now this is the kind of softpush wolves craft against villagers. he is not writing enough to commit to it even the slightest and he is not giving LKJ a chance to defend himself, instead he is throwing that read with the pre-emptive 'its d1 anyway' excuse attached to it. this defense mechanism looks good for LKJ if monte is indeed a wolf.

also fair to note monte is actually using annie's read on LKJ to softpush him, so he is not even making the read himself but agreeing with someone else and then piling a weird self defense on top of it. I'm just saying that because this was the hardest post montecore made, despite the ones pushing vixticator.

Second post, refers to mod doing reveals in videos, felt strange, but then so is mods decision on how to reveal.

Next comes a series of confident posts pushing rebonk, confidence being the thing that spoke to me.

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From second page I belive, wierd meta read considering the events that where to follow, mainly vix being loud and annie pushing

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These two posts are in reference to hardcore post where he sudgests that annie sliped somewhere... never really got what it was about but his two responses here seem stretched

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Below follows posts when annie started pushing vix

This is in reference to vix fakeing some wolfchat that had 4 wolfs I belive.

I like this post alot, dont really know why he doesnt want it but I think it shows signs of geniune villa worriness.


To sum it up, not as bad as I thought. Would place him in some middle group above wolfs. These reads are made without taking much of meta into account couse i dont have much with him.

You picked some posts that really reflect well on him imo. Looks very engaged and active.

yeah I think annie starts really crappy then improves his posts a lot.

since I'm getting a big villa vibe on rebonkulous on re-read and I'm liking your posts here a lot, birdie, I might go back to putting annie as you are, slightly above the wolves, villagery but not villagery enough to avoid eventually being POE'd down if we miss a wolf in xkf/wn/monte.

uhm, well i dont know how much more i can give...

i want to say that I objectively dont think your assesment of me is fair

I don't think you understood what I said.

i mean, i was soft pushing and voting monte page one,

said that he gave me a funny feeling on page four

i was the first to vote wn i think

i mean, i was soft pushing and voting monte page one,

said that he gave me a funny feeling on page four

i was the first to vote wn i think

I said I might go back to putting annie as you are... oh ok, I get it now. no, what I mean is as you are putting him, slightly above the wolves.

I have you as one of my 5 absolutely lock cleared villagers (as far as d1 goes :P).

also game is over if I'm right about those 5 and montecore is a wolf, because of some conditional reads:

six villagers in mets/vix/monkey/birdie/chilltown/me.

I think if montecore is a wolf that kinda spews LKJ villager for a couple of posts they made that don't quite look w/w at all. he obviously spews tweedy villager as hard as anyone can spew anyone villager. just reaaaaaally unlikely that tweedy goes around wagoning his wolfbr0 super hard from d1 SOD when said wolfbr0 wasn't really getting any heat.

so I would dare saying the game is solved as long as montecore is a wolf.

because then poe would be like

wn
xkf
annie
rebonkulous
and then maybe LKJ

there are only three mislynches here and it's gg pretty much.

oh nice i have serius lag

hardcore, i take it am in a group just above wolfs? i am insulted.

read POE as top guys getting lynched first obv.

no ffs. I'm saying you're one of my lock cleared villagers here.

you/mets/chill/vix/monkey

are lock clear.

my incapacity to explain easy leans is disgusting.

I'll join tweedy on montecore

sorry mets :/

got it =)

regarding people looking good if monte is a wolf(i know lets not get ahead of ourself)

he posts this on the first page regarding annie

I strongly believe lynching montecore here is much more practical to read the game tomorrow. if he is a villager that's a huge huge headache for us but I find it really unlikely. if he is a wolf he absolutely spews tweedy villager and he is a second tier right now, and he may or may not spew LKJ villager (it's kinda thin) and he is also a second tier.

WN doesn't do much in terms of spew because he hasn't interacted enough and the players that pushed him more hard are mostly first tier villagers.

since my read on both are kinda interchangeable at this point lynching montecore seems to make the most sense.

also I think rebonkulous looks ok if monte flips wolf.

I thought of this a couple of times already and I think we should start making these vanilla games way more fair for the wolves.

the early d1 SOD with a big 24 hour d1 is really painful for the wolves unless it's like a 50ppd game. it's easy for villagers to clear themselves and if everyone pumps a nice volume the wolves are very often getting POE'd down and lynched because of the massive volume.

in the future we should probably avoid that big d1 for no post restriction vanillas because they make the game slightly unbalanced in favour of the village. like maybe monte's performance until page 6 would be enough for him to avoid getting lynched if EOD happened at page 9 or whatever. we still have like 12 hours, though. d1 EOD ending at page 16 makes it really difficult for the wolves.

anyway just saying. I should probably suggest this to a mod but WN is playing so he'll read this heh. in x-files my wolfbr0s got massacred by the fact that the first two gamedays combined were 5 days long. werewolf has to be a race against time. if the villagers sit their asses long enough staring at the thread they'll eventually solve the game, or at least POE the wolves effectively.

so yeah

lol





not really. That's role neutral
And ID still lunch vix before him

Wellnamed is infamous for his :Ps











no you're not

My issue with you right now is you went through This last game and I have a hard time believing you'd put me through it as a villager esp when there are other options from your POV

So if Monte gets mislynched today
And the seer is dead with no live peeks
You 100% cannot make endgame now
And need to be lynched

If you're a villa I hope you don't care about mislynch stats




Monte is not a wolf
Rebonk - I still think he hasn't wolftelled but I'm beginning to POE him

He's not a wolf

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Beta app has tons of smilies but no heart button

weird i used emoticons from the beta app and they don't show up at all

you know I don't care :P

I mean... I'm definitely considering everything including you're peeking monte villa here to wagon him. I laid out why I think he is a best option than well named. and I don't have many options, I have two. well named or montecore. you're doing what you're supposed to do with your villa peek, it's all cool, but I think I'll stay on monte unless he gets extremely villagery from now on.

cool

i think ill let you guys mislynch him but dont bitch in the postgame because i dont feel like getting all worked up

ill makesure my vote is on a wolf tho so i can keep bragging

oh well

think I'm going to crash a bit

cheers mates

dudes

I am not a wolf and I am not getting lynched in this game.