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01-17-2019 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Man, I really need to pay attention to song endings in future walruses...they are killing me here

10th place for sonic youth that is right in his wheelhouse, deserves to be in and isn’t a big hit AND he “really likes this song a lot...a whole lot...”

This is gonna be a rough walrus


If it was 30 seconds of noodling it would have been fine. 3 minutes is too much and really detracts from an otherwise great tune


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01-17-2019 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Yo La Tengo does this regularly, too. It drives me bonkers.


I mean they're the artists. There must have been some thought put into the ending. I just can't figure what that was


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01-17-2019 , 02:50 PM
9th Place-Jane's Addiction "Three Days"
Bolt2112


There is no mistaking this for anything other than a Jane's song. Perry's voice is, of course, unmistakeable. I like the way the song builds throughout. From what I gather from the lyrics this is about a multi day bender. So it starts gentle and softly. The music is almost hushed and Perry sings softly over it. Gradually the song gains in both intensity and volume and ends becoming a bit frenzied. This is supposed to mirror the gradual increasing craziness of a multi day bender. At the end the music is harder and the vocal delivery is louder and less "connected" in a way to the melody.
Pretty cool use of the pacing of the song to tie into the lyrical content of the song.

I listened to "Ritual" a lot back in the day but don't really think I listened to this track a lot. I would return to this song.

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HOF Worthiness: 2 points They certainly were huge and cast a shadow over the alt world. I think the problem with them is that they had 2 great records and then fractured. I honestly have not spent anytime on their post Porno for Pyros reunion records.

Song ranking: 7.5 points Very good song. Great pacing and Perry's vocals are on point

Genre Fit: 1.5 points This probably could have been a 2 but it wouldn't have changed the rankings. Fits the genre well.

Bonus Point: 1 point Would have been easy to pick something more mainstream. But this is a good entry

Total Points: 12 points
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01-17-2019 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IBeDrummin


Also was thinking of submitting either Sigur Ros or Tortoise. Sigur Ros is almost definitely getting in, so wasn't sure if they're a true snub. Tortoise is a founder of post-rock and has influenced tons of bands (and film composers) and have been around since 1990. But they'd no doubt fall lower on the sales spectrum and aren't wildly popular and those are two of your metrics.
Yeah Sigur Ros is a go to listen for me. I hear what you are saying about the snub label. Last year Radiohead was eligible and was not voted in. So that is egregiously laughable. But this year they were elected. They were always going in obv.

I guess if I had said bands that aren't yet in the HOF rather than simply snubs it would have been easier to understand the category.

I'll give those others a listen too.
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01-17-2019 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
Yeah Sigur Ros is a go to listen for me.


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I guess if I had said bands that aren't yet in the HOF rather than simply snubs it would have been easier to understand the category.
If that was the intent, then totally. No worries.
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01-17-2019 , 03:13 PM
We have a tie

7th Place-Motorhead "Ace of Spades"
PokerCrazy94
KarmaDope


I have always thought of this song as basically a punk rock song. It came out in 1980 and I remember hearing this as a kid in the 80's. They go fast and shred. There isn't a ton of the showboating that sometimes is present in a lot of metal (save a 30 second stretch in the middle). But the song just rips throughout. Lemmy's singing is perfect and the song blasts in under 3 mins. Plus Lemmy is cool...let's be honest.

I don't know much else about Motorhead tbh. I guess they are the bridge between punk rock and metal so they certainly have a strong influence on later speed oriented bands.

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HOF Worthiness: 3.5 points Certainly seems like they have a strong case. Big influencers, popular band, critically well received, etc.

Song Ranking: 8 points Just a kick ass song. I wish they would cut out the little solo in the middle and just bang it out but that's not a huge deal.

Genre Fit: 1 point They are a hard rock band but have elements of punk rock. So that gets them a point.

Bonus Point: 0 Points Nah. huge song nearly 40 years later.

Total Points: 12.5 Points
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01-17-2019 , 03:18 PM
wondering if i should have gone with a different song from the band i submitted

it's a personal favorite but might suffer from Don't Tell A Soul syndrome for bwslim (i.e., on a less critically acclaimed album slightly off of the band's generally agreed-upon peak)
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01-17-2019 , 03:19 PM
i mostly was looking for a song that showcased that ridiculous, buttery bassline, though, which i think my submission does
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01-17-2019 , 03:32 PM
6th Place-The Jam "Eton Rifles"
DonkDonkDonk


Now we are talking. This was a MASSIVE band in the UK but for whatever reason they just never became popular here in the States. I like The Jam a lot and was not surprised to see them as a submission. To me they are the bridge from straight punk to New Wave and many of their contemporaries are in the R&R HOF (The Cars, Blondie, Elvis Costello, etc).

This song was a hit though it paled in comparison to the popularity of some of The Jam's other hits (Town Called Malice, That's Entertainment,etc.)

I really like this song a lot. It maintains the band's punk energy but adds some new wave elements (keyboard in particular) and does so with an ear pleasing melody. If there are ny Brits in here can someone explain what he is singing about here?

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HOF Worthiness: 2.5 Points I would have thought a bit higher but the experts don't agree. They were clearly influential but perhaps the limited geography of their fame is a problem.

Song Ranking: 8.5 Points Great song as described above

Genre Fit: 2 Points No question

Bonus Point: 1 Point Just for not picking "Town Called Malice"

Total Points: 14 Points
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01-17-2019 , 03:34 PM
great submission by Donk
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01-17-2019 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
6th Place-The Jam "Eton Rifles"

DonkDonkDonk




Now we are talking. This was a MASSIVE band in the UK but for whatever reason they just never became popular here in the States. I like The Jam a lot and was not surprised to see them as a submission. To me they are the bridge from straight punk to New Wave and many of their contemporaries are in the R&R HOF (The Cars, Blondie, Elvis Costello, etc).



This song was a hit though it paled in comparison to the popularity of some of The Jam's other hits (Town Called Malice, That's Entertainment,etc.)



I really like this song a lot. It maintains the band's punk energy but adds some new wave elements (keyboard in particular) and does so with an ear pleasing melody. If there are ny Brits in here can someone explain what he is singing about here?



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HOF Worthiness: 2.5 Points I would have thought a bit higher but the experts don't agree. They were clearly influential but perhaps the limited geography of their fame is a problem.



Song Ranking: 8.5 Points Great song as described above



Genre Fit: 2 Points No question



Bonus Point: 1 Point Just for not picking "Town Called Malice"



Total Points: 14 Points
Eton is a private school where all the posh moneyed British boys go. It is about fighting the upper class
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01-17-2019 , 03:53 PM
5th Place-Soundgarden "Burden In My Head"
Elanor60


Soundgarden is another band I think I should like better than I do. I do think of them as one of the big three along with Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Other like bands just didn't reach the heights that these three bands did.

Some of their other stuff (while still good) is a bit heavier and less melodic to my ear. But I do like Chris's voice...a lot. He can sing rock and yet maintain a cool soul sound while doing it. This was a good selection from the band too. Perhaps this song was a bit too pop for big Soundgarden fans?

It's hard not to read deeper into the lyrics given Chris' subsequent issues.

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HOF Worthiness: 4.5 Points I have to think if another grunge/post-grunge band gets in this is it. Although they are not my favorite band I recognize they check all the boxes for entry and should be in there. I expect they will sooner rather than later.

Song ranking: 8 points This was the song to pick from the band no question.

Genre Fit: 2 Points Yup this is a band that hits my genre generally even if I don't love them. Ranking would not have changed even if I had docked them to 1.5 points

Bonus Point: .5 point This was a big hit in 1996 (I think??). Ubiquitous but not their biggest hit I don't think.

Total Points: 15 Points
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01-17-2019 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
Eton is a private school where all the posh moneyed British boys go. It is about fighting the upper class
Got that part...didn't realize it was a private school they were singing about tho
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01-17-2019 , 04:13 PM
4th Place-Nine Inch Nails "Wish"
eyebooger


I love, love, love Pretty Hate Machine. I believe 1989 was the best year for music in my lifetime and that album is a large part of why. But that album was probably more synth pop than what NIN morphed into. I confess I don't listen to this song a ton but it is a great one.

This song is straight ahead punk with an industrial feel. I really like the intro. You know what is coming and boy does it come. I love the loud/quiet/loud thing going on with the guitars. Trent's voice is perfect for this genre of music and complements the music really well. Frankly I like the verse a bit more than the chorus. Anyway, song still sounds fresh and unique to me nearly 30 years later.

This is a kick ass song in the gym too.

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HOF Worthiness: 5 points They should be in. No clue why they aren't

Song Ranking: 7.5 Points See above. Killer song.

Genre Fit: 2 Points Nailed it

Bonus Point: 1 Point Could have easily picked "Down in It" or "Head Like a Hole"

Total Points: 15.5 Points
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01-17-2019 , 04:15 PM
Podium and anti-podium incoming later! Gonna be a little while as I have to pick up the kids in a bit.
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01-17-2019 , 05:30 PM
oof pls podium
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01-17-2019 , 06:34 PM
This is the Sigur Ros song I would’ve submitted:
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01-17-2019 , 06:56 PM
Anti-Podium incoming!
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01-17-2019 , 07:07 PM
15th Place=Audioslave "Getaway Car"
Suqata8


I actually liked this song. I'll admit I wasn't really expecting to. As with the Soundgarden entry I really like Cornell as a vocalist. The music is sort of mellow and his soulful delivery matches that music well. It kind of has a blues/jazzy feel to me and I could see listening to it if it came on the radio. Doubt I'd seek it out much.

Problem with this submission is that it is a supergroup of sorts and I would think the members original bands are far more deserving of entry so not sure it qualifies as a snub per se.

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HOF Worthiness: 0 Points All talented musicians for sure but I don't think this is much of a snub.

Song Ranking: 6.5 Points Decent tune. The issue here isn't the song itself

Genre Fit: .5 Points I don't think it really fits too well. They are generally heavier rock and don't really sound like 80's or 90's band IMO

Bonus Point: 1 Point As best I can tell this is a little bit of a dig deep. Given that I did like the song a bit it gets the bonus

Total Points: 8 Points
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01-17-2019 , 07:17 PM
16th Place: Jethro Tull "Inside"
aaronk56


Did not really get this. I said in my write up that I found 70's hard rock boring and this fits that to a T. I mean it is better than some awful, droning Grateful Dead song but that is kind of what it reminds me of.

They clearly have a lot of fans and I guess they were fairly popular in the early 70's but this is one that I guess you had to be there or something. That flute is an interesting idea but I can't imagine listening to it too much



HOF Worthiness: 4 Points They seem very likely to get in.

Song Ranking: 3 Points I've said enough

Genre Fit: 0 Points Not close

Bonus Point: 1 Point As best I can tell this is not one of their bigger hits so Aaron at least took a shot

Total Points: 8 Points
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01-17-2019 , 07:20 PM
welp
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01-17-2019 , 07:28 PM
last place will come in a bit

3rd Place: Sonic Youth "Teenage Riot"
Jmurder3


I mean this is like he's reading my mind. Absolutely in my wheelhouse. Their best song. Jangly driving guitars, great lyrical delivery. Almost has an REM/Replacements feel to it. Less feedback and none of that terrible final 3 minutes from their previous entry.

This puts me right back in college just listening to this on repeat. It is perhaps overplayed but it is just a great song and deserving of it's place in rock history off an incredible record.

Note: I suspect JM3 had an advantage her to some extent due to participation in the LLSNL chat thread (aka The Pen). Would love to hear his thoughts as this is not his musical preference at all.

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HOF Worthiness: 4.5 Points See Mote

Song Ranking: 9 Points Late 80's perfection

Genre Fit: 2 Points Of Course

Bonus Point: 0 Points This is there best known song so no bonus

Total Points: 15.5 Points
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01-17-2019 , 07:28 PM
These write-ups are really good
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01-17-2019 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SuqAta8
welp
Sorry
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01-17-2019 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
These write-ups are really good
Trying to butter me up?

Final 2 podiums and last place will have to come later. Off to coach my daughter's ball team.
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