more protection. We probably gain a ton of information by reviewing Chicagory's and 11t's posts today. Let primo kill 11t tonight. And we need to find a good wagon today. pretty interesting move by the wolves. I was seriously like wtf just happened.

in all honesty, if we find a good wagon and it becomes true, primo kills 11t tonight. and we find a good wagon tomorrow. Game could be over at EoD tomorrow. Changes of that our pretty slim but its possible. there are 12 people left with two unknown wolves, a lock for wolf, and a SK. i really don't think we can afford to not find a good wagon besides 11t today. If we lynch him we do not gain anymore information then we already have or could find. and we take a huge risk of the two remaining wolves just knocking us off one by one. also does anybody have any theories as to why the wolves killed AoN last night. And why the hell gtpitch was not killed instead? Anybody that is not concerned with gtpitch right now as much as me is pretty stupid in my opinion. He should have been dead a couple nights ago. He is the only villager making decisions. The wolves take a huge risk by keeping him a live. So it makes no sense what so ever to keep him around.

Why would the wolves kill me last night?

They HAVE to kill cleared villagers. They can't start killing people that aren't peeked. If they do - they lose. Its that simple

true, i haven't played this game before. I may be way off base. But I'm just suspicious. If I am wrong, then I will apologize after the game lol. you're reasoning does have some merit it to it. but do you agree we need a second wagon? barring we here from primo and he is good for another kill?

Yea a second wagon is not bad. loldonkbets is a good wagon.

The problem the wolves have is so many cleared villagers.

Like once we get to end game if there are 2 cleared villagers left then the wolf is pretty obvious.

so the AoN kill makes perfect sense because he was a cleared villager. what kind of sense does it make for chicago to have sacrificed himself to let 11t live for one more day?

Peeked Villagers
GoofyBaller
kenk
Taikogod - Not peeked but claimed village vig with no counter

Claim SK no counterclaim
PrimodialAA

Peeked wolf
11t


Those above are all of our confirmed and known roles. Expect all of those people to die before anyone else. The below list is the rest of the players with my reads with them:

Lean Villa
Gtpitch - ldo
Pokurz
Koby - Only slightly. Could be a wolf wild card

Lean wolf
itami19
jr428 - very slightly. Could definitely be villa here too
Loldonkbets
Semper fidileous

It probably wasn't to let 11t live for one more day.

It was to ensure the death of the seer. What that tells me:

The angel leveled them the day before. They didn't try to kill filthyvermin assuming that he'd be protected and he wasn't. So the angel protected whoever they tried to kill - Probably AoN.

So chiry outted himself to ensure that the village gets no more peeks.

Jr's post today makes me think he is villa, I would have him be leaning more towards villa then wolf, and I don't see why koby is leaning towards villa.

Those 2 are pretty much interchangable for me. I think koby is more like the villa then jr from the last time I read them over.

Lets get this party started:

[vote: semper fidelis]

what happened 2 days ago? no kills? that day 11t was going to lynch by survived... i though all the angels were dead at that point, filthyvermin ended up dying by a vote of chicagory...


also

also to primo for helping us out.


vote: semper fidelis.

this. such @!)+$*!@)+$ing epic fail, and we didnt even consider it

nah, the order of stuff at night is like


role blocks, protects, peeks, kills

so before A_R got killed he put protect on 11t, which is why we're 1@$+*!@ing stupid to not have had 2 balanced trains yesterday, fml

even if they didnt have 24h chat, they half 'wolf chat' at night time, and A_R was alive until the beginning of the next day, when the kill occurred, so they planned it all then

i tried to bring up that point, but when i was bringing it up. I really had no clue that A_R protection would still work when he got killed that night. If the wolves wouldn't have killed the seer last night, I would have been dead cuz filthy voted for me for some reason.

I <3 second trains, i'll go semper fi for the moment, I actually think a semper fi / LOLDONKBETZ isnt a bad set of trains, and a NK to settle it and we lynch 11t after. I mean this could be the last NK we get, so using it to settle a reasonable train may be maxEV

so that said, vote LOLDONKBETZ

well there is definitely no lynch protection anymore. so we don't need a second train for the lynch. but i kinda like your idea of waiting to kill 11t. I mean his confirmed wolf. The faster we find the others, the easier our game is. The only problem with this is the fact that if we are wrong with our lynch or NK, we are one or two villagers down, and leaving a wolf in the game. So the wolves are even one step closer to victory. All they have to do is match the number of villagers in the game. So leaving a wolf in the game might not be as smart as it seems. It also gives them another vote for the lynch tomorrow.

2 trains for lynch gives u more tells, as to who is pushing what train, you learn way more from it, and having a vig or SK to settle the train (you learn both identities) you get max info, it's def. the right thing to do

also they absolutely wont have match you in #s, so having a wolf in-game for voting for lynch isnt a big deal, there is still more villas, so it doesnt matter

Lol wait, what?

If you think I'm a wolf you're a god damn ******. Especially considering I've voted your pick every single time? I'm not sure what the tactical aspect of this horribly boring game is but I don't think lynching your own villagers is the smartest thing with wolfs still remaining. You're wasting a kill/votes even bothering to go for me.

true, i didnt think about that. so who are the two trains? semper and ?

I have a feeling loldonkbets is telling the truth, i think he is just a uninterested villager who really doesn't care about the game. maybe we should find a stronger second wagon.