While I enjoyed LOTR, I'm with LKJ here. The focus in a lot of mishmashes has drifted too far from playing ww. Like I said, I enjoyed LOTR, but while I don't really understand all the mechanics that went into it, I'm not sure they added to the experience as it went and I feel like things could easily have gone badly wrong.

We do not have any thread for a sheep business?

still dont understand your modesty about your help.

I'm gonna show you what 1% feels like.

Fwiw I think multifaction games are so removed from ww that it should be disclosed up front.

What multifactions game have there been except GOT?
I would like to read some.

I was in at least one other. Don't remember exactly.

Agree

alice in wonderland is the only one i can think of off the top of my head. I feel like there have been a bunch though

Those games are inherently not werewolf anymore.
That does not make them necessarily bad, see GOT2 which received a ton of positive opinions.

Yeah, I don't think it makes them bad either - just different. And different enough that I think it should be a requirement to give some sort of warning about it before people sign up for something that they think is werewolf :P

never have I been so insulted

Also @ the map based stuff - if this happens for HP6, it will all be public info.

And who cares if a game does not resemble ww. The point of a game is that it is fun and challenging, not that it is ww

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rofl

yeah, I was just curious because of the "we can talk offline" comment

If the words "mishmash" don't tip you off that it's not vanilla werewolf, don't know what to tell you, Thingy.

Well, I didn't say "not vanilla werewolf" :P

Again, not saying that these games can't be fun or necessarily that they aren't werewolf AT ALL (naturally, they are, to some degree), but they're different enough from both vanilla games and "regular" Mish-Mash games without multiple factions that at least I would appreciate being warned about it. If this isn't a sentiment shared by the majority, because people like the surprise element or because of some other reason, that's completely fine - I certainly wouldn't want to force it upon the community that such games should be labelled as multi-faction games in that case.

In other words: I would personally enjoy most Mish-Mashes, but I would be a bit annoyed if I had unknowingly signed up for a multi-faction Mish-Mash, since the aspects added to the game play in such a game don't appeal to me and so I would be wasting my time playing that game and that would also show in my effort which I imagine would also annoy the mod. But if I am one of very few people who feel like this, then who cares obv :P.

MtG III will have two evil teams



It will not be a waste of your time

People always find something to whine about so separating out genuine concerns from just the general bitching is hard for a mod. People tended to be saying "multifaction games aren't werewolf but I really enjoyed GOT3" so yeah.

I mean, I'm not whining. And it's not a concern about whether the game "works" obviously. And I mean, enough Mish-Mashes run that I'm sure some of these will be able to promise no multi-faction mechanics and so I could just play these, so it's not a big personal problem for me. I was just... Discussing and expressing my stance. If my stance isn't shared by the majority, that's cool. It certainly isn't whining though.

For me, it is very simple: I enjoy the trying to read other people / trying to trick other people aspect of the game. And then it's often made more fun for me if a bunch of roles and mechanics are added, but with this key aspect of the game still remaining intact. With multi-faction games I personally believe that you cannot get solid reads on people, since they could actually be genuinely hunting for bad guys without this excluding them from being bad guys themselves. Plus, you could be owning as a wolf and be on everyone's villager lists, and then you're taken out by a secondary wolf faction or something like that - which I personally think is lame. But this is all just me.

GOT was fun but if I knew there were 90% wolves I would've just hero stabbed blindly with my fork or whatever I was given rather than listening to people. Don't know how I still ended up with 75% Lannisters on my wolf lists but I blame that on the design as well

This is a very well-stated opinion.

Counterpoint: LOL FREIGHTERS

That's why I like Gabe, always pushing the envelope. I'm glad to see that Gabe keep it up and rand me werewolf cuz vampires have glitter and pale and gay. No thanks

blatant lies itt

to all of this, btw.