Ok so this is most of the interaction here.
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Originally Posted by domer2
alright im a villager
slight wolf lean on tappokone for his first post, far too planned out for my liking. he is taking the game super serious so far...a bit too serious. i'll read his prior games before making any sort of definitive read.
wolf lean on shipitup, who is very calculated with his posts so far and not at all free flowing. his sentences are all parsed perfectly.
village lean on Larue and SYF
getting back to SIU, read this post again:
Now this is a sponge first of all, its a soft push second of all....but I think its also potentially shroop where he had something like "it was weird for me too" and then was editing it around to get it perfect and ended up with that.
Even taking out the shroop (a bit of a mythical beast), that post reads like a wolf early game observation.
SIU
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Originally Posted by Steve Yzerman fan
Based on previous experience, I have a hard time believing that SIU is a wolf
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
What exactly has he done that puts him out of his wolf range?
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Originally Posted by domer2
SYF is so villagery it isn't even funny. SYF you might as well be seer cleared for me right now I feel so strongly in that read (not a peek).
macavoy = w
this is such a wolf opening. such a wolf opening. he also spews two different people here.
shipitup is w based off this post
syf is v based off this post
macavoy
After re-reading I follow your argument, however it seems like a LOT to base off of one post by McAvoy. Is that not a very valid question by McAvoy? I read it as saying don't clear SIU this early. There hasn't been enough to clear anyone yet.
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
Why on Earth would he try and change the mind of the only person who thinks I'm villagery if we were w/w? Keep in mind that when me and Mac were w/w before he didn't draw any doubt on me AT ALL. In fact, he was my biggest supporter, so your entire case for this is completely wrong.
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Originally Posted by domer2
Because you've got 2 votes already and are a weak link in the chain. Why is Macavoy making that post as his first post? Why? Makes no sense.
And also...using past game meta to argue against a hard read is just desperation. You already know Mac will flip wolf, don't you?
At this time SIU had been getting a good amount of heat and brings up a great point. Why would a fellow wolf try and change the mind of someone who thinks SIU is a villager? If McAvoy is a wolf and SIU is a wolf do you really think McAvoy would bus him a few hours into day 1?
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
Mac knows I'm a good wolf so if your saying he is bussing me already because he thinks I'm weak then your continuing to amaze me with your awful reads. And no I don't know he'll flip wolf, please stop being so bad.
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Originally Posted by domer2
I don't agree that the logic is all over the place...I read SIU as wolf. I vote for him. Macavoy shows up with a wolf entrance. I vote for him. I then start to unravel the wolf communication (assuming that these are both wolves). If SIU isn't a wolf, well then it was a dead end that I was pursuing, but I'm pretty sure he is at this point.
The biggest evidence so far is SIU's wolf list where he lists mcavoy. Who was pushing mcavoy? Me. So he both believes my case but also thinks I am a wolf. This is a contradiction Kaze. It's also the second piece of data that points to mcavoy/SIU being w/w together.
My casing so far has been logical and penetrative.
I just feel like this whole case was made while grasping at straws. I know we don't have anything other than straws to grasp at on day 1, but this is like a web and it's all built on one post by McAvoy. I agree though that it was strange McAvoy would open with that post. I'm moving you back to neutral on my list for the time being as I now follow this, but I do not necessarily agree with it. I just don't think they would interact w/w like that and that McAvoy would bus a fellow wolf this early into the game. I still think it's quite possible that either one of them could be a wolf and now I want to do a re-read of McAvoy.