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Old 07-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #101
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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How can anyone want to keep this jackoff. He sucks as a poster and player, makes games less fun for everyone, ignores all the rules, and shows no desire to improve.

The reason there are mods is to take out the trash. The guy is an afterbirth stain on the fabric of pog.
I don't think he's remotely as bad as you're painting him.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #102
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he's currently banned and currently signed up in a game as a gimmick
His ban ended July 3rd, so no, he is not currently banned.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #103
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

*grunch*

magic has been frustrating for me to play with. My read is he wanted to help the team but bad stuff happened, vs. intentionally trying to kill the game.

He doesn't have a good sense for how his words or actions affect others. He lacks empathy.

I think he knows silman IRL? A mod PM to Silman for background and depth could be productive.

Motivation: He probably thought magic is unfairly tagged for past transgressions and a new account would help. But there really is a problem with his current fit.

This is not like a cheating scandal where auto-perma makes sense. My preliminary thought is 6 months without werewolf*. If he wants to sheep, other games, pub, etc., that could work fine. If he sticks around then some adjustment will have taken place, and I would try again playing werewolf with him.

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* I don't know the actual official list of good/bad.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #104
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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The only game he ruined was WSOWW that I know of, other then that he's been great in every game I've ever been in/seen with him.

to your

No
he conceded a game his teammate was gonna win at f3 without massive village angleshooting lol

In his concession he said something about liking quitting when he feel he might not win.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #105
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

shipitup you tried to selfban for a year and are back 2 months later trolling this thread

please
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:24 AM   #106
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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except for all of the games where he just quits or disappears in the middle?
how many of the games he's played has this happened in?

some raw data would be nice
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:24 AM   #107
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he conceded a game his teammate was gonna win at f3 without massive village angleshooting lol

In his concession he said something about liking quitting when he feel he might not win.
Can you link to this?
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:24 AM   #108
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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Vicious trolls will be viciously punished in this thread.

WW court is what the people wanted.
For next time only let people who are taking it seriously post in it imo. POG Court is srs bsnss
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:24 AM   #109
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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*grunch*

magic has been frustrating for me to play with. My read is he wanted to help the team but bad stuff happened, vs. trying to kill the game.

He doesn't have a good sense for how his words or actions affect others. He lacks empathy.

I think he knows silman IRL? A mod PM to Silman for background and depth could be productive.

Motivation: He probably thought magic is unfairly tagged for past transgressions and a new account would help. But there really is a problem with his current fit.

This is not like a cheating scandal where auto-perma makes sense. My preliminary thought is 6 months without werewolf*. If he wants to sheep, other games, pub, etc., that could work fine. If he sticks around then some adjustment will have taken place, and I would try again playing werewolf with him.

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* I don't know the actual official list of good/bad.
I like this post a lot.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:25 AM   #110
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

i propose we put magic on probation, and not allow unouted gimmicks at all.

if that happens, i may jizz my pants
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shipitup you tried to selfban for a year and are back 2 months later trolling this thread

please
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:25 AM   #112
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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he conceded a game his teammate was gonna win at f3 without massive village angleshooting lol

In his concession he said something about liking quitting when he feel he might not win.
He was already punished for this.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:25 AM   #113
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

I honestly dont care what happens to him. but bloodshed is never a bad thing
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:25 AM   #114
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

so... ye defenders of magic:

if he comes here and rages, defends himself, does not rend his clothes and sit in ashes and sackcloth, will you snap-call a perma ban? let's just settle this first, since there's a >0% this happens, and i don't want to leave any backpedaling room if this happens.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:26 AM   #115
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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He was already punished for this.
If we can provide evidence to all of these things that Felix and Krazy are saying then a steeper punishment might be in order if we get absolute 100% confirmation that magic and numbers guy are the same person.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:26 AM   #116
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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where's the apology to Systolic?
You're right.

Systo, I'm sorry for accusing you of being MagicGazz. I didn't accuse you of cheating fwiw, thats not what happened in our game. But he was a tool in postgame. I apologize.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:26 AM   #117
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

I'm off to bed

Felix, keep saying what I'm thinking
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:26 AM   #118
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

seriously in the one or two games i played with magic gazz, the games were more fun because he was in them.

i understand not everyone feels this way, but fwiw that's how his participation has effected me
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:26 AM   #119
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

someone not emotionally invested in this: what did numbers guy actually do?

(as concise as possible, thx)
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:27 AM   #120
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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Can you link to this?
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More people should listen to this guy as he has been playing really well this game.


He is right about how the wolves cant really win though.

I will save you guys some time.

Im a wolf.
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lol, people claim wolf all the time and people clear them for it, its the dumbest thing ever.

Im for real though.

I could probably drag it out for about a week and avoid being lynched but after that much time I think it will be obvious and it just doesnt feel right to waste that much time of mine and other peoples.

I think had Jim not been busy he would have lived a lot longer.

Shanks making 0 posts that day was pretty unfortunate and I dont blame him for that as he is a Kiwi and it was Saturday so he was probably getting drunk and watching rugby, if you look at that day Me and Silman didnt post either, some things are more important than werewolf.

Im glad nofear has self banned as he basically said in wolfchat that he didnt care and was just gonna post ponies. I hope when he comes back he goes back to more of his old style and stops with the ponies.

The vig didnt even make it to wolfchat and was so lame getting killed that early.

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Just me for now.

I assume the rest of them will realise how unlikley getting a win is in this set up though.

Its a shame we didnt get a slightly better wolf team as there has been so much v/v violence I think we could have used that to our advantage.
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They should but I dont know if they will and im not gonna out them just incase they want to play it out.

I just think my time is worth more than that. I though about subbing out but its not fair to anyone to make them join this game 8,000 posts in and try to be a convincing villager.
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Yeah the timezone thing is a pain because Friday there is Saturday here so im almost never around for that game day.

I tried but just couldnt keep up with the thread enough to really try and push anyone.

It was a shame Vagos had such balls though, I thought by voting Jim yesterday it would look good as his wagon would never take off and he would delay it some more when he came back to the thread and then I could be on his wagon again and I would look super clear.

wp vagos.

At least Aksdal thought I was a villager. Now he can only say he reads me 99.99% accurate
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I think they should conceed because with the ammount of mislynches left there is almost 0% chance the village fails that hard.

Its nothing to do with peoples current reads, I wouldnt out my team like that.



LOL you must think im an idiot. I said me, shanks and silman because we all live in NZ, so we probably did not post for the same reason.
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I dont think that why. Look at the wolves the village managed to get. If you take away Jim the others were basically claiming wolf like I am.



I wouldnt mind really if the posts were kept down a bit and if we hadnt lost the vig so fast.
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No just have better things to do with my time than spend a week on a game I cant win.

When playing a game and you have no chance of ever winning I always think its best to just give up, start a new game and try and win that.
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

i wouldnt mind if he got put on probation or whatever. i dont think he will change his attitude ever

i believe one game he was a villager and being pushed a lot and tilting

and he started a thread asking for new sites to play on
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I will give credit to ShipItUp's willingness to stand up for the little guy in this situation, even though he is wrong (siu).
He's seriously never been that much of a problem to me, people make mistakes. The only thing banning him is going to do is make it so we start banning anyone who makes mistakes.
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Pretrial

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You're right.

Systo, I'm sorry for accusing you of being MagicGazz. I didn't accuse you of cheating fwiw, thats not what happened in our game. But he was a tool in postgame. I apologize.
Its okay.

We brought out a potentially bigger issue as a result, so its fine. No hard feelings.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:27 AM   #124
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so... ye defenders of magic:

if he comes here and rages, defends himself, does not rend his clothes and sit in ashes and sackcloth, will you snap-call a perma ban? let's just settle this first, since there's a >0% this happens, and i don't want to leave any backpedaling room if this happens.
No.

I think a permaban is too harsh.

I think six months sounds fine as the upper bounds of the punishment, contrition or no.
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what about it

my suspension is over today for that by the way

and what about it
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