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Old 11-05-2012, 12:46 PM   #1401
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Re: The well: atakdog

you need to do squats, bro
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:54 PM   #1402
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atak

hope things work out
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:08 PM   #1403
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:22 PM   #1404
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to pretty much everything said on the last page. Best of luck.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:05 PM   #1405
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:39 PM   #1406
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I begin every workout with squats.

(that's re iversonian's comment)
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:16 PM   #1407
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I am going to go against the grain here and say being a yoga instructor when you are still in love with, but not with, a yoga instructor might be a bad idea.

but you'd know better than me. sorry, it didn't work out but it was a risk worth taking.

I still think moving near your son would be the most rewarding experience, and it would give you someone new to focus on.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:52 PM   #1408
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My yoga-is-good-for-you brag pictures, then I'm off to canvass:





(The dog in the background had just stuck his nose in my face while I was in the previous pose, an event it turned out I was not quite solid enough to make it through, considering the giggling...)










Warning: male nipples:
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:02 PM   #1409
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atak will bang a student within the first month of teaching

i kinda agree with wahoo
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:54 AM   #1410
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atak, despite your immense loserdom on paper, women want to be with you and men want to be you. tell me your secret.

edit: btw, just so you know, you validate everything that PUAs say about everything. not that i read that stuff
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:04 AM   #1411
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edit: btw, just so you know, you validate everything that PUAs say about everything. not that i read that stuff
what do you mean?
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:33 AM   #1412
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Best of luck Atak, thanks for the update, was wondering where you had been lately.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:01 AM   #1413
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sorry, it didn't work out but it was a risk worth taking.

I still think moving near your son would be the most rewarding experience, and it would give you someone new to focus on.
agreed x 2
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:27 PM   #1414
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Wahoo, TN and others: The deal with being a yoga teacher isn't done, but I'm committed (to the tune of a month of my life and a not insignificant amount of money) to doing the training, and I intend to get what I can out of that — recall that the main point is what it can do (I hope) for my head, not my pocketbook. After that I'll be able to assess its possible professional value more clearly; it makes no sense to decide about it now before I know much about it.

As for moving to be near pup: This comes up a lot. I guess there are two variations: move to the West Coast and be somewhat nearer, and move genuinely near.

Let me be clear: Moving to be really near him will never happen. I have done my stint in the middle of nowhere and while it didn't suck, I do know enough to know that it would be very wrong for me now — I'd turn inside and regress. This would happen in part because of the complete lack of opportunity, in part because of the lack of family nearby (other than pup), and in part because I wouldn't get to see him much anyway — his mother guards her custody of him very jealously.

Moving west as a general strategy, I could imagine, once the trainings are settled. But against it is that I have literally dozens of family members within driving distance of me right now, and that does matter to me, a lot. I feel at him in New England now — yes, even living, for the moment, in a house owned by devi. (And no, this doesn't mean we're seeing each other again — just a few minutes ago she texted that she needs to drop by tomorrow, and asked me not to be here.)

Which is not meant to be dismissive of either suggestion (that being a yoga teacher is not best; that living near pup is). Each is strong. It may well be right that yoga teacher is the wrong path, but yoga as a practice may be right and this is my way of finding out. But I'm not depending on it — in fact, I just decided I'm going to make some calls about rejoining Princeton Review, if we can come to some mutually agreeable understanding. (It's awkward having been at the pinnacle of teaching there — obviously I can't step back into that position, but neither will it be easy for me simply to start over. Though, come to think about it, it might be seriously funny not to tell them who I am, and just show up at a teacher training as an alleged newb. [Recall that I used to be not just a teacher, nor even a trainer, but a trainer of trainers of teachers — one of two in the country, in one of my subjects.])

And the suggestion about pup is obviously good in principle, I just know that given him, and his mother, even living nearby wouldn't get either of us very much. We still get our summers, and our two weeks at christmas, and that will have to be enough.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:31 PM   #1415
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atak, despite your immense loserdom on paper, women want to be with you and men want to be you. tell me your secret.

edit: btw, just so you know, you validate everything that PUAs say about everything. not that i read that stuff
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what do you mean?
I'm not sure I get the second part either — what do PUAs say? I'd have thought I'm pretty much the anti pickup artist.

As for the first part: you gotta love it when you can refer to my "immense loserdom" and still get a genuine (because I know what you mean). As for the secret: Just be the crazy person who writes this well.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:41 PM   #1416
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I just got some materials for Kripalu a couple days ago. Included was a sample schedule:

6:30 am - 8:00 am — Morning Yoga
8:00 am - 8:30 am — Breakfast
9:00 am - 11:30 am — Program Session
11:30 am - 1:30 pm — Lunch
1:30 pm - 4:00 pm — Program Session
4:15 pm - 6:00 pm — Afternoon Yoga/Program Session
6:00 pm - 7:00 pm — Dinner
7:30 pm - 9:00 pm — Evening Session as scheduled

Twelve days of that; no days off. Serious stuff.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:11 PM   #1417
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In case anyone cares, my regimen at the moment (which I think I need to ramp up):

Yoga — at least some every day, though only like a half hour in the morning on weightlifting days. On non-lifting days, I typically start with fifteen minutes to half an hour on my own in the morning, then do sixty to ninety minutes of it either on my own or in a class, in the afternoon.


Additional stretching (not really yoga) — on any day when I don't have two yoga sessions, I throw in half an hour or more of intense stretching — the kind designed not just to warm things up but genuinely to increase range of motion. (Which reminds me I should do that now — I did 60 minutes of pretty intense yoga this morning [at a class taught by a Baptiste devotee — hard core stuff], and weights was yesterday.) I'm trying to push the flexibility pretty much everywhere: hamstrings and gastrocs; hip extension, flexion, abduction, and rotation; spinal rotation and flexion (I am not pushing extension, as I'm not sure that's so important); and shoulders (all axes, particularly the stuff that is affected by my previous issues and surgeries; this part is tricky because they're easy to damage.)


Cardio — yeah, still really none. I told myself I'd run today but then it started snowing. Meh. I suppose I could swim or something like that at the gym. Still meh.


Weights — Every other day when I can manage it; has averaged three/week, of the following:

Squats — one warmup set (135 pounds); three or occasionally four working sets (usually 185#; occasionally I feel like doing more but I'm not really interested in moving this number terribly high). I do it with a mirror and am careful to get pretty low (thighs parallel to floor). I work to failure minus one or occasionally two in most cases; for me that's 8–10 reps, which is what I shoot for with all exercises unless otherwise noted.

Note: I realize this and some of the other numbers for weights are not impressive compared with what some POGgers do. That's fine — for whatever reason, this is enough to give me a good workout. I used to do eight sets of squats with 490#; I'm quite pleased that I don't have to do that any more to get results.

Then A, B, and C in some order:

A: back — three sets pulldowns, 150#, ~10
— two or three sets cable rows, emphasizing traps and rhomboids (optional)

B: chest — either three sets dumbbell flies, 55# or so (60 if this is first), or three or four sets of pushups (feet on table, hands on medicine ball, emphasizing serratus anterior — but this is still to easy even doing 15 reps, unless B is late in the workout)
— two or three sets inclined dumbbell flies, usually with 45#

If I do no pushups, I will add three sets of scapula pushups (isolating serratus anterior) after chest and shoulders are each done. These are quick and take little energy, but may help me correct the imbalances in my shoulders.

C: shoulders — three sets standing oerhead dumbbell press with an embarrassingly small weight — given the weirdness with my shoulders, even 30# is a lot and sometimes even that amount stalls at the top, when the issue becomes scapular rotation. I really want to figure out what exactly the issue here is.

Supplement with one or occasionally two of E, F, and G:

E: arms (pulling) — three or usually four sets of dumbbell curls, of which two will be regular curls and one or two hammer curls; 30 pounds is enough by this point in the workout. (If I do this it comes immediately after back, whenever that is.)

F: arms (pushing) — three sets of tricep extensions, using two or three different grips, whatever weight feels right on the cable machine. Do this immediately after B and C, meaning they're pretty blown out to begin with.
— occasionally toss in a set or two of wrist curls or reverse wrist curls, but given everything else I'm doing I'm not sure these really help

G: rotator cuff physical therapy — each of the following three exercises, two sets each times ~15 reps:
— supraspinatus isolation raise
— shoulder external rotation (isolates infraspinatus and teres minor)
— shoulder internal rotation (isolates subscapularis)

Then (or later — this doesn't have to be done at the same time), abdominals: two sets of ~20 bicycle crunches, and two sets of 25–50 full leg raises with torso pre-curled.


My reading and experience suggest that the keys to this weight regimen are (1) doing as heavy weight as is is reasonable, and doing multi-joint exercises wherever possible, to get maximum release of HGH; (2) keeping the number of sets low and the workout short, preferably under 1.5 hours, to prevent cortisol levels from rising; and (3) working with free weights, ideally dumbbells, wherever possible to get maximum work on the supporting muscles.


Sigh. tl;dr, I guess. But it is a well, and someone may wonder.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:12 PM   #1418
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Oh, and it turns out that my regimen immediately after Kripalu will consist of immediately getting surgery to remove a bone spur at the base of my big toe, then resting while that heals. Yay. The problem has been there for years but the yoga has exacerbated it to the point where about ten days ago I could barely walk, until I got a cortisone shot — but they won't help forever.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:13 PM   #1419
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What's with all the eating? Aren't you supposed to have like one light meal of greens in the morning?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:18 PM   #1420
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What's with all the eating? Aren't you supposed to have like one light meal of greens in the morning?
In the book I have that includes the history of the school (it's a required text for the course), they say that for many years they were all vegetarian there ... until they determined that just about everyone was malnourished. Now they try to eat healthily, but they're not nuts about it. Except for the lack of coffee.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:42 PM   #1421
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:49 PM   #1422
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:33 AM   #1423
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I haven't read all of this well so I don't know what atak's loserdom is but I'm sure he's got nothing on me.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:58 PM   #1424
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Man, lack of coffee is not healthy by any real nutritional definition of the word. Must be some impurity thing.

Other than that seems really unique and cool.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:27 PM   #1425
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cutting out coffee seems to have helped my anxiety quite a bit
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