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Old 11-16-2009, 06:47 AM   #426
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Thank you. There is hope.

That's also the example used in An Incomplete Education, the book from which I believe I learned that. I recommend it.
Any other books you'd recommend? (any genre)
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:00 AM   #427
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One thing you didn't mention as one of your areas of expertise that I think you do very well is writing. Do you think that your extensive vocabulary is one of the reasons for this? Are there any other reasons you can think of?
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:15 AM   #428
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I really can't believe atak didn't become an expert typist just from the werewolf he's played.

I got really good just from playing starcraft

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Old 11-16-2009, 07:54 AM   #429
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brothers/sisters?

When was the first time you realized you were smarter than your parents(if you have had that experience)?

When was the first time you realized your parents were mortal and were going to die(if you had that)?

Ignore this last one if it potentially hurts to answer: can you describe what happens, how your behaviour changes when you get depressed?

ps. Thanks for the well.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:32 AM   #430
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I am curious how you reconcile your previously stated belief that business owners should be able to discriminate by race/gender when hiring with your opinion that large wealth disparities cause problem. It seems as though the creating of a permanent underclass would be an even bigger problem.

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The latest incident (wherein she killed me, a known power villager, as village vigilante rather than save another villager, because she was angry at me, then saying afterward that it was justified because I deserved it and after all she's a woman)
This whole quote, the gameplay, and the "justification" really makes me want to ban her from any game I mod.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:50 AM   #431
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I probably shouldn't even have answered the question about BEG. I don't want this to become unpleasnant for others, so let's please not get more into that.

It was my fault I realize. Sorry.


I'm in class; won't be answering questions until this afternoon. But y'all keep 'em coming.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:52 AM   #432
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What class are you taking/teaching?

What is your IQ? How accurate do you think IQ scores are?
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:26 PM   #433
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Taking tax preparation class - planning on doing tax prep as a part time thing this spring. Maybe I can even save some gamblers some money (assuming they report, of course) - gambling returns are very tricky. I'm in a basic class (right now - it's boring), but also taxing the IRS exam to become an enrolled agent, which allows a preparer to appear at audits on behalf of his client.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:42 PM   #434
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Are you a morning person? What are your typical awake hours?
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:17 PM   #435
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Wow. Amazing well. My only complaint is not enough bridge.

1. Got a famous bridge person story? Haven't seen one yet.

2. Everyone seems to say defense is the hardest part of bridge. Agree?

2a. I think right now, defense is my strength, and competitive auctions are my weakness.

3. Any advice for an advancing intermediate bridge player who lives 25 miles from the nearest club, seems to be in the wrong time zone to play with 2+2ers, and is trying to balance bridge with a family and 2 other hobbies (one constructive, one not so much)?
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:37 PM   #436
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yeah, tax inheritance at 100% and incentive drops, productivity and innovation and risk taking drops
Yep.

the day mom and dad died in that horrible car crash...

wait for it...

still wait for it imo...

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Old 11-16-2009, 01:42 PM   #437
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You sound like a really good dad. Also, I think it's a bad thing that your son is concerned with leaving his mom because he's worried about how she would feel. It's parents jobs to make their kids feel safe and happy, not the other way around. Your ex should be encouraging your son to do whatever it is that makes him happy, even if that means going to live with his dad. I agree that it's a good thing that he's concerned with her well-being, but he shouldn't be to the extent that he's going to live with her only out of guilt. That's very unhealthy for him. Have you considered talking to your ex about doing what's best for your son, not what's best for her?
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:53 PM   #438
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yeah, tax inheritance at 100% and incentive drops, productivity and innovation and risk taking drops
I don't know about risk taking, or productivity , however inheretence taxes that harsh is more of a "stupid" tax then a leveler - there will be exceptions on exceptions and only the poor will end paying it; the rich will find outs as usual.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:21 PM   #439
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the rich will find outs as usual.
3 of on the river for the rich one time!
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:35 PM   #440
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No, that one's new to me. Many years ago I used to get compared to Kurt Russell a lot, but he has aged terribly so I hope that was wrong.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:46 PM   #441
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I don't know about risk taking, or productivity , however inheretence taxes that harsh is more of a "stupid" tax then a leveler - there will be exceptions on exceptions and only the poor will end paying it; the rich will find outs as usual.
You haven't met me, it would seem — I could write the law such that there was no way out.

Or so I believe, anyway, but I admit that catching all contingencies is hard. the first "legal" thing I did was negotiation my parents' divorce settlement, when I was 22 or so. I thought I had captured everything — but the subsequent drop in the California housing market wasn't fully allowed for, and the result was not what we had intended. I've never forgotten how important it is to think through what is possible, not just likely, in making agreements.


And yes, the doctor is In. Will e catching up now (I hope).
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:51 PM   #442
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You sound like a really good dad. Also, I think it's a bad thing that your son is concerned with leaving his mom because he's worried about how she would feel. It's parents jobs to make their kids feel safe and happy, not the other way around. Your ex should be encouraging your son to do whatever it is that makes him happy, even if that means going to live with his dad. I agree that it's a good thing that he's concerned with her well-being, but he shouldn't be to the extent that he's going to live with her only out of guilt. That's very unhealthy for him. Have you considered talking to your ex about doing what's best for your son, not what's best for her?
Every day, pretty much, but that is a conversation that would do nothing but hurt him, as she would find a way to take to out on him.

Related: She decided earlier this year that he could not have a passport (both parents have to agree), at least for now, basically because she didn't trust me to keep in close contact with her about our plans and doesn't think foreign travel is important anyway. (I believe she's never been out f the country.) We got in one of our very infrequent fights, during which I said something less than nice; the result was that she decided she'd probably tack another year onto the period during which he's not allowed to leave the country.

So no, having a talk about whether the way she treats him is good for him is not an area into which I go often or easily.

The rest of what you said, I agree with 100%. He lacks for no material things, but his life is hard. Given that for now I cannot change that, I am proud of him for how he handles it: almost never complaining, and keeping in mind his mother's feelings, even at the expense of his own and even though he knows that it's bad for him. I certainly don't want him to do it (and have told him this), but I'm proud that he does.

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Edit: Re "really good dad" — I try, but I know I'm not perfect. I am patient but not infinitely so, sometimes I push him too hard, particularly re experiencing new things (which he simply hates, almost all the time), and when I am depressed it's hard to stay focused on him as much as I'd like (which is all the time). My own assessment is that I am a pretty good father.

Being a single parent, particularly a working parent not now, but in the past), and doing a good job of it sometimes feels nigh impossible. It's so much easier now that he's older, but a few years ag I was constantly afraid that I sucked at it. I didn't have money at the time so couldn't really afford help, so he came to work with me. (One very good thing about TPR is that they were always as nice as I could ever want about him being there; at one point my office manager in Austin actually suggested, unbidden, that he'd feel better if I would allow the company to pay one of the other teachers to be with I'm while I was teaching.)

Anyway, it has been a question I've considered for most of his life: am I a good father? Only in the last couple years have I decided that I probably am.

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Are you a morning person? What are your typical awake hours?
Goodness no, not a morning person. If I have no commitments that require otherwise my normal schedule always drifts to going to sleep around 3 am or so. If I'm sleeping relatively normally that has me up at 10ish, but when I'm manic this gets further messed up, as I will sometimes go for long stretches on just a few or even as little as two hours per night.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:11 PM   #444
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1 (from above) A weird thing that I can't explain well: I can hardly stand watching people kiss, including in movies. I think I feel like it's invading on a moment of intimacy that should be private, and I don't want to do it — but maybe it's just that I'm inwardly twelve and think it's gross, who knows. I have no problem watching sex, and appreciate porn for example, but physical expression of love make me uncomfortable (to watch, not to do).

I think one reason I like Lady and the Tramp so much is that for whatever reason I can watch the spaghettin scene and appreciate how beautiful it is without getting embarrassed and having to close my eyes or turn away (which I otherwise would do), because they're dogs. This in turn is weird because I love dogs so much — I'll drop everything and plop down on the ground or floor if I meet a dog who seems to want to kiss my face or sit in my lap, for example — but apparently affection from or among them is OK to watch.

Y'all getting by now that I'm a little off-kilter?
Not at all..

I can relate to a lot of this.

I´ll come up with some questions soon but still reading the thread right now. Some very interesting stuff.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:14 PM   #445
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I am curious how you reconcile your previously stated belief that business owners should be able to discriminate by race/gender when hiring with your opinion that large wealth disparities cause problem. It seems as though the creating of a permanent underclass would be an even bigger problem.
It's a problem. For 145 years we have pretended that people have equal opportunities, but it hasn't been anywhere close to true and we do have what seems to be a permanent underclass. My idea that we could level the starting field, ensuring access to education and trying to take away as much of the effect of rich parents, would help a lot, but it might not be enough. And given that I don't believe people have an absolute right to conduct business the way they want, I'd have to consider what was best, trading off freedom and equality. But if the leveling worked, allowing freedom, including freedom to discriminate, would be OK. I'd have to see whether there was de facto equality of opportunity, not just some empty paper right that never translated into reality.

(Before I moved to Texas I'd have said that this is exclusively an economic issue, but I met enough people there who genuinely pined for the days when their ancestors could own a ****** [and they'd say it that way] that I realize this is not a simple problem.)

Wrt to equality by sex, the problems are related though different, as men and women grow up in the same households — but we do have history of institutionally restricting rights on that basis, so I'd have to look at the effect once opportunities were equalized. I know that because of the power of class I'm much more inclined to intervene in matters of race than of sex.
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Not at all..

I can relate to a lot of this.
[re kissing etc. in movies]

I really thought I was the only one. Seriously — I've always thought it was bizarre, from an otherwise uninhibited person.
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I really can't believe atak didn't become an expert typist just from the werewolf he's played.

I got really good just from playing starcraft
God, you would think so. The finger damage (left index) doesn't help, but it's not like I was good before that.

Advice to any kids out there: Take typing/keyboarding/whatever the **** they call it now!
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yeah i'm sure kids are riveted
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:26 PM   #449
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This thread is a very nice read (or well, I must admit that I skip over some of the politics talk, but I can quickly add to this that I find myself agreeing with you on a lot of points if we ignore the kill a few billion people and 100 % inheritance tax stuff).

But seeing as you actually don't have a problem with spending time on criticizing people's WW game, I guess I'll add my name to the list of people who'd like your personal and player-specific advice. I think that I have been in all of the games that you have played the last 2˝ months, so hopefully you have a fresh memory regarding my game.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:28 PM   #450
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One thing you didn't mention as one of your areas of expertise that I think you do very well is writing. Do you think that your extensive vocabulary is one of the reasons for this? Are there any other reasons you can think of?
It's always been this way re vocab. When I was about fifteen we (the family) went through a dictionary seeing how many words we knew on random pages, and after about 30 pages extrapolating to an estimate of vocabulary. Mine was about 55,000. I love words. I learn words.

As for writing: That's related but different. I've always been able to write well; for example, I won statewide writing competitions when I was a kid, too. Unfortunately, writing well and writing easily are different. I hate writing, at least writing anything I have to write, and that gets paralyzing at times. I it comes off the top of my head (y'all see that in werewolf OPs and this well, for example) it seems always to be decent and flow well and all, but if it's an assignment I just shut down. My mother reminded me directly that it was thus even as far back as junior high, when I couldn't even bear to start writing assignments until late the night before the due date, even assignments that required days of work. Getting all As that way was not easy.

The problem continues today, and is problematic still. There is something lengthy I have to write before I can practice law, and I've tried for years to do it. I can't. It scares me, somehow. My writing is natural and easy and logical... and I can't do it, and I have paid an enormous price (years of unemployment) as a result.

That said, I think when I can write it comes out well because I can keep the logical structures straight almost regardless how complex they get. Then, I just say exactly what I'm thinking. That's the thing: the way I write is the way I think, so it's kind of cheating.

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