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08-17-2016 , 04:38 PM
benneh: I am assuming that football fantasy is not viewwd as a competing site (I was not even aware it was popular on POG). But I have no intention of playing devil's advocate and would like gambit and KruZe to answer this themselves, if possible.

Another question: if the greens tried to allow MU advertising, would red mods discontinue this new policy?
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08-17-2016 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KruZe
What? I never did any such thing.

When I created the Turbo Players Chat, it was to be used for the purpose of notifying interested players that a turbo signup was in progress and the details of the game. I made it strictly for the that purpose, not to be used as a general Skype chat to avoid random notifications.

I don't care what is said in a general purpose Skype chat and I never have.

The sole purpose of my Turbo Skype group is to act simply as a notification tool for interested players that weren't interested in a general type chat.

It has worked very well for that purpose.

I guess I should rename it something other than chat, but the members typically follow the guideline that it is usually only bumped if there is a turbo that needs filling.
You have certainly banned people advertising turbo games on MU within the "Real Turbo Players Chat" skype room. I do not have the logs, but I remember feeling confused and put off by it.
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08-17-2016 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
I have always assumed the greens had actually no choice bc advertising competing sites is against the rules. Is that wrong?
i think they have a choice there

but if you want to be a super nit it might be correct to take Kruze's line

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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Another question: if the greens tried to allow MU advertising, would red mods discontinue this new policy?
"lol"
-gambit
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08-17-2016 , 04:41 PM
Don't know anything about what's going on, but here for the long drawn out discussion
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08-17-2016 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by benneh
I am decently sure you have lashed out when MU turbo signups were announced in that skype room

You have definitely had more than one rant about how terrible MU is for 'stealing POG players', so even if i'm wrong that you hadn't actually policed MU turbo sign ups in there, it definitely comes with that connotation because of the attitude toward MU that you've shown in there
Yes; this is not my imagination.
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08-17-2016 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
You have certainly banned people advertising turbo games on MU within the "Real Turbo Players Chat" skype room. I do not have the logs, but I remember feeling confused and put off by it.
Oh really I banned them? Who did I ban?

I didn't.

Please stop with the lies.
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08-17-2016 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KruZe
Oh really I banned them? Who did I ban?

I didn't.

Please stop with the lies.
Thank you for the response.
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08-17-2016 , 04:46 PM
Kruze,

If I want to post somewhere advertising my game I'm running on MU, where may I do so? Would this thread be appropriate?
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08-17-2016 , 04:46 PM
Henrik,

did I do something to you or you just want to troll me?

don't get it

I dont say lol to everything
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08-17-2016 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
i think they have a choice there

but if you want to be a super nit it might be correct to take Kruze's line



"lol"
-gambit
read these two posts in the mod forum

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...13&postcount=8

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=14
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08-17-2016 , 04:48 PM
nah just my usual keeping it real with a dash of troll, don't take it personally

Kruze: i did
you realize that you only got those responses because you specially brought it to their attention as part of your war against Thingy, right?

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What should I do soah? shut my mouth and not give a damn and watch the playerbase/game rate sink?
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Originally Posted by 72off
i dunno, maybe take steps to improve POG, rather than worry about what Thingy is doing (i say give him an award if he took mets away)? as soah illustrated, the volume lost from here to there is a drop in the bucket.
i stand by what i said in that thread
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08-17-2016 , 04:48 PM
This is, frankly, a bizarre discussion. If you want to know why, it's because what the mods have to yet to say at any point today is "you make some good points." Going into self defense or "I'm rubber you're glue" mode is not productive.
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08-17-2016 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
benneh: I am assuming that football fantasy is not viewwd as a competing site (I was not even aware it was popular on POG). But I have no intention of playing devil's advocate and would like gambit and KruZe to answer this themselves, if possible.

Another question: if the greens tried to allow MU advertising, would red mods discontinue this new policy?
there are always exceptions to the rules

if I had to guess, if we allowed all things thingy in here that the reds would be okay with our decision. Not sure, but I think that is what would happen
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08-17-2016 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
Kruze,

If I want to post somewhere advertising my game I'm running on MU, where may I do so? Would this thread be appropriate?
Sure go ahead.
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08-17-2016 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
there are always exceptions to the rules

if I had to guess, if we allowed all things thingy in here that the reds would be okay with our decision. Not sure, but I think that is what would happen
Who originally took a firm stance to enforce the "no offsite linking" rule and expand it to "no outside POG WW game discussion or advertisement"?
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08-17-2016 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
oh yeah

those are kinda important
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08-17-2016 , 04:52 PM
***New Policy Effective Immediately***

Link and promote your offsite games in this thread whenever you want.
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08-17-2016 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
Kinda hard to read them when I hasn't the permissions.
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08-17-2016 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Who originally took a firm stance to enforce the "no offsite linking" rule and expand it to "no outside POG WW game discussion or advertisement"?
Me

but it was a stance on not self promoting and not soliciting our player pool
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08-17-2016 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
This is, frankly, a bizarre discussion. If you want to know why, it's because what the mods have to yet to say at any point today is "you make some good points." Going into self defense or "I'm rubber you're glue" mode is not productive.
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Originally Posted by 72off
i guess i could be wrong (it's been quite a long time since i've followed the day to day of this stuff), but this current group has seemed completely dismissive of any and all criticism

and then delete/lock
pretty shocked over here
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08-17-2016 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiitch
Kinda hard to read them when I hasn't the permissions.
It was meant for 72off, he can read them.
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08-17-2016 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
Sure go ahead.
If, hypothetically, I accidentally posted it somewhere else instead, and you decided to delete it, would you as a mod tend to say "hey I deleted your post, it should go over there instead"? You have the capability to move posts, right?

I'm trying to get at "why did you snap-delete Tom's post about turbo stuff on MU, instead of either moving it, or deleting it and saying 'hey, post that over in the WW LC thread instead' to him."

Because that sure makes it LOOK like you're just deleting stuff as either a giant FU to Tom or to Thingy, and it's definitely a thing that happened.

If you just made a mistake and think "meh, I should have done X instead", that's fine, people make mistakes, **** happens, tell us "sorry I screwed the pooch on that one" and we can move forward.
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08-17-2016 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
This is, frankly, a bizarre discussion. If you want to know why, it's because what the mods have to yet to say at any point today is "you make some good points." Going into self defense or "I'm rubber you're glue" mode is not productive.
I dont see it that way at all
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08-17-2016 , 04:57 PM
All things Thingy/MU is completely fine in PoG

have at it
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08-17-2016 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
there are always exceptions to the rules

if I had to guess, if we allowed all things thingy in here that the reds would be okay with our decision. Not sure, but I think that is what would happen
I think you should try to ask them.

Personally, the decision not to let Thingyman advertise has never bothered me at all; a lot of people seem to feel differently, however.

I am sure you (and KruZe) want POG to thrive as much as anyone; a backtrack might be a smart decision.

Or, to put it differently; should the reds agree, are there other reasons that would make you unwilling to reverse your policy?
Because whether it was justified or not, it is clear POG needs interforum co-operatioj more than MU does. The games are dry; allowing Thingy to ad will surely not hurt POG at this point.
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