Also, apparently being a giver is bad.

I seriously doubt pwns bears any malice toward anyone, much less atak.

some people definitely made some posts in here.

I doubt pwns has feelings. He's very mellow.

Elliot


When push comes to shove you agree with me. I get heat for being an "Elliot apologist", I take the good with the bad, it is time for you to suck it up and not hate pwns.


In fact you should extend an olive branch to grumpy old man kioshk.

Nobody's dragging me into this ****. I'm just testifying to pwns' non-malicious character.

How was your day

I just worry (probably too much) about where the line is, and when someone says they are really depressed and can't take the poking fun, why risk it? Just be a friend.

okokok but...

did she really dump him on the excuse that he's a giver and she's a taker?

waaaat?

There are a million and one places on the internet where you can be as big of a tool as you want and not give a **** about the effect it has on other people, but I'd like to think that Pog isn't one, and frankly it shames me to think that outsiders might perceive us as just another bunch of internet trolls. If you think your own amusement justifies causing someone else distress, then I would seriously think you need to have a think about your priorities, and if the posts were made unmaliciously, then they represent a huge error of judgement and/or a massive failure of internet tone.

U mad bro?

Jesus Christ, atak broke up with his girlfriend. This isn't a ****ing national tragedy. The POG Self-Righteous Brigade needs to get off all its high horses here.

When you die of old age, we'll all make plenty of jokes old man, don't worry

So you are saying you support the banning of hifi?

Well besides the whole making a bunch of pubs when WN changed the name of the main pub.

It's pretty cheap and self-absorbed to pick on someone in his own well, on top of everything else. Get your own thread if you want to be class clown at someone else's expense.

I guess I'll just bring back MY well so all the clowns have an outlet of someone to pick on. Since none of the self-righteous people care about pyramid's feelings it should solve everyones problems

Its like posting Alice videos to troll pyramid.



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Good luck atak. You will find your happiness

Mac,

I don't hate pwns at all. I think he was out of line here. That's a huge difference. I thought you were out of line in that post that got you banned for a while. But I never hated you. On the contrary. And I do think that you are often far more right than your critics give you credit for, especially about women, even though you push things further than I would.

Here, I understand what you are saying about the guy teasing thing and making light of it. I really do. And, moreover, atak must in some way be ready for SOME of that because he posted in here and he basically poked a little fun at himself for the intensity of his ..... certainty ..... about things working out at the beginning. But pwns crossed a line that was hurtful to atak and atak asked him to stop. And at that point it was time to stop.

Basically, what kokiri said.

Ok,

So you agree that kokiri should be pushing for hifi's ban?

Gder also crossed a line


That doesn't make what gder said malice.

not that i think that it's relevant here, but if you look at what i wrote about hifi, you'll find that i didn't really decide either way whilst leaning towards not wanting to see her banned and that i agreed strongly with wyman's posts about pog being a community.

I don't think that there's the remotest bit of inconsistency between my views there and here.

Kokiri,

I didn't know where you stood tbh and just assumed. I understand and accept your position.

My skin isn't quite as thin as everybody thinks — I definitely didn't like the comment about hooking pwns up with devi because it felt more mean-spirited than the joking that I expected (and I definitely expected and was prepared for some); I think it's more about intent than anything else... but it wasn't like I was cut to the core by it. But because of how I read the intent, I thought it pretty inappropriate. If I read pwns's intent wrong, I'm sorry for that, but it felt to me like he was trying to be funny even while knowing — I figured he must have — that I would be hurt by the reminder that right now she's off with (I presume) someone else because I wasn't good enough for her. That's why.

I thought LL's actually was funny and fine. But no, Larry, you may not have the Devi account, sorry.

The giver/taker thing, I'm sorry apparently wasn't clear. She thinks I only take and she always gives. Just about everyone else close to me would say otherwise, and much of devi's giving to me was over my objections and despite my efforts to stop it (for example, she never let me pay for dinner even when I tried, and she counts as me "taking" stuff like what she spent on repainting the house we moved into together despite my having objected to her doing it; those things are about money and there's a lot more to giving and taking than dollars, but that's what she focused on most). Notwithstanding that I do see where she got it, but it's sad that she now (and for the past couple months) sees only the side wherein she's the one who gives.

Now, back to the Kripalu trenches, which remain intensely frustrating the past couple days — the explanation is long and will have to wait. But yes, I'm still glad I'm here, and in fact really don't want to leave.