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12-31-2012 , 06:08 AM
you're not making any sense, monkey. I'm not pushing you. as I said, my re-read is on page 4, I like everyone else except for wn and you, then you start overreacting and saying I'll 'out myself' if I push you. don't be scared homie. I'm not even pushing you.
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12-31-2012 , 06:10 AM
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on page 4 it's like, it's either well named or monkey banana, but that's only because neither showed up.
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
If you try to push me at any point, I will not rest until you're lynched, because you will have outed yourself. I'm not going to let you mislynch me this game even if I have to scream and kick all the way down.
I just wanna quote this to make sure you understand why you sound completely insane :P
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12-31-2012 , 06:12 AM
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it's either well named or monkey banana
I think it's likely Binkles actually.

Remember, he mentioned that you cleared Xkf too light?
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12-31-2012 , 06:13 AM
So if was him, he kinda has to go Well Named (kill vix) > Xkf (kill Hardcore) > Anarchist. Something like that.
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12-31-2012 , 06:14 AM
Not sure where Well Named could even start, tbhwy.
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12-31-2012 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Xkf
it was like a super nitpicky case on the specific language used in a post. had you as a villager from the entry post because i think your'e more likely to post something about yourself as a wolf in your entry post and way way more likely to post about your hsitory with chilltown if you were a villager. everything since was just a forced read on rebonk and a stupid anti-village threat to tunnel people if they say they're clear.
very villagery post by xkf

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Originally Posted by well named
holy 4 pages batman.

****ing spammers :P

sup bros
hi there

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Originally Posted by Xkf
a lot of empty votes and nothing-posts
yeah this is ******edly villagery too on re-read. yay xkf.

hmm wn noted that.

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Originally Posted by Montecore
lkj getting butthurt because hardcore is clearing him for an insulting reason is mildly villagery, i think he'd be less likely to push it as a wolf
quoting this for how-wolf-monte-reads-villagers

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Originally Posted by Chilltown
hardcore is not a wolf based on the emotion he's shown in his posts. It's how I got there last game.

I'm calling it and going with it.
quoting this for how-chilltown-hard-defends-villagers

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Originally Posted by Anarchist
hardcore is an obvious villager

vix is howling
I really dislike how annie progressed his read here. I don't see how I'm an obvious villager if I was wolfy on p2. it's p4, I haven't posted much... anyway.

also fair to note wolves clearing me right and left. monte refuses to read me wolfy, chilltown is hard defending me... I'm gonna start clearing whoever bolds my name d1 :P

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=455

lol what to make of this.

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Originally Posted by well named
vix voted me? Cause I didn't vote vix. I'm not sure what you are talking about.



Yes. He has a kind of sharpness and cogency to his posting that I like.
good post wrt LKJ.

I wanna try infiltrating well named's logic d1 to see if I can not read him wolfy.

so his reads right now are xkf villa, lkj villa.

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Originally Posted by well named
the whole "omg POE with 2 wolf suspects lying about reads hurf durf wolfy" thing is ridiculous. It's just a loose way of talking about POE

I think i read hardcore pretty well and I think he's already pretty unlikely to ever be a wolf in this game
xkf villa, lkj villa, me villa

anyway

end of p5 I kinda like some of well named's posts and they come from a POV I understand. some of mets' lines are not making a huge amount of sense as w/w BUT his interactions with chilltown are subpar when it comes to the sincerity of how mad he is at chill.

chill also seems to be faking it but he was a wolf so he is obv faking it
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12-31-2012 , 07:09 AM
Yah, when I reread Xkf's d1, I felt he was villagey. I liked nearly everything he posted. But that drops away imo.

I think WN gives away a lot of villas. What I mean by that is that when a wolf hard clears a villager, it's hard to pull back from it. He "gives" the village that villager. It's a reason to be noncommittal, so that you limit how many villagers you have to 180 on. Because the 180ing can be a lot of work if you don't want it to be super obvious.

He also hardpushes, then 180s, then hardpushes two villas and 180s on a wolf. I've seen him just make **** up as a wolf, but wolves usually try to be tighter.

I really felt he was wolfy on tone d1, not so much on content, and then increasingly more villagey on tone, with poorish content from then on in.
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12-31-2012 , 07:15 AM
I really don't think wn's tone is the most important trait about his villa/wolf range.

I think he is fairly deeply within his wolf range regardless anyway.

I don't know what's his plan moving forward if he is a wolf. clearly chilltown was set up to be the late game wolf here.

I think wn is more likely than you and you are more likely than binkles from what I can remember. I don't remember a single wolfy post by you though, which makes my POE kinda ****ty heh
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12-31-2012 , 07:49 AM
I'm more likely than Binkles? You are high.
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12-31-2012 , 07:57 AM
i'm not high, i'm on page 6 :P

i think it's just wn.

re-reading this game will be painful but i gotta do it i think.

i wish wn just conceded so i wouldn't have to. i'm lazy
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12-31-2012 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
ok

This is actually super wolfy for vix. Vix reads me really well. The last 3 games we've played together, or maybe more than that, he's made a big deal about getting it right every time

there's zero reason for him to ever vote me before I've even posted like 24+ hours before night here. Ever. It just isn't his villager game at all and it seems like a super ridiculously obvious tell but it's like he avoided reading me as a wolf in whatever game I'm remembering too

so yeah, vixticator lol ez game blah blah

I thought his other posts before this were meeeehhh anyway but this is a legit tell, even though it really shouldn't be
this should be a sticky.
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12-31-2012 , 08:07 AM
like everytime we start thinking 'ohh maybe wn is a villager' we need to read that post and consider the likelihood that wn, as a villager, actually wrote that :P
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12-31-2012 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
Also: This **** is legit:

mets
hardcore
chilltown

xkf
montecore
birdie
LKJ

anarchist

rebonkulous
tweedybird

monkey banana
vixticator

Any questions?
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Well named thinking I "read" him as a wolf before he posted and wasn't tarping is a bit inexplicable, especially given that I'd certainly call him a villager as a wolf.
true too.

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Originally Posted by well named
Monkey should absolutely be a wagon

In fact: Monkey Banana

I'm going to do what I did the last time I was in this spot with vix: let someone else push him cause I think I read him better that way :P Actually lol I think that was hardcore last time. I'm actually not entirely sure I'm not making this up entirely and that was some other read, but let's go with it. MB is super wolfy anyway
:/

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Originally Posted by well named
Gut reaction: This is a good post for vix

I think I might have entirely misread that whole thing like totally lolme style

but we'll see
ok I missed that post. this is a good reaction. although I feel wn shouldn't be pushing vix as a wolf regardless.

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Originally Posted by Chilltown
monkey banana

Why do you have rebonk so low on your list?
wow

chilltown is voting monkey WITH wn?

hmmmm

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Originally Posted by Anarchist
well named, monkey banana is here now

where art thou
calling out wn to push monkey when monkey is actually present. villagery.

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Originally Posted by Chilltown
I got

Hardcore
Rebonk


As clear villas

Monte
Annie
Lkj

As likely villas

Xkf
Birdie
Well named
Monkey

As not really sure

Mets
Tweedy
Vix


As wolves
probably stupid to read into that but I think it kinda makes annie very unlikely a wolf just because he is placing monte right on top of him as a likely villa. I think wolf chilltown busses and pushes wolfbros a lot.
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12-31-2012 , 08:31 AM
a bunch of posts I dislike from monkey on page 7, but I feel it's just because we read stuff differently. his comeback doesn't quite make much sense for a wolf though. way too aggressive, asking everyone about montecore which kinda makes him a villager a lot.
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12-31-2012 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
well named

Wolf teams d1 dont make sense and are just meant for the lols mostly. That's what spew analysis is for.
now chilltown pushes WN the same way he pushed monkey earlier. vote + talk about something else.

fair to note he voted monkey WITH wn and then he voted wn anyway. idk how likely that makes one or the other a wolf. probably irrelevant, just thought I should point this out.
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12-31-2012 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
game is easy

chilltown
hardcore
monte
monkey
tweedy

lynch everyone else and we win
probably not a wolf posting that
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12-31-2012 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
oh i forgot birdie

hes an obv villager too
this adendum is VERY villagery.

ok i'm lock clearing annie.
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12-31-2012 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
I'm going to make it a minimum requirement of villagers that they do not push people they've "lock cleared".
after I caught monte, this is very unlikely the reaction of a wolfbro.

I think monkey starts to make little to no sense as a wolf and his posts are all mostly too combative and annoying as **** for him to ever be a wolf here :P

so I'm clearing annie.

I'm clearing xkf.

and I'm liking monkey now.
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12-31-2012 , 08:42 AM
on P8 I make my first 'the two lock wolves are well named and montecore' post and chilltown completely ignored me. not sure what it means though
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12-31-2012 , 08:49 AM
on p9 monkey is locking montecore up as a wolf. too bad he didn't push that further til EOD or whatever. but looks good.

wondering how much monkey just openly busses his wolfbros though.

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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
I feel reallllllllly good about him as a wolf right now.

He may or may not have spewed vixt and annie villa. If that's in fact true, it's going to be hard for well named not to be a wolf.
tweedy probably solving 2/3rds of the game d1 :P

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=839

and this is a great finding and a very wolfy post by WN.

on page 10 well named is indeed kind of a lock wolf.

I'm sorta hard clearing monkey for being just too ridiculously gamesolvey d1 and pushing monte way way way too hard to be w/w while still hedging a bit, cause that's like not really how wolves bus. he went really hard but like 'yeah I don't wanna say he is a lock wolf or read everything he posts wolfy or something...' which is very villagery as a process of pushing your wolfbro or something.

my reads after p10:

vixticator
xkf
anarchist
monkey banana


captain binkles

well named
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12-31-2012 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
now this is the kind of softpush wolves craft against villagers. he is not writing enough to commit to it even the slightest and he is not giving LKJ a chance to defend himself, instead he is throwing that read with the pre-emptive 'its d1 anyway' excuse attached to it. this defense mechanism looks good for LKJ if monte is indeed a wolf.

also fair to note monte is actually using annie's read on LKJ to softpush him, so he is not even making the read himself but agreeing with someone else and then piling a weird self defense on top of it. I'm just saying that because this was the hardest post montecore made, despite the ones pushing vixticator.
oh quoting myself cause I think this is another reason for why annie is always a villager here.
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12-31-2012 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
I guess I have to re-read this thread again.

Re: montecore - I have trouble reading him and he always kinda seems the same to me, but I thought I saw at least a couple of villagery phrases last night. I don't think I love wagoning him that much.

Re: Vix and the whole tarp thing. It seems obvious to me now that I bungled the whole thing and it doesn't even make sense, but I'm going to blame beer, slow internet, and reading things a bit out of order. I was already thinking vix was wolfy for a couple of later posts when I read his me-vote. Anyway, I am calling do-over on that, and in any case several of his posts that I skimmed this morning speaking about it seem pretty villagery to me

MB still seems like a wolf. I think rebonk could easily play this way as a wolf as well, people who are using the whole "Sort by post count, clear people" method of reading him are definitely doing it wrong.

mets, hardcore and birdie are probably never wolves.
nhom.

love this post.
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12-31-2012 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
I'm kind of doubting on re-read that MB is a wolf after some of his posts last night.

Things like saying that when I'm a villager I'll come around on him. Wolves rarely say that because they rarely feel confident that people will read them villagery. And one of his posts on monte, who probably has to be a wolf just by POE already

wolves are in like monte, rebonk, anarchist, LKJ, xkf?

I'm throwing the last 3 in even though they seem kind of villagery just because everyone seems pretty villagery and they are the least villagery of the seemingly villagery :P
I think I can understand why well named was playing this so poorly because if he is a villager then the other two wolves other than montecore were fairly villagery d1 (being monkey, being mets/binkles). so I can understand his thought process as a villager. but I do think that's a line he'd take as a wolf given the absolute lack of possible mislynches d1 at that point in the game.

I feel fairly certain also that WN wouldn't like to push montecore super strong here as w/w either because he is likely not getting villa points for that anyway.
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12-31-2012 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
lol?

I feel like you're trolling well named. None of those are hard posts or difficult for an experienced player to post as a wolf. Zomg a good player is asking other people questions!
and tweedy knows what's up.

I think well named's defense of montecore was fairly wolfy considering he didn't have much to gain credit for by pushing montecore anyway. going against the game flow IS wolfy in this instance. I don't think a player with well named's calibre would miss montecore when me, monkey and tweedy caught him fairly quickly. I expect moar.
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12-31-2012 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
monte the case as I understand it is failure to give reads or wolf hunt, and there was at least one post where you were giving more hypothetical/hedgy read on chill instead of just actually reading him
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also I've been defending you so do me proud :P
page 11 with montecore HOWLING HIS BRAINS OUT

wn keeps soft defending him and seems to be slightly changing his mind.

I think at this point wn should have realised montecore's reponses are very very wolfy.

he still seems to take a relatively weird stance on him, but I think this CAN be perceived as villagery if wn has a history of reading montecore poorly.
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