Vanilla 13er game thread Shirts vs Skins - Page 58

Votes	Lynch	Voters
5	Montecore	Chilltown (152), hardcoreUFO (136), LKJ (74), Monkey Banana (114), tweedybirdd (112)
5	rebonkulous	Anarchist (82), metsandfinsfan (153), vixticator (183), well named (71), Xkf (57)
1	Anarchist	rebonkulous (106)
1	LKJ	Montecore (89)
1	well named	BirdieLongSocks (84)
0	not voting

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12-27-2012 , 09:08 PM

#1428

LKJ

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Originally Posted by Montecore

i'm considering it

lkj, before you accuse me of timing my entrances for some nefarious reason, you should read my last few games, where i'm never around from 5-7:30ish for reasons that anyone that's ever interacted with me in any capacity already knows. that you're willfully ignoring it and using it to softpush me, all the while calling me out for softpushing you, is wolfy

Yeah I knew it came off that way, but it wasn't really what I was driving at. I was more referencing the moment when you decided who you were going to try to t-dome with than the moment when you just returned to the thread.

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12-27-2012 , 09:08 PM

#1429

hardcoreUFO

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wn, tbh this game is already so POE'd that I have a hard time believing the wolves have that many mislynches going forward for them. I'm not going to pre-emptively read you for spew heh, but I mean if you're known for bussing and the game has little mislynches left on d1 it kinda makes sense for you to bus.

so I'm not giving this any weight. it doesn't make rebonk more likely to be a wolf, but it doesn't make you less likely to be w/w with him just because you're pushing him...

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12-27-2012 , 09:08 PM

#1430

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

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Originally Posted by well named

actually I still think you may be more likely than rand() to flip villager, but it's obvious based on the game flow and all the other villager reads I have, and how thin my villa read on you is, to think you should be a wagon. And I realized that. So I changed my mind about it a bit. But there's a reason I'm still not voting you even though I think its optimal for you to be a wagon

and that reason is?

it's kind of important

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12-27-2012 , 09:08 PM

#1431

tweedybirdd

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montecore you're not helping yourself right now

we need an outline of how you feel about everyone

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12-27-2012 , 09:09 PM

#1432

tweedybirdd

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Originally Posted by Montecore

and that reason is?

it's kind of important

are you serious with this post?

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12-27-2012 , 09:09 PM

#1433

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

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Originally Posted by LKJ

i returned to the thread after actually reading the entirety of it

i could have come in without reading but that didn't go so well last time

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12-27-2012 , 09:10 PM

#1434

Chilltown

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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd

montecore you're not helping yourself right now

we need an outline of how you feel about everyone

Yeah.

Seems to be avoiding making any definitive reads on quite a few people.

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12-27-2012 , 09:11 PM

#1435

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd

montecore you're not helping yourself right now

we need an outline of how you feel about everyone

it's coming

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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd

are you serious with this post?

sure, why wouldn't i be

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12-27-2012 , 09:11 PM

#1436

Chilltown

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The Rebonk wagon doesn't feel very serious.

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12-27-2012 , 09:11 PM

#1437

hardcoreUFO

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is his push of LKJ counterspew or something?

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12-27-2012 , 09:12 PM

#1438

Chilltown

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rebonk and monte aren't even voting each other WTF

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12-27-2012 , 09:12 PM

#1439

Monkey Banana

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Does anyone else think it's not villagey to be certain?

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12-27-2012 , 09:12 PM

#1440

well named

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monte: lol the reason I'm not voting you is because I think rebonk is more likely to flip wolf. Although you don't seem to be helping here :P

hardcore: Isn't it like every game we have the exact same d1 wolf suspects except you just add me to the list? I am intrigued

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12-27-2012 , 09:12 PM

#1441

hardcoreUFO

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the rebonk wagon is less than optimal IMO because I think rebonk is one of those players who should be peeked by the seer or whatever in the rebonk/annie/lkj/xkf grouping of unknowns. IDK how much more likely it is that rebonk is a wolf in comparison to annie for instance. he is my soulread wolf team right now, but kinda interchangeable with anarchist.

well named is almost definitely a wolf and montecore is almost definitely a wolf... those should obviously be the wagons heh

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12-27-2012 , 09:13 PM

#1442

LKJ

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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

Does anyone else think it's not villagey to be certain?

Yes I agree with this.

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12-27-2012 , 09:14 PM

#1443

Monkey Banana

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Well named's tone has actually been pretty good.

Well named, have you been drunk at any point in this game?

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12-27-2012 , 09:14 PM

#1444

well named

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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

Does anyone else think it's not villagey to be certain?

depends on a lot I think. Biggest case in which certainty == wolfy is with bussing in certain spots though, imo

wolves hard clear villagers they don't think they can lynch too but villagers also hard clear villagers a lot too so I don't think it's as profitable as a tell.

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12-27-2012 , 09:14 PM

#1445

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82,123

villagers are tweedy, xkf, annie, bls

wolves are the four i listed

not sure about the last four

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12-27-2012 , 09:14 PM

#1446

hardcoreUFO

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Originally Posted by well named

that happened once dude :P

and yeah well, my read on you on the other game was mostly me disagreeing with you on starrazz. in this game is the whole thing. I don't think you can be a villager here often enough. you're my #1 or #2 wolf lean, that never happened before IIRC.

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12-27-2012 , 09:14 PM

#1447

vixticator

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i doubt the game is poe'd

and unless you are the seer with a wolf peek reading people for spew, making conditional reads, etc, seems pretty much terrible. nobody should ever be lynched for being "a wolf by poe" d1. the entire concept is ridiculous.