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12-28-2012 , 07:04 AM
Yes bout where I'm at now hardcore
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12-28-2012 , 07:06 AM
right

well i think calling wn a villager is kinda villagery although your general content ISN'T because it's just a spot where most wolves would be pretty scared to bus.

if the wolf is not you it almost has to be annie though. not seeing anyone else that can fill that spot.
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12-28-2012 , 07:07 AM
The thing is, I might say about tweedy, I think he makes good reads. But I say that because I think he does, not because I peeked him.

But if I peeked him, would I ever say "I hope I'm not wrong"? Well, I might if I was the seer, because it's precisely not seery to secondguess your peek. It's the kind of mistake people make with their seer cover that lets you exclude them.

So he has to be on like level 2. And wolves on level 3 or just missed it.

It's pretty academic, but I do like to try to figure out why someone was nightkilled and not someone else.

It's like, you can count out the people who got their peeks wrong, and people like Chill who just flat out blew their cover, but that may leave four, five people who are credible. So which one do the wolves choose and why?

See, in retrospect, if Monte is a villa, it's a disaster to kill mets or Xkf. I should probably have thought more about that last night. If he's a wolf though, why not kill mets? It tends to clear the obvious lynch from today and kills your peek.

So hmmmm, that's something to think about.
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12-28-2012 , 07:07 AM
*pretty scared not to bus, I mean.
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12-28-2012 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
right

well i think calling wn a villager is kinda villagery although your general content ISN'T because it's just a spot where most wolves would be pretty scared to bus.

if the wolf is not you it almost has to be annie though. not seeing anyone else that can fill that spot.
It should make a lot of sense to bus well named if they're both wolves and mets is not one?
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12-28-2012 , 07:10 AM
I think tweedy is fakepeeking montecore wolf on d1 fwiw.

that has some weight on the NK.

if we got this game so ******edly well POE'd down the wolves absolutely need to fps to have any shot at winning, they still need to worry about how likely it is that the wolf they're FPSing is peeked.

and tbh unless mets flips EXACTLY seer when he gets nked we still 100% lynch monte a lot here precisely because of what you said.

also fwiw I've done things like pushing/voting my peek, making a slight wolf case against the peek to then just go ahead and peek him, because wolves level themselves into killing someone else. it's a meta i plan to always have when I'm a villager as well.
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12-28-2012 , 07:11 AM
also considering how bad monte played d1 I don't think the wolves would fps to clear him.
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12-28-2012 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
It should make a lot of sense to bus well named if they're both wolves and mets is not one?
I don't even think it does, I just think wolves would be scared not to bus wn here.
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12-28-2012 , 07:18 AM
Monkey I think the wolves probably chose to take a hero shot rather than make a spew control nk.
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12-28-2012 , 07:21 AM
I also think fpsing the kill to shc montecore is realllllly bad because it will never hold up.
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12-28-2012 , 07:22 AM
BLS was clear, his reads were cool, he made good cover

idk, seems decent to me
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12-28-2012 , 07:23 AM
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I also think fpsing the kill to shc montecore is realllllly bad because it will never hold up.
yeah that's so true. montecore never gets to be the lategame wolf against this lineup and he probably gets lynched at any random f3 regardless.
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12-28-2012 , 07:25 AM
tweedy, just to be sure

mets
vix
chilltown
monkey
tweedy
xkf
hardcore


are all clear, amirite?

so wolves are in annie/rebonkulous/well named/montecore

do we have any reason to be suspicious about any of the green players?
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12-28-2012 , 07:27 AM
yeah that's where I'm at
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12-28-2012 , 07:28 AM
ok cool

this gameday is about clearing one of rebonkulous/anarchist mostly then
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12-28-2012 , 07:36 AM
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game is easy

chilltown
hardcore
monte
monkey
tweedy

lynch everyone else and we win
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chilltown, birdie, mets, tweedy, hardcore all villas

BOOM
first one was around the time monte was getting some heat.

second one was when monte was getting a looot of heat.

there are the SOD posts where I said 'careful about the tmi slip' and he got overly aggressive because of that. then monte was going 'oh idk what this is about'.

monte was kind of softpushing annie early, but I think this is mostly meaningless. although he was pushing annie the same way he was pushing LKJ early on.

hmmmmmmm blergh not enough

I really need this d2
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12-28-2012 , 07:36 AM
how good is rebonk as a villager?

how good is rebonk as a wolf?

does anyone know?
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12-28-2012 , 07:38 AM
'boom' was kind of ridiculous
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12-28-2012 , 07:42 AM
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I also think fpsing the kill to shc montecore is realllllly bad because it will never hold up.
i really disagree with this. Id consider it for sure
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12-28-2012 , 07:47 AM
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yeah that's so true. montecore never gets to be the lategame wolf against this lineup and he probably gets lynched at any random f3 regardless.
he doesnt have to be late game wolf. He just has to not get lynched for a couple days. Also, to think about is this: if your peek is good and you might be seer iyo, wolves should kill you
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12-28-2012 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
tweedy, just to be sure

mets
vix
chilltown
monkey
tweedy
xkf
hardcore


are all clear, amirite?

so wolves are in annie/rebonkulous/well named/montecore

do we have any reason to be suspicious about any of the green players?
i think you are clearing people way too light. We need to lynch a wolf before we decide the game is solved.
Ive just given a reason to think about mets for instance and plenty of others have question marks
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12-28-2012 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
how good is rebonk as a villager?

how good is rebonk as a wolf?

does anyone know?
He is often tangential to the game. Not easy to read. He's very smart and can see what's going on. He can be frustrating or brilliant, sometimes both in the same game.

^ just my view though, ymmv
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12-28-2012 , 08:24 AM
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i think you are clearing people way too light. We need to lynch a wolf before we decide the game is solved.
Ive just given a reason to think about mets for instance and plenty of others have question marks
well I don't have 4 days to solve the game... also none of my villa leans are really light. if you ask me about anyone that I'm putting in green here I can explain with detail why they're always villagers. not that I will, though. right now my main concern is with annie and rebonk.
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12-28-2012 , 08:27 AM
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He is often tangential to the game. Not easy to read. He's very smart and can see what's going on. He can be frustrating or brilliant, sometimes both in the same game.

^ just my view though, ymmv
Probably the most accurate description you'll get

Imo I'm good at both

Almost never get mislynched as villa. Only once have been legitimately after my first two games ever, only because dean and herbie were wolves and owned the village. Also once subbed in to a game an got mislynched that day but wasn't my fault, my predecessor sucked
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12-28-2012 , 08:28 AM
Also my villa reads are alway way more accurate than my wolf reads. I clear villas and poe wolves. It's how I roll
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