i would never ever ever fps a nk in the wolves' spot to give montecore some days, especially if my team is already pretty much POE'd down.

I could think of doing that if at least one of the wolves was in deep cover. otherwise not trying to hit the seer would make the game even easier.

I really really think you're playing a very bad villager game. mostly one of us has to be absolutely wrong about a lot of things and if I'm right you're not even close to POE the wolves here.

which, if your description of your villa game is correct, kinda makes you more likely to be a wolf than not I guess? anyway I can be wrong about one wolf tops here I think.

Dude you have a huge ego

And yet you couldn't even find a wolf in that last game we played

Maybe you should consider the fact that you're just wrong

I do have a big ego sometimes.

I think your reads are very off here though

anarchist
well named
montecore

maybe????

Your logic has been terrible most of the game

Or you have been lying and are a wolf

I believe it is the former

all right then

what are your peeks?

No offence meant but you've "POE'd" just about everyone in the game as a wolf at one time or another for thin or no reasons, and you're clearing half the game for reasons you won't share and I suspect you simply don't have. I've never seen you do this as a villager and I'm a bit shocked. I understand that you're thinking on the fly, which is cool, and evolving reads, also cool, and a lot of it is just the language you're using.

I think you could easily have only one wolf. I don't even know why Anarchist is supposed to be one now. Just because he had Monte in a villager list?

He's already said what they are this morning.

it's been 10 pages that I have two wolves basically locked up and flipping on the other one.

I don't understand how you're giving me **** for flipping my reads when the game started. it's a bit ridiculous.

I really liked what rebonk said earlier today actually. I might disagree here and there with his reads but how he's seeing the game doesn't seem unreasonable.

on chilltown and vix?

We haven't lynched a wolf yet.

isn't that a drag

also whose fault was that? heh

and yeah it is the lynchee's fault.

Across the board, I liked his approach and how he's making his reads. If he's wolfing, he's doing it in a way that I strongly approve of

He's made reads it's hard to back away from and his approach has been pretty consistent throughout. You're lock clearing tweedy, for contrast, but he's basically tunnelled and made quasi reads. Mets is even worse. His tone is villagey enough but his reads are on the whole inexplicable.

See, you might ask, how come Mets "peeked" your wolf villager? How did he get it so wrong? Or if you peeked him, did he? Is he right and you wrong?

i don't shirk accountability, dude. I got him lynched. Yeah, he volunteered but I pushed him and I accept that I was wrong.

Curiously, I don't feel very sorry. He was playing in a way that would keep him a question mark. Which I do think is on him because I thought he was a villa early and he turned that around by simply refusing to do anything in the least bit villagey.

my read on mets doesn't come from how right or wrong I think he is.

my read on tweedybirdd also doesn't come from how right or wrong I think he is.

with both players I think I have some reasonable meta to have them cleared. mets is wrong on a lot of stuff lately, and if he misses a fakepeek it gets even worse. I saw him lynching people as v/v just for disagreeing with him on a read. also you know that about mets, why would you ever took him as an example of someone who could be a wolf for being wrong or making reads that don't seem to come from a mindset you particularly understand? if you know mets or played with him, you know how he behaves as a villager.

well named spent the ENTIRE d1 EOD talking about anything but the wagons. his last reads were like something about xkf being a villager. he is not wolfhunting, he is not gamesolvey, some of his pushes are pretty weird (especially the vix one), a lot of his posts show he is having a pretty hard time connecting with the thread (which is an actual wolf tell) and his progression on montecore is very very wolfy. I mean he called monte villagery and then went like 'oh but everyone else is so i approve of montecore/rebonkulous wagons'. still rebonk thinks well named is a villager because he hasn't really explained his vote on rebonk. isn't that curious.

tweedy has been consistently mindmelding with me throughout d1. he wasn't tunneling on montecore either. if your read on someone is strong enough that it just doesn't change throughout the day, you keep your read on that person. tunneling involves not being able to look at the bigger picture and realise other points in someone's game that may make him not a wolf. not just calling out someone from being incredibly wolfy everytime he makes a wolfy post, right.

anyway, chilltown is out of his wolf range OR he improved so much so fast he is by far the best wolf on POG. that seems pretty unlikely.

vixticator is mostly the same thing. also I've been reading vix right a lot, I don't think I'm ever wrong about his affiliation here.

Way to blow your seer cover. Oh well.

I don't think Mets can be a wolf for being wrong. What I suggested was that you should be nightkilled if:

a/ Birdie is right
and
b/ you are right
and
c/ Wolves feel either of you has a chance to be seer.

so we have to consider one of those things is wrong.

And what I was saying is, if you'd peeked him, you know he's sincere, so you need to ask "why does he differ from me?" It's part of the game. If you are ~certain someone is a villager, you allow their reads to influence you. If you differ, you try to figure out why. That helps you make reads, right?

Consider though. They could all be right, but it's worth thinking about.

It's just one piece of the puzzle.

You say at top of your post that your read on tweedy has nothing to do with how right or wrong he is, then say your read on him is based on mindmelding. So to do with how right you think he is! Anyway, tunnelling is precisely pushing one read to the exclusion of others, which is what he did. It's not just not changing your read. My read on Monte hasn't changed. I have had him as a wolf all along.

Why is Chilltown out of his wolf range? Can you be a bit specific? Also vix. I have my reasons for thinking he's a villa, but why do you think he's lock clear? I think he has a fairly wide range for both roles, so why do you think he's way out of his villa range? (Remember that you're not really convincing me, we share this read, but it's for others to read what you have to say and let that influence their own judgement.)

I get it btw. Nothing blown because you post stuff like that to throw wolves off.

mindmelding with my reads is a bit different than 'i think he is right about x and y and z'. mindmelding is when the timing, post and reasoning fits mine completely.

vix is a villager because he is like incapable of posting anything villagery as a wolf. seriously, his range is not wide at all. give me a single good wolf game vix played in the past 4 months and i'll give you at least 5 where he mostly just mailed it in.

chilltown is really loud usually but he is really really loud as a villager and he is a lot less involved with the thread as a wolf. check his posts in the... election game. he was wolfing with soah and monikrazy there. he basically bussed moni d1, did nothing d2 and died. i'm playing with chilltown a lot lately and a lot more than everyone ITT except for vix I think? I know his game pretty well imo. I don't have to quote his posts, there is a flow in my recent games as v/v with chilltown that is suffering no change for this game. if he is a wolf here he is probably the best player on POG now (not that I think he is even particularly far from it )

and yeah I blown my seer cover talking about why well named is a wolf. because seers are like uncapable of doing that stuff heh

i am going into antispew mode

howl

partially because i still disagree with 100% of hardcores wolf list.

and partially because i didnt sleep well

and partially because i just got offer 50 bucks to do a job that im gonna do

after today's lynch i will have a much clearer head and be able to participate more

but i dont feel like it today, esp when all of your minds are made up, and me participating will derail the comradrie and will not change the result

analyze away at this post if you must.

im sure i will pop back in

but my goal is to try and stay away until at least 6 pm

I did?

Funny because I dont leave peeks day 1, and I haven't left any peeks yet

Don't misconstrue my reads for peeks

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