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like sure, as a wolf I could, in theory, go after kami two days in a row and push hard against a filthy lunch d2 even though it was an easy easy easy easy mislunch

but just because I COULD do those things as a wolf doesn't mean I am a wolf

it just means that they were universes where I am not a villager

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06-23-2021 , 12:30 PM

#2877

bsball8806

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I kind of think you are both villagers and both wolves

sigh

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06-23-2021 , 12:31 PM

#2878

Esooa

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Originally Posted by A missread issue

esooa when did you develop your bird/monte w/w reads?

not gonna upload the current one but the ones re:monte haven't changed so

boop

The orange means they could be partners, and it's within Kami/Birdman/IRTM/JM

I think JM isn't with Kami and lightly unaligned to Monte (though I didn't clear it)

So I've been pretty much thinking all game since then it's Monte/Birdman+1 or not Monte

Reinforced by what I read night 2 ofc

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06-23-2021 , 12:31 PM

#2879

Esooa

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actually that reminds me that's part of why I softened my Monte scum read

Because during SoD2 I had birdman as town, and so thought Monte was less likely wolf

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06-23-2021 , 12:32 PM

#2880

iraisetoomuch

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Why would you intentionally not give us your current thinking?

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06-23-2021 , 12:32 PM

#2881

Esooa

adept

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I really haven't seen esooa make a case on me yet

she spent a lot of the morning saying why the things I did that were villagery could in fact be done by a wolf (which like, ok fine, i agree)

but not why that makes me a wolf

I feel like the only "case" she has had against me is that when I started interrogating her she felt that my interrogation wasn't good

but again that is after she has been calling me a wolf for a while for "reasons"

well then get ****ed because I'm not going to deal with your pathetic fighting with any case I'm going to make today considering you're not up for votes soon and I'm not dying soon anyways

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06-23-2021 , 12:35 PM

#2882

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by bsball8806

I kind of think you are both villagers and both wolves

sigh

im still mostly in the kami --> SA --> ?? line

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06-23-2021 , 12:37 PM

#2883

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by Esooa

well then get ****ed because I'm not going to deal with your pathetic fighting with any case I'm going to make today considering you're not up for votes soon and I'm not dying soon anyways

well at least you agree you haven't provided any basis for your read

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06-23-2021 , 12:39 PM

#2884

Esooa

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

well at least you agree you haven't provided any basis for your read

I think you're pretty much hard PoE when Monte flips wolf so yeah, I'm just not interested in it right now

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06-23-2021 , 12:42 PM

#2885

Birdman10687

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it’s funny to me how clear bsball is

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06-23-2021 , 12:44 PM

#2886

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by Esooa

I think you're pretty much hard PoE when Monte flips wolf so yeah, I'm just not interested in it right now

you must think i’m a pretty good wolf

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06-23-2021 , 12:48 PM

#2887

Esooa

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

you must think i’m a pretty good wolf

the only reason I town read you day 1 is cause you made slightly towny progressions in your reads lol

but sure, we can say that

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06-23-2021 , 01:01 PM

#2888

Luckbox Inc

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Votes from post 2461 to post 2887
Night in 7:59:56
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	Kawamii	EnderW (80), iraisetoomuch (34)
1	A missread issue	bsball8806 (48)
6	not voting	A missread issue (8), Birdman10687 (86), Esooa (90), Kawamii (0), Montecore (50), SomeonesAlt (27)

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06-23-2021 , 01:02 PM

#2889

Montecore

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Originally Posted by Esooa

I think you're pretty much hard PoE when Monte flips wolf so yeah, I'm just not interested in it right now

What about when I flip villager (though that would require my lunch since it seems an NK is somewhat unlikely, and my pride isn't going to let me get mislunched)

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06-23-2021 , 01:04 PM

#2890

Montecore

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bsball, can you just cliff me on where you are wrt AMI/JM; I see you're still voting them, but have real difficulty constructing any scenario where they're actually a wolf for reasons I've elaborated on a number of times

If I'm missing something, please enlighten me

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06-23-2021 , 01:06 PM

#2891

Montecore

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IRTM, was now-ish when we were to expect a jump in your participation due to the non-camera meeting?

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06-23-2021 , 01:09 PM

#2892

Montecore

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One thing I'll say for esooa is that I at least believe she cares who gets lunched, which is more than I can say for a number of people in the POE

One of the reasons I'm so zoned in on SA is that he has a shitload of posts and hasn't managed to affect the game in any meaningful way I can recall

Maybe I should actually fully reread the lead up to maj yesterday, since I kind of remember someone (kami?) goading LoS into the hammer. Seems important enough to make sure though

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06-23-2021 , 01:16 PM

#2893

iraisetoomuch

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Originally Posted by Montecore

IRTM, was now-ish when we were to expect a jump in your participation due to the non-camera meeting?

Jump? No. But I will follow through with my promise to develop a read on bird. I think I've been reasonably engaged today already.

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06-23-2021 , 01:20 PM

#2894

Montecore

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This is more for me, since I know no one else is going to read this:

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Why are the wolf trying to maj me when I'm asleep

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

filthy

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Bro you didn't make a case you quoted villagery posts and called them wolfy with no reasoning

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Votes from post 1532 to post 2377
Night in 2:17:01
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VotesLynchVoters
4 filthyvermin iraisetoomuch (22), Montecore (69), bsball8806 (114), Kawamii (29)
2 Kawamii filthyvermin (66), A missread issue (8)
2 Birdman10687 Esooa (65), SomeonesAlt (150)
1 SomeonesAlt Birdman10687 (122)
1 iraisetoomuch Legacy of Smiles (102)
1 not voting EnderW (69)

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Originally Posted by Legacy of Smiles

Don't tempt me with that hammer lol.

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

You guys call me a wolf for no reason for like 4 games in a row only siu actually attempt to read me properly so yeah

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

good morning!!

who are your teammates? someonesalt is one, right? is birdman the other.

were you all cracking up at the v/v wagons last night?

why did you kill siu? was it for the ender peek and strong player kill?

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Also filthy wagon is all villagers

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Originally Posted by Esooa

filthyvermin

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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch

Filthy, do you think you've been villagery this game?

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Another wolf outting them self to vote me rip

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

not really feeling the filthy lunch, team

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Originally Posted by bsball8806

unvote

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Votes from post 1532 to post 2426
Night in 1:59:55
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VotesLynchVoters
4 filthyvermin iraisetoomuch (25), Montecore (69), Kawamii (38), Esooa (68)
2 Kawamii filthyvermin (72), A missread issue (8)
1 SomeonesAlt Birdman10687 (136)
1 Birdman10687 SomeonesAlt (150)
1 iraisetoomuch Legacy of Smiles (108)
1 unvote bsball8806 (116)
1 not voting EnderW (74)

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Wolves could just be easy Ami/filthy/mac
If game isn't over maybe birdman/irtm

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

I've never seen filthy play like this as villager super different to the point I'm shocked more people haven't voted

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

Filthy

Go ahead wiml.

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Originally Posted by Legacy of Smiles

Filthy

Told you so.

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Votes from post 1532 to post 2456
Night in 1:46:58
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VotesLynchVoters
6 filthyvermin iraisetoomuch (26), Montecore (69), Kawamii (42), Esooa (69), SomeonesAlt (154), Legacy of Smiles (112)
2 Kawamii filthyvermin (76), A missread issue (8)
1 SomeonesAlt Birdman10687 (136)
1 A missread issue bsball8806 (123)
1 not voting EnderW (78)

*** MAJORITY LYNCH IN POST 2453 ***

Cliffs:
-Wolves almost certainly realized filthy was the seer after he addressed kami like he did
-Birdman's contemporaneous reluctance to push filthy is probably villagery in a vacuum and definitely villagery with that in mind
-bsball unvoting filthy as maj approached the first time is fairly villagery, but he's been villagery otherwise
-kami appeared to induce the esooa vote on filthy; whether they was a genuine pocket by w!kami or w/w theater is hard to parse
-SA inducing the hammer from LoS is blatant open-wolfing

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06-23-2021 , 01:33 PM

#2895

iraisetoomuch

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Originally Posted by Esooa

pretty sure Wiml knows why I'm town atm

Why was this btw?

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06-23-2021 , 01:34 PM

#2896

iraisetoomuch

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

monte/ender/bird are all lock clear

Saving this for later. I'm working on something.

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06-23-2021 , 01:35 PM

#2897

bsball8806

bff with birdman

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

fwiw bsball this is why I am frustrated you came in and started feeding her lines

Yeah I mean maybe but Esooa is more than capable of making excuses on her own and I was kind of growing impatient, sitting there watching you argue, without putting in my thoughts

I see your point though

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

btw just as an aside, this is patently untrue

it's the opposite

i often lament that it is impossible to tell the difference a lot of the time, at least for me

maybe other people can do it but it is definitely not something I am good at

What I should have said was - you pride yourself on not seeing it as a strict wolf tell. Which I see now you are at least acknowledging but it seemed earlier you were deep in the tunnel about esooa.

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06-23-2021 , 01:36 PM

#2898

iraisetoomuch

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

None of you are playing your village game?

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

articulate why

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

your benchmark for what equates to my village game is 1 post capped 50 ppd game. You have no basis for this read.

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

and if you had benchmark for my wolf game you'd have even less basis because I am the least polarised player you'll have ever encountered.

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Why does a post cap matter it literally doesn't btw

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

kami sucks gang assemble

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

of course it matters... it was a game atypical to my common town game

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

can u stop sucking ur own dick

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

the feeble perceive confidence as arrogance

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

god u make me wanna puke

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

someonesalt

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

you sound envious of my glory

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

nice fake read wolf the post wasn't wolfy at all

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Nothing to be envious of when im POG TURBO CHAMPION 2016

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

don't make me show you my ribbons

This whole thing feels strongly performance art.

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06-23-2021 , 01:37 PM

#2899

bsball8806

bff with birdman

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

it’s funny to me how clear bsball is

lol yeah how did this even happen? i had kind of a shady EOD both days lol

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Originally Posted by Montecore

unvote this was before i reread EOD D1

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06-23-2021 , 01:37 PM

#2900

iraisetoomuch

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Originally Posted by SomeonesAlt

when they hard claim seer

Awkward.

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