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04-05-2006 , 11:40 PM

#101

RiverFenix

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,829

A real angel wouldnt reveal that he is the angel, he would just protect himself if he were to be lynched. Only the seer should ever reveal himself

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04-05-2006 , 11:40 PM

#102

bobbyi

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,837

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So when you said you Angel-ed yourself from lynching

Um, I never said that.

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04-05-2006 , 11:40 PM

#103

rbdog

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 301

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if bobbyi is the angel, it doesn't really matter if we lynch him today or let him live. the angel is only worthwhile when undercover and the seer is in the open. bobbyi isn't undercover anymore, so screw him. we're pretty much just picking randomly at this point, so we're like 1 in 5 to get a werewolf by chance. i think the chance bobbyi is a werewolf is higher than 1 in 5, so i think we should lynch him. everyone who votes after we have a clear majority for bobbyi should vote for someone who has zero votes though, so the seer can id a werewolf with minimal danger of outing himself. do not vote for someone who already has a vote, even if you're the seer and you want to out a werewolf. 2 votes for one person is a dead giveaway one of the voters is the seer. it's not worth trading the seer for a werewolf at this point. we can narrow down the possible werewolves pretty quick this way.

So are you changing your vote? Dont forget to bold.

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04-05-2006 , 11:41 PM

#104

bobbyi

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A real angel wouldnt reveal that he is the angel, he would just protect himself if he were to be lynched.

I can't protect myself from being lynched. I don't understand why so many people are having trouble with that part.

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04-05-2006 , 11:44 PM

#105

Kramer.

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So when you said you Angel-ed yourself from lynching,

he said he saved himself from werewolves.

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04-05-2006 , 11:45 PM

#106

talentdeficit

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no, i'm encouraging just enough people to vote to lynch him to do so.

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04-05-2006 , 11:46 PM

#107

bobbyi

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the seer should ever reveal himself

Whoever is the seer should use his power tonight to verify that I am really not a werewolf. I invite him to do so. I have nothing to hide. Then tomorrow, he can reveal himself and also tell everyone else that I really am the angel. Until then, kill someone else. If I am lying, you will be able to kill me tomorrow anyway.

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04-05-2006 , 11:47 PM

#108

sightless

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

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04-05-2006 , 11:48 PM

#109

keikiwai

BBV Lollercoaster Safety Technician

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,961

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

Yes. You are trying to out our seer, and maybe even hoping the real angel will out himself. Def. increasing the odds in my eyes that u are a werewolf.

Edit: Directed at bobbyi

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04-05-2006 , 11:49 PM

#110

bobbyi

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

What good is a seer otherwise? Is he just going to find who the werewolves are and keep it to himself?

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04-05-2006 , 11:49 PM

#111

OneChipWarrior

adept

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,088

Yah, seer reveals himself and gets WHACKED

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04-05-2006 , 11:50 PM

#112

Kramer.

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the seer should ever reveal himself

ahhh, it makes sense now. sacrifice bobbyi, so the other 3 werewolves know who the seer is.

remember, the wolves can pm each other in private....

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04-05-2006 , 11:50 PM

#113

sightless

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

What good is a seer otherwise? Is he just going to find who the werewolves are and keep it to himself?

So he would stay alive.

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04-05-2006 , 11:50 PM

#114

bobbyi

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

Yes. You are trying to out our seer

I'm not outing the seer. I'm saying he should stay secret until after tonight where he will verify I am not a wolf. If it turns out I am one, lynch me tomorrow like you would have today. There is no downside here.

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04-05-2006 , 11:52 PM

#115

bobbyi

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

What good is a seer otherwise? Is he just going to find who the werewolves are and keep it to himself?

So he would stay alive.

I can help him stay alive. If I know who the seer is, at night I will choose at random whether to protect him or me. Since the wolves know I will do this, it would be a waste for them to go after either of us and have a 50% of a failed kill when they could kill one of the rest of y'all guaranteed.

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04-05-2006 , 11:52 PM

#116

mowz

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

Yes. You are trying to out our seer

The downside is the based on everyone's knowledge so far, you seem like the most likely candidate for a wolf. If we lynch someone else today then we increase the probability of lynching a villager.

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04-05-2006 , 11:55 PM

#117

bobbyi

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The downside is the based on everyone's knowledge so far, you seem like the most likely candidate for a wolf. If we lynch someone else today then we increase the probability of lynching a villager.

But if you lynch me today, you need to pick someone else tomorrow. I am just transposing the two days.

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04-05-2006 , 11:55 PM

#118

sightless

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

What good is a seer otherwise? Is he just going to find who the werewolves are and keep it to himself?

So he would stay alive.

so then the deal is not good for the rest of us all, as there is more chance that one of us good folks will get eaten by werewolfs?

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04-05-2006 , 11:57 PM

#119

bobbyi

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ahhh, it makes sense now. sacrifice bobbyi, so the other 3 werewolves know who the seer is.

This wouldn't make sense. The angel would just protect the seer every night. That is why it is good to have a secret angel, but I had to out myself because it is the only way to avoid certain death.

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04-05-2006 , 11:58 PM

#120

keikiwai

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The downside is the based on everyone's knowledge so far, you seem like the most likely candidate for a wolf. If we lynch someone else today then we increase the probability of lynching a villager.

But if you lynch me today, you need to pick someone else tomorrow. I am just transposing the two days.

A duck in the hand is better than two in the bush...

or however that saying goes

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04-06-2006 , 12:00 AM

#121

bobbyi

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so then the deal is not good for the rest of us all, as there is more chance that one of us good folks will get eaten by werewolfs?

It maximizes the chance of the village surviving. That is your goal. Avoiding being lynched for many turns only to ultimately be overrun my werewolves is not what you want to do win.

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04-06-2006 , 12:01 AM

#122

pudley4

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Why should seer risk his identity???????!

What good is a seer otherwise? Is he just going to find who the werewolves are and keep it to himself?

So he would stay alive.

But they'll get one of you two very soon, and they'll know who both the angel and the seer are. That's far more important than killing a couple of random villagers.

Plus, it's very easy for a wolf to come on and post "I'm the seer, and bobbyi is/isn't a wolf". When two posts are contradictory, who do we believe?

bye bobbyi.

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04-06-2006 , 12:02 AM

#123

sightless

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so then the deal is not good for the rest of us all, as there is more chance that one of us good folks will get eaten by werewolfs?

It maximizes the chance of the village surviving. That is your goal. Avoiding being lynched for many turns only to ultimately be overrun my werewolves is not what you want to do win.

really, how so?