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Old 07-12-2012, 11:53 AM   #476
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

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Any gimmicks that exhibit his MO I'm sure will be under scrutiny, and a quick IP check would result in the punishment it deserves. I'm pretty sure the forum mods would deal more harshly with him if he is found deliberately circumventing attempts to prohibit him from playing.

Remember, he didn't use the numbers account to play while serving his suspension, so why has he given us any reason to believe he would deliberately attempt to play a game where he wasn't welcome.
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This is what I hate about you guys. You make incorrect statements like these just because they don't 100% fit what is occurring in this very specific case.

Sure, he hasn't done it yet. But have you read what he has done on POG? It's clear his pattern of behavior thus far is of a person who doesn't give a **** in the moment about what anyone else thinks- I see no reason why he WOULDN'T attempt to play in a game in which he wasn't welcome.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:54 AM   #477
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I see no reason why he WOULDN'T attempt to play in a game in which he wasn't welcome.
This isn't Minority Report, he hasn't done that.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:56 AM   #478
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Please don't behave like this when you get a job.
As stubborn as many of my mindsets may sound, I never let em get me into trouble either personally or professionally. My life as a whole is very drama free, because I know the necessary steps to take to avoid falling into dramatic situations.

FWIW if I worked a job that I highly valued, and my boss got upset over something very quirky and demanded an apology, I would do so and avoid similar action in the future. I'm not the type of person who's going to refuse to swallow my pride when it's obviously +EV for me to do so.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:58 AM   #479
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

Sigh

I give up lol
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:58 AM   #480
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but what if the game mod for that last game didnt want magic?

or hifi is modding a game and numbers signed up; what if she didnt want magic to play?
What if Magic plays as the gimmick and behaves himself.

Hifi never knows or finds out.

Who does it really hurt?
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:59 AM   #481
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Has he used the little brother defense yet?
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:00 PM   #482
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What if Magic plays as the gimmick and behaves himself.

Hifi never knows or finds out.

Who does it really hurt?
so basically, anyone who gets banned should make up gimmicks and circumvent the ban?
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:01 PM   #483
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

ruling incoming...

I'm probably going to leave this thread open post-ruling for a while just because we might as well continue the gimmick discussion.

I am willing to consider entirely banning un-outed gimmicks if that is what everyone can agree on

At the very least I think a new rule is going to exist that you must out gimmicks to forum mods in the case of any kinds of rule issues coming up, and you must out gimmicks to game mods on request
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:03 PM   #484
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i wouldnt mind if he got put on probation or whatever. i dont think he will change his attitude ever

i believe one game he was a villager and being pushed a lot and tilting

and he started a thread asking for new sites to play on
Never played with him

Read to this point

permaban please
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:03 PM   #485
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so basically, anyone who gets banned should make up gimmicks and circumvent the ban?
what are you even talking about, didn't everyone deny that MG has done this? he didn't lie to the mods, he was punished, he ate his punishment. let's move on?
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:03 PM   #486
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This isn't Minority Report, he hasn't done that.
Nope, the ball is rolling as we speak.

Sound the alarm, get the teams ready and helicopters in the air.

We can arrest him before it actually happens.

Thanks bsball, you averted certain anarchy.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:06 PM   #487
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Nope, the ball is rolling as we speak.

Sound the alarm, get the teams ready and helicopters in the air.

We can arrest him before it actually happens.

Thanks bsball, you averted certain anarchy.
He has already done enough to warrant a permaban in many people's minds.

Regardless of whether or not he has actually pretended to be a gimmick and lied to the mod, it is absolutely clear to me that he would and probably will do it again if the opportunity/necessity arises.

I am not trying to ban him because of his future crimes.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:06 PM   #488
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

I'm amazed more game mods don't ban gimmicks.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:07 PM   #489
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so basically, anyone who gets banned should make up gimmicks and circumvent the ban?
The point is he didn't play on a gimmick account while his ban was in effect.

He has made some mistakes, but has also been punished for them.

Playing on a gimmick while under suspension should be a bannable offense, but until that happens it's not worth discussing.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:08 PM   #490
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

wtf is the problem with gimmicks? i've played in tons of games with them and never had a problem
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:11 PM   #491
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He has already done enough to warrant a permaban in many people's minds...
lol

if game mods don't want him in their games, then w/e

but a permaban or some kind of forum exile? meh, leave it for the real mods...

(i assume they'll be more rational than the kangaroo court of public opinion here)
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:15 PM   #492
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

lol @ kangaroo court

jury of your peers imo
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:21 PM   #493
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

I don't really understand the "he has made mistakes, but he's been punished for them" thing fwiw.

As far as I know, he's only been formally "punished" once, and he's been given a fair bit of lenience in other situations.

And I don't see how a punishment should wipe that transgression off the record when considering future rulings either.

*shrug*
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:23 PM   #494
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

Glad POG wasn't this serious when I had my Wangzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fiasco
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:24 PM   #495
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He has already done enough to warrant a permaban in many people's minds.

Regardless of whether or not he has actually pretended to be a gimmick and lied to the mod, it is absolutely clear to me that he would and probably will do it again if the opportunity/necessity arises.

I am not trying to ban him because of his future crimes.
My point simply is that this particular thread is redundant.

He has done some very thoughtless self centered things while playing that have affected others who put in a lot of time and effort.

The mods, who are the ultimate arbiter in these circumstances, have dispensed a punishment that he has already finished serving.

New information has come to light that Magic is the numbers Guy that broke WSOWW by not posting at f5.

CPHoya levied his judgement against him for that offense, by banning him from future WSOWW games for some period of time ( I forgot how long).

It should be up to mods discretion if he plays in any future games of theirs, imo.

I personally will think twice before playing a game that he is involved with, I would hate for him to bail midgame. However, I don't think he should be given any additional punishment.

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Old 07-12-2012, 12:24 PM   #496
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Glad POG wasn't this serious when I had my Wangzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fiasco
I move to ban wangzzzzzzzzzzz
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:25 PM   #497
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I move to ban wangzzzzzzzzzzz
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:25 PM   #498
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Re: WW Court Version 1 - The Deliberations

Infractions aside, magic is perhaps the least enjoyable player to play with. Hes the only player that has detracted from my experience in every game I've played with him in. I'm a pretty tolerant guy, but I routinely skip/gloss over his posts because I know it's just not worth it
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:25 PM   #499
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I swear a thread was made about the Dr. Seuss game after the fact, but for the life of me I can't find it.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:26 PM   #500
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For the record, my decision would be:
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