Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! for seer?

i think this is proof that MD is the seer.

Players: 10 outstanding votes

4_2_it
d10
Evans67 voted for jesusarenque
jba voted for jesusarenque
jesusarenque (7 vote)
keikiwai voted for jesusarenque
Kramer. (1 vote)
Macdaddy Warsaw voted for jesusarenque
mic_check12
mowz
nation voted for jesusarenque
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! voted for jesusarenque
pudley4
rbdog voted for jesusarenque
Sightless voted for Kramer.
tightplay
Toe-Knee
zephed

Here is an earlier post of MacDaddy's where he BOLDS the names of people he thought were wolves. So why would he investigate ME if he weren't even suspicious? Something is fishy.

I just want to say. You won't find out if I'm a seer unless I out another werewolf. If I don't, your fervor will rise and you will end up spilling my blood. If I come out and say, here, this person is one of your own, you can't trust me. You might think I'm lying...

I'm telling you I'm not. I gave my reasons for why I chose to investigate Jesusarenque. The reason was stupid, yes, but it was the only thing I could go on. Everybody's been active recently.

Also, the reason I said I agreed with 4_2_it on Kramer.'s identity if because I knew the identity of both. I felt that if I didn't hit on a werewolf (that is, if I found out jesusarenque was, in fact, a villager) then I could try to bounce these two off of eachother until it became more clear as to who was a wolf.

Now, it becomes more difficult, but I thought my number was rising among the WW's. Kill Jesus tonight, protect me tonight, and I'll do my best to find you another wolf.

I think you're focked, even if it is 27th level thinking.

i meant if we all vote for jesus, and he's really a werewolf, then you're the seer

if we all vote for jesus and he's a villager, then you're obviously a werewolf

jba,

So you are saying that the seer should not tell us who he chose to consult about unless we are ready to lynch them?

If so, then the game is for the seer to tell everyone who to vote for and we need do nothing else until the wolves kill the angel. Also, if I am not the angel, then it would be good strategy to sacrifice me to the in order to clear another villager. We outnumber them right now.

Haha, read that again. Those were the people I felt had "not spoken up". I won't yet admit that I don't think those people aren't wolves. I can't speak to that. All I know is that you are one.

And I was suspicious. That's why I investigated you. Your retort lacks sense. Just lay your head down and go peacefully.

Okay, I think the wolves will eat me tonight, so let me tie the rope around one werewolf's neck:

Lynch jesusarenque

Good luck all......

Players: 9 outstanding votes

4_2_it voted for jesusarenque
d10
Evans67 voted for jesusarenque
jba voted for jesusarenque
jesusarenque (8 votes)
keikiwai voted for jesusarenque
Kramer. (1 vote)
Macdaddy Warsaw voted for jesusarenque
mic_check12
mowz
nation voted for jesusarenque
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! voted for jesusarenque
pudley4
rbdog voted for jesusarenque
Sightless voted for Kramer.
tightplay
Toe-Knee
zephed

Actually, there's a third possibility that I was getting at, and that possibility was the fact that somebody might come out and say that I was a werewolf and we had hatched some ploy to kill one of us off in order to make the other 3 (myself, kramer, and 4_2_it) look less suspicious and innocent. The only way the villagers can remedy this is by murdering one of us, or by trusting me. When Jesus dies today, you guys will come up with some name for me to investigate. When I come back the next day and tell you, look, here, that person you wanted "seen", well he's just a normal villager. Your trust in me will waver. If I come back with a human 2 or 3 nights in a row, your trust in me will be practically gone. At that point, you'll probably murder 4_2_it or Kramer. in order to try to validate my story. It's a terrible cycle.

I'm just bringing all these things up now because I think that's how things will go if we don't find another werewolf soon. If we do, then I'm good, and we'll have a pretty good advantage.

Basically, I'm just asking you guys not to be too results oriented in the next few "day/night" cycles. Whether I come back with villagers or werewolves, I promise you I'm the seer.

PS: I'm aware this dissertation makes me seem suspicious. And yes, I do see the analogue between myself and Henry Gale.

OK STOP. I am not a wolf. I AM THE ANGEL

I tried holding off, but now you are about to kill me. Kill MD, he is a wolf. He is lying!

I will be protecting myself tonight.

Lynch jesusarenque I see no other options.

FYP to reflect absolute worst possible outcome.

It makes no sense to kill me. Why would MD out me now and expose himself? He is the WW. Don't listen to him. If you kill the Angel you will have problems. Kill him. You can always kill me later if you think I am lying.

Players: 8 outstanding votes

4_2_it voted for jesusarenque
d10
Evans67 voted for jesusarenque
jba voted for jesusarenque
jesusarenque (9 votes)
keikiwai voted for jesusarenque
Kramer. (1 vote)
Macdaddy Warsaw voted for jesusarenque
mic_check12
mowz
nation voted for jesusarenque
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! voted for jesusarenque
pudley4
rbdog voted for jesusarenque
Sightless voted for Kramer.
tightplay
Toe-Knee voted for jesusarenque
zephed

How would he know if your the angel, he would have no way of knowing unless he is the seer and happens to be working with the werewolves. Doesn't make sense.

Now you are the Angel? You are saying the werewolves outed one of themselves to take a longshot gamble for the angel. Hmm. That card would have been more effective earlier.

He doesn't know I'm the angel. He just got lucky.

i don't buy it

MD would be making too risky of a move if he is a ww and not the seer

he'd essentially be sacrificing himself for the angel, and we outnumber the wws.

hes for sure not the angel. its the bobbyi move.

We outnumber them, but we don't know who they are. I think we have been heavily discussing lynching a couple of them, so they felt they had to make a move. Look at who we were asking the seer to look at. Maybe a couple of wolves there.

There is no point in randomly guessing at who the angel is, they would have to be absolutely sure you are the angel before they decided to sacrifice one of their own. There is no way of them knowing who the angel is.

Macdaddy,

I just had all those same thoughts. You seem like a bright guy, so I'm about 100% sure jesus is a WW - everyone knows a kamikaze werewolf is a [censored]. If you dont start producing more wolves and fast, you're a

All,

Let's all be prepared for at least one more seer to show up by nightfall tomorrow. His story will be much more rehearsed than jesus's LOL angel story. The one showing up tomorrow might be the real one, or he might be a wolf in seer's clothing.