That was due to the spoilers event. We routinely end up with about 800-1K PMs after the game, but the unread PMs situation is usually not particularly tragic.

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I vehemently defended you in that spot. I said you were an obvious villager and I made a post in ALL CAPS about you should not be killed.
I am also generally very much opposed to going after LHF on D1 because I hate it.
I was trying to lunch irtm iirc. And I also stand by my impression of CC there even though she was a wolf. Her response to the DZ stuff was good.

Admittedly, you protect CC as a policy and it impacts other players. A large part of the issue is CC not ever posting much and occasionally no-to-very-low posting.

If this only happened in one specific game, I don't think there would be much complaint or frustrations, but it's a bad combination and a pattern so despite having a defense and game-specific justifications, it's valid that some people are frustrated and I hope everyone can figure out a constructive approach so game sign-ups aren't impacted.

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You're making posts to invalidate the complaint instead of actually addressing it. That's fine if that's what you want to do, but I don't think it solves anything.

Pulling the posts was the easy part.

I'll address it though.

Dude do you not understand that I'm not talking about whether i got lunched D1

Deli has it exactly correct:

In what part of this am I placing any blame on the mod?

And again, and more importantly, what exactly do you expect me to do?
Other than take full responsibility and apologize to the community?

Esp given that I have literally no history of 0 posting.

Yeah that was mostly unfair to have called you out for. My bad

I don't see how that is an issue.
I've been wrong about CC now twice [ok three times]

The first time I was wrong about CC it was awful and she was the seer and had peeked me, and then Manasi made an a sort of amazing seer claim and cc was afk and it was awful and we lunched the seer. I had been clearing her all game. I made a horrible mistake with the manasi claim [esp when I was calling manasi a wolf and because cc had peeked me...it was bad]

The second time I was wrong about CC she was a neutral and she still lost the game but she didn't know who the wolves were and neutrals are hard.

The third time I was wrong (again, barely) about CC was this game in question but I put her in my POE starting from D3 and then carried that through and lunched her in the F3. Also please recall that in that game there were two days that ended early where she was not able to post at all because village majj'd early.

But if I'm generally reading CC correctly, why should I not defend her when people are going after her as LHF early in games?
I also hate lunching LHF in general.

Again, you're making it about something it is not about. It isn't about whether you are right or wrong on reading CC. It IS about how your policy of white knighting CC impacts the game and other players. Someone is telling you it is upsetting.

Saying it is because you hate lunching LHF in general is a cop out. CC can, and often does, escape LHF lunches while low-posting in games you are not in.

Having a policy no-lunch of a specific player because you have a nice friendship with them is just as bad as having a policy lunch of someone just because you don't like them or find them annoying. It may not necessarily impact the overall outcome of games, but people are telling you it impacts their feels and it seems preferable to exclude that facet from your own meta, as is only in your power to do.

I want to quickly put it out there also that I did not and would not out because of CC. Some people know that, but I feel like onlookers to that sign up thread might think that is why I outed and it is DEFINITELY not!!!

I should make it clear that CC is not my only policy no-lunch on D1.
Mets is in that category. VR would be in that category. Fanmail I would probably put in that category unless he was really howling. Also players from the past like my mason XXSooted, people like Shortline who are generally too good to lunch D1, and others.

And this is because I can read these people. It's how I've always played. And I have no idea what the impact on others is supposed to be here. I've been lunched on D1 myself countless times. Some people live longer in games than others for various reasons. But the impact on others on me personally having some D1 policy no lunches is negligible. I couldn't even save bsball in the game in question despite how much I protested that he was good.
Bsball is in fact, would also be policy no lunch unless he was howling. He's not at all hard to read imo. What happened with him was awful. But yeah CC made some good emo posts as a wolf there-- which is great and now I know.
Herbie I would never lunch on a d1.
I would say Nich is super LHF and no d1 Nich lunches
Not Soah, not Traz, not LuckayLuck either.
Filthy is pretty LHF usually.
3 categories of players: the really good, the really readable, and the really LHF should all be policy d1 no kill. Unless they are howling.

Fair enough to the bolded. :shrug: I'm done explaining why that's an aggravating policy to players who don't make it onto your white list and who have to deal with it every game. Hey, someone has to die early game, but it's all good as long as it isn't someone you personally like, or whose game you respect, or someone who isn't posting!

I mean I can't even save myself on D1 sometimes is sort of my point too.

I mean I know I'm not the greatest werewolf player. There are all sorts of holes in my game I've never filled. I'm not the worst either. Pretty far from that too.
And D1 is a day that has to be used strategically. If I'm playing and if I'm a villager and especially if it's a 13er, then I want the people alive who I can read later in the game. It's like extra peeks.

Nobody is saying you can save anyone, you've officially received a complaint about your policy specifically in regards to the way you white knight CC constantly. You do you. People can just not play if it bothers them enough.

there was nothing villagery about cc's "emo posts"

the emotion showed in those posts was obviously role neutral as I pointed out immediately

consider using your mistakes as things to learn from instead of things to defend for the sake of a fragile ego

your ego is not your friend anyway

I've always been a sucker for emo posts. I know that. I admit it.

Because you aren't reading her correctly which is what people keep telling you.

They are wrong though.
I have only barely ever been wrong about her. I did actually lunch her correctly to win the last game.
I already went through every mistake I've ever made reading her. And they are so so slightly mistakes: a game where I fall for a fake seer claim in dumb circumstances when I had been correctly clearing her, a neutral game or hers, and the last game, where I did lunch her correctly.
So they are wrong.

Hi Sun Tzu, hope you're doing well.