Like, we talkin' bout well named here. The guy can literally muse about the inner-workings of the Hungarian government and everyone will be like "nbd br0".

this post is absurd on so many levels

he sounds like a rambling meth addict

hmmmmmm

I think he was very very obvious in breaking bad. I have even read one of his stellar wolf performances, but he hasn't been that sharp lately I guess? maybe I'm taking WN for granted for believing he would actually write that bizarre post pushing vix (and a couple of others) as a wolf, but right now I'm taking those as precisely the kind of posts he made in breaking bad.

Votes as of post 878
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
3	vixticator	Anarchist (61), metsandfinsfan (72), Montecore (63)
3	well named	BirdieLongSocks (74), Chilltown (96), hardcoreUFO (82)
2	tweedybirdd	vixticator (109), Xkf (31)
2	Xkf	LKJ (37), Monkey Banana (73)
1	hardcoreUFO	rebonkulous (84)
1	Monkey Banana	well named (26)
1	Montecore	tweedybirdd (66)
0	not voting

If you want a vote count before noon, you'll have to do it yourself. Peace out.

vixt have you come around on montecore

anyone awake to go over some stuff?

i am here

I find this to be the type of softpushes villagers make more often than wolves. not only rebonkulous is right that montecore is not posting anything meaningful, the way he is doing that is either an entirely awesome replication of a villagery thought process as a wolf or he is just a villager.

what rebonkulous is suggesting is that he looked at the postcount and got surprised and suspicious that montecore made so many posts when he can't really remember anything monte posted. I think wolves tend to have slightly more raw thought processes and not hide their actual leans behind intricated fake thoughts that suggests they're villagers. if he thought, as a wolf, that monte was softposting a lot, he would probably just say 'monte is softposting a lot' or whatever if he was a wolf, and not hide that behind a 'so I looked at the postcount and this is what my wolfy memory tells me...'. wolves might generally look at postcounts to see who they shouldn't be pushing as well.

anyway at first I just thought this was resonably villagery and kinda too crafty to come from a wolf. on re-read not only it is villagery, it's also spot on.

so rebonkulous can go to my lock villa pile for this and some other posts I liked.

what the hell is that reaction

does xkf hard defend like this? they posted at the same time which means xkf didnt have much time to hesitate and made a on the moment decision as a wolf or he firmly belives it as a villa.

I cleared both of them for it my first read but now i dont like it,,, lolpeerpressure

I find that thing from rebonk ~role neutral.

You kind of explained why a villager might say it or why a wolf might say it. Wolves do "scene setters", so that someone else can pick it up and run with it (et voila! here you are, picking it up). But villagers are thinking, who's doing what?

It would probably have been more meaningful if we'd have asked him, what made you check the post count?

I guess I can see why WN thought that comment was villagery tone-wise. xkf's response is nonsensical (like his laughter to monte was).

ughhhhh

these interactions are really weird, mostly from xkf's part. I think both with monte and with well named he felt forced to respond in some way but didn't exactly knew how to. the 'second post' post looks like someone trying to make something up to keep the interaction going. the 'eh allright' looks like it's on the same page.

interesting to note he has some fine interactions with other players as well, like mets and birdie. weirdly, his interactions with well named and montecore are all nonsensical.

yeah I just simply disagree entirely that wolves do that in general. good ones do, and still don't sound as free flowy imo.

On the one hand, it's interesting that he suggests you look elsewhere instead of saying "that feeling is wrong" or something plainer like that.

On the other, it's kind of obvious why Xkf hard defends him like that and again, we could have approached that in a different way by not mentioning it and watching to see whether Xkf backs off it.

postcount was a few posts before he made that comment. he just looked at it and gave his impressions.

It's totally within rebonk's compass as a wolf, and I think I'm going to have to disagree with you on the principle. Wolves softpush all the time and they do it in precisely this kind of way.

You know why? It's not really answerable. What could Montecore ever say to it? Someone says they don't recall what you've posted, they're talking about what they recall. It's their impression. You challenge them, and say, well I've posted tons of content, and they can say, well, I haven't noticed, and the bad taste remains.

Okay, fair enough. That makes some difference.

So I'm looking through Xkf again, will mq in a sec.

yeah, it makes sense to say that as a wolf, but the thinking process behind it is difficult to fake IMO and I explained it to the best extent I can. you're just making this argument impossible because we're entering a terrain where everything you say is basically unfalsifiable. probably better to just drop it.

So my big impression is that if he's a wolf he's doing it wrong. He gives away too many villagers and would find it hard to row back on them.

I missed quoting his entry, where he gave mets as a villager.

Kind of lame read but it's out there and it's not a "peek", so he's still got to give one of them if he's a wolf.

Not explained at this point but committed and he backs it up later.

To LKJ. Quite a villagey progression. There's really nothing in it for a wolf to come out firm at first and then back away. You either give the villager away or you don't.

To mets. He's already given mets as a villager and here he's engaging him neutrally but aggressively.

Another village read.

About rebonk. I can see this perspective even if I don't totally agree.

About Montecore.

Confirms Monte=villa and this seems an okay response to pressure.

Villagey and I can't see xkf/lkj as w/w at all.

If Xkf is a wolf, mets is a sure villager. This is a genuine attempt to discuss with mets. They cannot be w/w imo.

This is super hard to fake and most wolves don't think to do it.

About LKJ. What's of note is that he complains about the read on rebonk. Why fight another's read of your mislynch???

Very telling.

Xkf/LKJ is impossible for w/w. Again, this strikes me as quite a villagey approach.

Here he challenges something Hardcore says about LKJ. It's quite sharp.

About rebonk.

About Montecore. Birdie noted this and ofc it looks like a peek in isolation but he's already given mets villa so this is really a hard defence. I'm not sure what to make of it but it's bold if they're w/w.

Firm reads.

Firm again.

On reread, I'm kind of thinking that this could be a villager. He doesn't back off his reads, they're firm and he's willing to get aggressive to back them up.

Gonan unvote for now and can only really see him as a wolf if it's him/monte and even then, I dunno that I like it much.

Yeah, that's cool. We just see the thinking a bit differently. Different experiences, different beliefs about the game. Hopefully, I've read you right and we'll get a good synthesis of our ideas and win that way.

These two posts don't go well together:

Potential wolves:

Click through to see the reads list he's responding to. It doesn't match the reads he's given imo. But he has no questions bar Hardcore? (Too high, I guess.)

Nice open minded mq MB.

Where are you on annie? I thought his start was okay with a video and what not, but then it became more of a focus on vix, which seems very easy in retrospect.

Annie's been consistent with his villager game afaik

He tunnels in both roles and yeah, vix is an easy target but I didn't hate how he went about it as much as I did some others.

What's your view?

me deciding not to sleep last night makes it real hard to focus when rereading, at the same time i feel lazy seeing all the work you guys put in.

give me a few min and i´ll try to make a coherent mq