I don't think he's remotely as bad as you're painting him.

His ban ended July 3rd, so no, he is not currently banned.

*grunch*

magic has been frustrating for me to play with. My read is he wanted to help the team but bad stuff happened, vs. intentionally trying to kill the game.

He doesn't have a good sense for how his words or actions affect others. He lacks empathy.

I think he knows silman IRL? A mod PM to Silman for background and depth could be productive.

Motivation: He probably thought magic is unfairly tagged for past transgressions and a new account would help. But there really is a problem with his current fit.

This is not like a cheating scandal where auto-perma makes sense. My preliminary thought is 6 months without werewolf*. If he wants to sheep, other games, pub, etc., that could work fine. If he sticks around then some adjustment will have taken place, and I would try again playing werewolf with him.

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* I don't know the actual official list of good/bad.

he conceded a game his teammate was gonna win at f3 without massive village angleshooting lol

In his concession he said something about liking quitting when he feel he might not win.

shipitup you tried to selfban for a year and are back 2 months later trolling this thread

please

how many of the games he's played has this happened in?

some raw data would be nice

Can you link to this?

For next time only let people who are taking it seriously post in it imo. POG Court is srs bsnss

I like this post a lot.

i propose we put magic on probation, and not allow unouted gimmicks at all.

if that happens, i may jizz my pants

He was already punished for this.

I honestly dont care what happens to him. but bloodshed is never a bad thing

so... ye defenders of magic:

if he comes here and rages, defends himself, does not rend his clothes and sit in ashes and sackcloth, will you snap-call a perma ban? let's just settle this first, since there's a >0% this happens, and i don't want to leave any backpedaling room if this happens.

If we can provide evidence to all of these things that Felix and Krazy are saying then a steeper punishment might be in order if we get absolute 100% confirmation that magic and numbers guy are the same person.

You're right.

Systo, I'm sorry for accusing you of being MagicGazz. I didn't accuse you of cheating fwiw, thats not what happened in our game. But he was a tool in postgame. I apologize.

I'm off to bed

Felix, keep saying what I'm thinking

seriously in the one or two games i played with magic gazz, the games were more fun because he was in them.

i understand not everyone feels this way, but fwiw that's how his participation has effected me

someone not emotionally invested in this: what did numbers guy actually do?

(as concise as possible, thx)

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i wouldnt mind if he got put on probation or whatever. i dont think he will change his attitude ever

i believe one game he was a villager and being pushed a lot and tilting

and he started a thread asking for new sites to play on

He's seriously never been that much of a problem to me, people make mistakes. The only thing banning him is going to do is make it so we start banning anyone who makes mistakes.

Its okay.

We brought out a potentially bigger issue as a result, so its fine. No hard feelings.

No.

I think a permaban is too harsh.

I think six months sounds fine as the upper bounds of the punishment, contrition or no.

what about it

my suspension is over today for that by the way

and what about it