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12-27-2012 , 01:11 AM
Is Xkf a good wolf?

I've never seen him wolf but I feel like he would be.
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12-27-2012 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
I'll explain it for you:

The way you were addressing other players (I think vixt in particular) was non-commital and wasn't directly relevant to their roles in this game. You seemed to be leaning on meta and you were disconnected from the thread. Does that satisfy you?

Now, your toan is obv way different and you're back to your combative self. We shall see how it pans out.
I start the game in the same way every game and people say the same thing. I'm not particularly good at tone reads and don't try to solve the game on the first page. Or the first day.

I've been fully committal with vix throughout. I think he's likely a villager and I'm addressing him as a fellow villager. I asked him not to be random if he was one.
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12-27-2012 , 01:14 AM
Judging by the Hobbit, Xkf is a terribad wolf. Was he once a wolf with me in a vanilla and we lynched him fairly early or am I misremembering?

Annie, I felt like his posting was agenda driven. I think he can do volume as a wolf too.
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12-27-2012 , 01:14 AM
monkey,

I didnt like his start

He came back after a long **** and started interacting with monte

I gave both big plusses on that...cant really put my finger on why but i take it just want to try to establish dominance
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12-27-2012 , 01:14 AM
monkey

how can you read vix as strong villa?
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12-27-2012 , 01:16 AM
everyone has posted already

thats good
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12-27-2012 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
I start the game in the same way every game and people say the same thing. I'm not particularly good at tone reads and don't try to solve the game on the first page. Or the first day.

I've been fully committal with vix throughout. I think he's likely a villager and I'm addressing him as a fellow villager. I asked him not to be random if he was one.
Well I remembered you lecturing people quite early in the last game we played, so your entrance didn't really jibe with my experience with your villa game.

I disagree on vixt and think his heavy trolling is straight out of his wolf game. It's obvious when he's really make an effort to work out people's roles and when he's just derping around imo. I have an open mind though.
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12-27-2012 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
monkey,

I didnt like his start

He came back after a long **** and started interacting with monte

I gave both big plusses on that...cant really put my finger on why but i take it just want to try to establish dominance
Okay, thanks. I sort of flicked through earlier and didn't get that good of an impression.

What haven't you liked about Well named?

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Originally Posted by Anarchist
monkey

how can you read vix as strong villa?
I just think he is one. He seems like he put himself out there to be shot at. I mean, maybe he's just having an epically bad wolf game and I am completely misreading it.

I'm not loving how he's being pushed either. A bit hard to put into words but the feel is wrong.
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12-27-2012 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Really? I think you make excellent reads but not so much early in the game. I think you're clever enough to push mislynches in the right way. What do I have wrong?
I think I do well early in the game. I've been nk'd early a bunch recently so I'm doing something right.
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12-27-2012 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Okay, thanks. I sort of flicked through earlier and didn't get that good of an impression.

What haven't you liked about Well named?
everything, i didnt like his opening post, his elaborate vix vote, his 180 on vix.
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12-27-2012 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
Well I remembered you lecturing people quite early in the last game we played, so your entrance didn't really jibe with my experience with your villa game.

I disagree on vixt and think his heavy trolling is straight out of his wolf game. It's obvious when he's really make an effort to work out people's roles and when he's just derping around imo. I have an open mind though.
I think you might be misremembering, but okay. I have to tell you though that I don't like being locked into a meta, so you can expect me to change up my villa game in future. I can stand being mislynched if that's the price for not having to call you a wanker to prove I'm a villager.

I accept that I might have totally misread vix and I certainly have metrics of my own for deciding that I got it wrong.
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12-27-2012 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
vixt pretending this is all some elaborate ruse is lol
What is a ruse?

Here are some of my first several posts:

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I haven't made a single read yet, all of my posts are fluff
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Originally Posted by vixticator
I'm going to make 99 posts
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Don't think so, I just reread myself and noticed that.
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It's awfully suspicious though
Which of these would you say is me trying to be "villagery"?

Answer: none of them. Because I wasn't. I was and continued for some time after making "wolfy" - by wolfy I mean posts that would be read as superficially wolfy, but are actually neither wolfy or villagery - posts in order to shake things up. I succeeded in that, I failed in that I shook things up a bit too much.

So the idea that I am lying about any of this is pretty lol given that it is obviously true and can be verified by reading my posts.

Was it a good strategy? Uh, well, I'll let you know later!
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12-27-2012 , 01:22 AM
Monkey I haven't locked you into anything so don't worry about that.

unvote
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12-27-2012 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
I think I do well early in the game. I've been nk'd early a bunch recently so I'm doing something right.
Well, like you say, I haven't played with you recently, so maybe you've been going through a hot spell that I haven't seen.

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everything, i didnt like his opening post, his elaborate vix vote, his 180 on vix.
Yet you think he could be on a team with me?

Seriously, it bothers me when people's reads don't cohere. If you name two wolves, I think they have to make sense together. I don't really like either/or wagons. I like polarising wagons but when a player says he likes both wagons but they don't work together, that strikes me as wolfy.
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12-27-2012 , 01:27 AM
I think that if well named is a villager, there is about zero chance Anarchist is a wolf, not that I think he's likely one anyway. Wolf Annie would LOVE a v/v bash between me and well named.

Contrarily, if well named is a villager, it looks really bad for BLS.

Not sure what it says if WN is a wolf though.
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12-27-2012 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Whether or not I am lynched depends on if people stop presupposing I have outed myself or not. I'm going to be obviously not a wolf way before EOD. But seeing as people are ******edly making conditional reads on other players (!!!) from me being an "outed wolf" its not a good start. Oh and rereading to find out the players making these conditional reads and lynching them is probably a super good idea which I may or may not do later.
great. vix is a villager.

well named is still a wolf. seriously your read on vixticator cannot possibly be something you actually believe in. him voting you before you entered the thread isn't meaningful enough and I don't think the read you make on that was serious. also IIRC you don't talk much about 'wolf tells' as a villager. I'll make a MQ on you but I'm pretty sure you're a wolf... in general I think you aren't making the kinds of reads and noticing the kinds of things you do as a villager, and this already looks a little bit like the way you pushed annie in breaking bad d1 (not only your read on vix, but also your read on mb).

i'm still very baked but coming down a bit
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12-27-2012 , 01:28 AM
Can you give a reads list or something monkey so I know where you're at cause I'm not sure where you are going now.
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12-27-2012 , 01:29 AM
Wait, what?

Seriously man, he pushed your wolves and that makes him a wolf?

I need some of what you're smoking and I need it now.
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12-27-2012 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Well, like you say, I haven't played with you recently, so maybe you've been going through a hot spell that I haven't seen.



Yet you think he could be on a team with me?

Seriously, it bothers me when people's reads don't cohere. If you name two wolves, I think they have to make sense together. I don't really like either/or wagons. I like polarising wagons but when a player says he likes both wagons but they don't work together, that strikes me as wolfy.
It was not my intention, but youŽll have to take it with a grain of salt. Not like i have much say anyhow.

I dont have the two of you as likely wolf bros... both of you just happen to be in a group i dont like right now.

Also this "has to make sense as a team" talk is not working in early day 1Žs imo, couse its all just borderline chaos
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12-27-2012 , 01:30 AM
Tweedy, I just watched The Godfather again, confirmed elite movie. Or I should say "watched" since I was reading and posting itt at the same time. Do I need to send you the dvd breh?
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12-27-2012 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
I think that if well named is a villager, there is about zero chance Anarchist is a wolf, not that I think he's likely one anyway. Wolf Annie would LOVE a v/v bash between me and well named.

Contrarily, if well named is a villager, it looks really bad for BLS.

Not sure what it says if WN is a wolf though.
do you have a crush on me or something?
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12-27-2012 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Can you give a reads list or something monkey so I know where you're at cause I'm not sure where you are going now.
Oh you're still here? Why don't you sit quietly in the corner while the villagers figure this one out?
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12-27-2012 , 01:33 AM
well named

Wolf teams d1 dont make sense and are just meant for the lols mostly. That's what spew analysis is for.
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12-27-2012 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i hope this day doesn't turn into a monkey vs well named showdown
Do they have some kinda history of flinging poo at each other that I need to know about or what did you say this for exactly?
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12-27-2012 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Wait, what?

Seriously man, he pushed your wolves and that makes him a wolf?

I need some of what you're smoking and I need it now.
I am 100% positive I did not say that.

he was pushing vix, as I was, but he was reaching the same conclusions through a thought process that I find unlikely to be part of his villa game and that he showed very recently as a wolf.

I also already said that.
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