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12-31-2012 , 11:31 PM
Yeah, I thought he was super wolfy especially after he made that post you mention, and then his 180 was better. And then I stopped reading, so err, idk :P

I think WN has three modes. He has his obvious villager game, his villager game and his wolf game.

His obvious villager game is when he's in the thread and in your face all the time. He's active, he's dynamic, he's hilarious, he's oh so very earnest. Think about the game you just seered.

His other villager game, whether due to time restraints or just not connecting as well with the thread, it seems a little more thought out and 'considered' if you will. It still has intuitive thinking and leaps of faith, but it isn't quite as 'all over the place', if you will, as his obv villa game.

His wolf game looks a lot like his 'other' village game. To the point where I don't differentiate amazingly well when he's playing well. And tbh, I get the feeling that since about halfway through day 1, he's probably played well in either role. I struggle to see how he even thought of or made some of those early posts as a villager, but I thought the same about Hoya last game.

This doesn't really say much I guess, except that he's not an obvious villager, which we already know. I believe I've only contributed to his mislynch once and that was in a 30ppd restricted game and I was actually nightkilled before he was mislynched. I'm not sure but I don't think I've ever really gotten his role ridiculously wrong since.

I really don't know where to stand on him though. You mentioned earlier you thought he was a villager and you seem to read him well. Mets thought he was a villager and apparently reads him well. I'm pretty sure Tweedy thought he was a wolf at least during like half of day 2. Hardcore did obviously.

It's an awkward spot. I think if we're happy clearing monkey and xkf and I'm happy clearing hardcore then this game can't really be too difficult.
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12-31-2012 , 11:39 PM
Reallllllly long, potentially useless post incoming in a bit
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12-31-2012 , 11:48 PM
Right, well named is an obvious villager most of the time. There have been exceptions when I was unsure about him d1 or d2 but dude can lock clear himself on page 1 whether he's aware of it or not. I think he has a lot of villagery type posts itt but I don't see him as a lock villager. He made quite a few wolfy posts yesterday, and I don't like the Anarchist push much at all from today. Not being super clear in itself is a problem.

This isn't my super long post ldo

That might not be ready until next year.
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12-31-2012 , 11:52 PM
:P

I think I'm gonna go take a nap, or at least try
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12-31-2012 , 11:59 PM
Lets maj well named
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01-01-2013 , 12:08 AM
After my post

Surely you want to see it :P
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01-01-2013 , 01:30 AM
talk about a cliffhanger

happy new years mother****ers
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01-01-2013 , 01:36 AM
Here is when the tide shifted away from my lynch. Not with the post I edited a decent number of posts out but I found this discussion interesting. No smoking guns or anything but I thought it was weird on reread.

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Originally Posted by well named
Monkey should absolutely be a wagon

In fact: Monkey Banana

I'm going to do what I did the last time I was in this spot with vix: let someone else push him cause I think I read him better that way :P Actually lol I think that was hardcore last time. I'm actually not entirely sure I'm not making this up entirely and that was some other read, but let's go with it. MB is super wolfy anyway
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Originally Posted by well named
Gut reaction: This is a good post for vix

I think I might have entirely misread that whole thing like totally lolme style

but we'll see
At this point I am still the top wagon I believe, and it looks like I'll be the lynch. Well named had voted for me not long before this, adding to my runaway lynch at that point (but, for entirely different reasons than the rest of the thread - and weird wrt our meta). But nevermind that, I am getting lynched ainec here.

Well named backs off me and starts to push MB saying he trust others to read me better - everyone itt thinks I'm a wolf tho. So this post backing off of me is actually villagery, and looking back later I noted this as being the case. And it still is obviously. It's good, not clearing.
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
wellnamed doing a one eighty
Birdie doesn't like it though.
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
ill go monkey over tweedy i find it hard to believe that tweedy has less WIM as a wolf than Chill
Mets calling out Chill for being a wolf who has no WIM here, it isn't the first time he did that itt. Btw this didn't start here. It's been an ongoing meta argument between Chill/mets since EOtW.
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
monkey banana

Why do you have rebonk so low on your list?
Chill votes with well named based on his post, presumably.
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Why are you sucking up to tweedy?
@mets
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
lol sucking up to tweedy

love you chill

if you believed half of the stuff you posted you would be awesome
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
well named, calling monkey "super wolfy" is over the top
Anarchist still has the read of WN=wolf, MB=villa, seems good for him. I believe he had called MB villagery earlier in the day. And I also think this is what pinged Annie's wolfdar on WN. Ask him though.
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
monkey
Monkey wagon gaining momentum
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
WN and birdie both have really concensusy lists. Like if you apply hardcore's flow theory then they just have people where they are according to the flow of the thread. I wanna know how they got a few people where.

****ing hardcore. Gonna engrave this flow theory into me like hard posting.
This is awkward because why is he calling out WN or Birdie for having "consensusy lists" while voting with both of them? Why is he bunching birdie and WN together at all. What does hardcore's flow theory have to do with anything in this post?
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
dont really like the post... i mean what else is there to go on?

why dont you post your list and we can go over some indifferences
Birdie jumps on Chill for that post
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
well named
Then votes for well named.
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Whether or not I am lynched depends on if people stop presupposing I have outed myself or not. I'm going to be obviously not a wolf way before EOD. But seeing as people are ******edly making conditional reads on other players (!!!) from me being an "outed wolf" its not a good start. Oh and rereading to find out the players making these conditional reads and lynching them is probably a super good idea which I may or may not do later.
Me clearing myself.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i hope this day doesn't turn into a monkey vs well named showdown
This post actually pretty bizarre
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
why not, seems like legit wagons
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Show downs are good they're hard to fake as w/w between most people.

Don't stop unless she tells you to stop IMO.
Ok so Chill thinks having showdowns is good as w/w. He is having a showdown with mets. Coincidence?
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Okay, thanks. I sort of flicked through earlier and didn't get that good of an impression.

What haven't you liked about Well named?
Good question @Birdie

Also edited out part of this post where MB says why he has me as a villager when it goes against consensus. MB reads me extremely well fyi. If he's a wolf it makes no sense for him to go so far as to fake peek me when I am the lead wagon.
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
everything, i didnt like his opening post, his elaborate vix vote, his 180 on vix.
Birdie doesn't like well named, I'm quoting this because he was killed n1 and presumably was actually playing well and not just a hero night kill. He pushed WN hard, skeptical of Chill, thought Monte was a wolf. Left his vote on WN eod. Clearing Anarchist, MB, I haven't read all his posts again just these are some of his reads I'm remembering. The most important thing is probably having WN as top wolf read and dying n1; and being skeptical of confirmed wolves.
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
great. vix is a villager.

well named is still a wolf. seriously your read on vixticator cannot possibly be something you actually believe in. him voting you before you entered the thread isn't meaningful enough and I don't think the read you make on that was serious. also IIRC you don't talk much about 'wolf tells' as a villager. I'll make a MQ on you but I'm pretty sure you're a wolf... in general I think you aren't making the kinds of reads and noticing the kinds of things you do as a villager, and this already looks a little bit like the way you pushed annie in breaking bad d1 (not only your read on vix, but also your read on mb).

i'm still very baked but coming down a bit
Hardcore stoned. Votes with Birdie, correctly clears me. Pushes well named, was probably Birdie's fake peek.
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Can you give a reads list or something monkey so I know where you're at cause I'm not sure where you are going now.
Chill asking Monkey for reads, he is currently voting for him.
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Oh you're still here? Why don't you sit quietly in the corner while the villagers figure this one out?
Monkey ignores him and puts him down quite brutally, lmao.
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
well named

Wolf teams d1 dont make sense and are just meant for the lols mostly. That's what spew analysis is for.
Wtf is this. He's voting with well named for monkey and then after some well named wagon starts taking off switches onto him... right after Monkey called him an idiot? Huh?

Needs to be noted that Chill left his vote on Monte in spite of being around at eod, and the reason he voted Monte in the first place was because other players were hard for him. Chill thought he was villagery, lol. The reason I think this well named vote is significant is he jumps on well named with no reason at all, right after having voted with him... because he got some pressure.

When wolves get pressured Chill thinks they are caught pretty much. Ive woofed with him a few times and this is just how he thinks. This is why he disappears as soon as he is under pressure and why he will bus quickly and without reason.

Oh btw who did Chill leave his vote on after he realized he was peeked wolf? Well named. That is very bad news for well named too.
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
wat

Ive been here tablet posting and watching lost like a boss.

Not gonna share you think about the whole game? Weak.
Chill responding to Monkey

He just backs off at this point for a while and goes back to fighting with mets. Also Monkey doesn't let it go, a few posts later Chill clears Monte for pushing him in a villagery way and Monkey presses him on why he thinks this etc.

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What is my point? I dunno

Do I have a conclusion?

I still think it's binkles or well named
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01-01-2013 , 01:42 AM
Oh **** I just turned into captain binkles

Forgive me
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01-01-2013 , 01:43 AM
That is a lot of words to say nothing much

lol
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01-01-2013 , 01:43 AM
hey well named im trying to get you lynched so you can't lynch me

ok?
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01-01-2013 , 01:44 AM
hmm

sup well named

who da wolf?
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01-01-2013 , 01:46 AM
I ****ing hate being peeked villager

I rather enjoy being peeked wolf
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01-01-2013 , 01:59 AM
I think it's anarchist. It's not like he's doing anything villagery today :P In any case I'm going to bed

only thing bothersome about bankles is how is this endgame not worth his interest? I think the players left and the game state is fairly worth his time. I still think mets was never a wolf so this is mostly academic but ffs bankles get in the game :P
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01-01-2013 , 02:03 AM
dude, its not me

you dont think it's me

if i were a wolf i would have claimed seer at least 2 days ago to draw out the seer

this is nothing like how i wolf

vixticator is awesome at reading me

the end
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01-01-2013 , 02:03 AM
I'm clearing Anarchist for reasons having nothing to do with his own posts, because I have no idea how to read him not even gonna try. If I read his posts I will almost certainly think he's a wolf regardless of his role.
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01-01-2013 , 02:04 AM
well named

if you;re the wolf, it's kinda smart for you to push me

you really need my mislynch

IF YOU ARE A VILLAGER I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE *** YOU'RE DOING

so im just gonna hope you're a waffle
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01-01-2013 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
vixticator is awesome at reading me

the end
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01-01-2013 , 02:05 AM
That could be the greatest xpost ever
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01-01-2013 , 02:05 AM
seriously just maj WN so he can't get me lynched, please
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01-01-2013 , 02:28 AM
I am just lol that we are supposed to clear mets because he played pro wolf
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01-01-2013 , 02:28 AM
no, you're supposed to clear him because he played his villager game
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01-01-2013 , 02:29 AM
the waffle is either well named or xkf. we can even mislynch me and still win
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01-01-2013 , 02:32 AM
im clearing binkles, monkey, hardcore and vix (ldo)

GAME IS A LOCK BITCHES
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01-01-2013 , 02:33 AM
well named/xkf there is no way you are winning this game. you should just resign
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