WW Court Version 1 - The Verdict - Page 14 - Puzzles and Other Games Forum

ok ok after reading more I have a

Ruling:
This is stupid and solves nothing as its deteriorated into NO YOU and rehashing the same things over and over.

Let him talk to the mods and let them make their own decision, you know, with a personal conversation instead of out in the open where people just pile on

If you run a game and worry about it being broken, dont let him enter. You're well within your right.

adjourned.

This seems completely fair and the best way to handle this.

07-12-2012 , 01:20 AM

#327

BirdieLongSocks

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

I disagree,

Look at willi for example. He broke several games egregiously when he first started. People like him a lot now. Why? Because he was genuinely VERY SORRY, wanted to understand what he did wrong, wanted to improve, wanted to be part of the group.

Magic does none of that. He just tells everyone to piss off and now he's getting loner credit? He did that to himself. POG is an open friendly community, if the group as a whole doesnt like you, its prob your own damn fault.

Its actually his choice if he wants to be a loner or not, and if the fact that he is a loner even weighs in in the slightest then this trail is a joke.

07-12-2012 , 01:21 AM

#328

CPHoya

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Personally think you just give him the 1-month WW ban in the infractions thread and tell him that if any future problems arise that's a perma, no discussion. That's where I'd go.

07-12-2012 , 01:21 AM

#329

ShipItUp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Also the timing of the thread opening late was exaggerrated slightly by SIU, with the latest morning being the morning where I had to figure out how to resolve the fact that several people had posted significantly over the repeatedly-posted posting limit.

Sorry, like I said it was all from memory, wasn't trying to make you look like the guy on trial here.

07-12-2012 , 01:21 AM

#330

gtpitch

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Ok off to bed.

Try not to go crazy while I'm gone please.

Feel free to let the thread die until magic logs in again.

07-12-2012 , 01:22 AM

#331

vixticator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

Yah, as I've already intimated, the only reason Gazz is on the block and not some of the much worse offenders in this forum is that he's not well liked. He's not well liked for reason, but there it is.

This is right

07-12-2012 , 01:22 AM

#332

CPHoya

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Sorry, like I said it was all from memory, wasn't trying to make you look like the guy on trial here.

It's no worries, just trying to explain that the scene for that incident wasn't ideal to begin with. That mitigates.

07-12-2012 , 01:22 AM

#333

VarianceMinefield

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks

Its actually his choice if he wants to be a loner or not, and if the fact that he is a loner even weighs in in the slightest then this trail is a joke.

its not about him being a loner

its about him telling everyone to screw off and not caring that he ruined a game

him quitting burn notice is just crazy. not talking to his team

just deciding he doesnt want to bother. doesnt even consider subbing out

its just scummy

07-12-2012 , 01:22 AM

#334

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks

Its actually his choice if he wants to be a loner or not, and if the fact that he is a loner even weighs in in the slightest then this trail is a joke.

Several people have claimed to take up his cause bc he has no defenders.

Thats not a good reason, and based on the above, you agree then?

He has no defenders for a reason and those backing him up bc of that are misguided, to say th least.

07-12-2012 , 01:23 AM

#335

CPHoya

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I'm a little curious about who the much worse offenders are, because the one people like to drag through the mud still is Systo, and he's actually pretty great now and has been for a while. . .

07-12-2012 , 01:23 AM

#336

metsandfinsfan

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ok

who is a worse offender? can somebody answer?

07-12-2012 , 01:23 AM

#337

ShipItUp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks

I dont know all the details.

I have played with magic more then once and had no prob with him.

The only reason i feel that he is targeted is that he isnt affiliated in any cool groups. He is an easy target,

The day this court goes after some high profilers i might get some respect for it, til then i´m in magic camp.

And I seriously 100% agree with this.

07-12-2012 , 01:24 AM

#338

CPHoya

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Also the Burn Notice thing sounds pretty lol, that alone is probably worth a 2-week.

07-12-2012 , 01:24 AM

#339

metsandfinsfan

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i can think of 1 or 2 actually but ill keep quiet

07-12-2012 , 01:24 AM

#340

VarianceMinefield

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i was going to be mislynched the day magic gazz conceded

he couldve literally posted nothing that day and helped his team

instead he came in and posted the wolves should give up and it wasnt worth it to play

07-12-2012 , 01:24 AM

#341

metsandfinsfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Also the Burn Notice thing sounds pretty lol, that alone is probably worth a 2-week.

he got 2 weeks for it. it ended july 3rd

07-12-2012 , 01:25 AM

#342

Larry Legend

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I don't understand what a "cool group" is.

But I think you guys are forgetting that magic has proven to be a net negative to the games, and that is really not fun.

07-12-2012 , 01:25 AM

#343

CPHoya

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Also the Burn Notice thing sounds pretty lol, that alone is probably worth a 2-week.

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

he got 2 weeks for it. it ended july 3rd

cphoya4mod

07-12-2012 , 01:25 AM

#344

metsandfinsfan

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COME ON VAGINA'S .... SAY WHO IS A WORSE OFFENDER

07-12-2012 , 01:25 AM

#345

loosekanen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

I disagree,

Look at willi for example. He broke several games egregiously when he first started. People like him a lot now. Why? Because he was genuinely VERY SORRY, wanted to understand what he did wrong, wanted to improve, wanted to be part of the group.

Magic does none of that. He just tells everyone to piss off and now he's getting loner credit? He did that to himself. POG is an open friendly community, if the group as a whole doesnt like you, its prob your own damn fault.

i disagree with this pretty strongly. some of us just like to play fun games with other people who try, even if we're not very good at them.

there is a lot of group-exclusive behavior in this community and it can be daunting, even for a 2+2 vet from the outside. so while i get where you're coming from here, as someone from the outside looking in, i feel it to be pretty biased.

not to say i haven't chatted with some cool people. i just take issue with the whole "open group" thing.

07-12-2012 , 01:26 AM

#346

VoraciousReader

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks

Its actually his choice if he wants to be a loner or not, and if the fact that he is a loner even weighs in in the slightest then this trail is a joke.

But you do see why people that have been injured by his behavior might not find "piss up a rope I do what I want" as inspiring confidence that won't just do the same sorts of things again?

Given how much I used to mod I have probably "wrecked" more games than anyone on the forum, but I hope the players affected know that I am sorry and I would not intentionally break a game.

07-12-2012 , 01:27 AM

#347

CPHoya

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I'll back lk up on that fwiw

Anyway if we actually ban him that's gonna suck because of what LK said about POG survivor. Just WW-ban him for a while with a barrel of the gun warning. Either it works out one way or it works out the other. No mess.

07-12-2012 , 01:27 AM

#348

insanity31

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A+ thread

as for magic jizz...

Spoiler:

07-12-2012 , 01:30 AM

#349

Monkey Banana

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

monkey's old account was permabanned and he's welcome in games now
and he posts much better

so permabans are stupid anyway.

if i were king, id give him 2 or 3 months

I have never been banned from POG or from 2p2*. I have told you this before but you keep on saying it. Would you become a better poster if we permabanned you?

Last edited by Monkey Banana; 07-12-2012 at 01:31 AM. Reason: *for longer than a day or two ;)