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im def ok with luckbox lunch fwiw

i know he voted a wolf last night... actually i take it back. he shouldn't be killed. if he bussed a wolf he should get at least one night's safety for that! lol!

It's just not true that I never said anything about her prior. I said she was lacking content early on--which she was obviously.

like luckbox even said he's still in his wolf range. of course he is. but come on, he voted to kill a wolf last night. he should be safe at least for now. kill him later if we have to

So to summarize Luckbox's entire progression on Esooa
Luckbox has her as blue/gray early, votes Esooa without saying anything about her being wolfy prior, makes two posts insinuating she's a wolf, doesn't make any posts in between to indicate that he changed his mind, switches his vote to irtm citing sort by post count (at 6:45) and doesn't mention her a single time until he votes her an hour later on 5-4 wagons.

oh yeah kami could be a wolf

I said you never called her wolfy prior to voting her, that is 100% accurate.
This ball of wish-wash is not a push, it is not calling her wolfy. It is stating the fact that she has been lower content and giving a reason at the end to dismiss it.

There's also a 100 post gap between the last post in that sequence and the 2nd to last. I expected esooa to be coming back towards eod it was looking like she might not be. I also pretty much masoned with her in the previous game and wasn't super ready for her to be dying here. Which I get makes me look bad but it is what it is.

he did the exact same thing in his last wolf game

You were making the argument that just her mere presence in the thread was villagery at that point fwiw.

I just find his progression on irtm to be lacking too, votes him on not much at all really in the early stages while saying he's just trying it out. Then switches to Esooa, makes a few posts about Esooa being a wolf, and finally votes irtm at 6:45 citing post count. My main issue being the lack of progression from "I'm just trying it out" to "I want him to be a wagon at eod and am switching off Esooa to do so".

So what? I put the most important vote of EOD down on Esooa when I had absolutely no reason to do so if I was a wolf, I'm clear as can be. Focus on the arguments I'm bringing not me.

In hindsight it makes sense that esooa was up all night 0, probably chatting it up

Tin foil her partners are other chatty kathys

I mean I do expect to be pushed here. And yeah-- if I were a wolf I wouldn't have a choice but to vote esooa. Even with me staying off Mets/CC in the last game with me peeking CC-- different situations, and these wagons were a lot more settled. So it's all whatever.

Why did you want irtm to be lynched? You posted very little reason why he was a wolf throughout the day and never indicated that you were particularly confident in the read. Why did you not attempt to develop that read?

Also had the thought that if esooa and kami are both still wolves and I’m the only one who didn’t rerand on the same team I’m going to be outrageously butthurt over it

Gad and I have been work shopping a theory. Not sure if we are going with the "orbital perturbations" theory or "negative space" theory. But basically its this idea that you find the wolves in werewolf not by looking for wolves, but by looking for the negative space and finding them indirectly. When looking for planets in outer space they are almost impossible to observe directly. They are small and emit no light. So astromers find them by observing the perturbations the produce in the start they orbit (due to small gravitational changes).

Anyways the negative space in this game is in the shape of "Lucbox Inc". When I look for the wolves I see a big empty space and it's him.

Not sure if that makes sense. It probably doesn't. There just isn't a Luckbox in this game. Just a negative space in the same of him.

*in the shape of him

I excluded all posts from Luckbox's eod that weren't related to his reads and focused only on those. I see soft pushes on Monte/Cross, I see no attempt to further his read on irtm even though he was around at eod and was who Luckbox was voting. I see no mention of Esooa until he votes her to make it 6-4. And lets keep in mind he had Bird as a villa all game so absolutely could not go there if he was a wolf. I'm good voting here, the 3 people I had below Luckbox in the poe have given me enough doubts that I think this is best. I think this is the best case I have.

He only posted 32 times yesterday, and irtm definitely isn't a player I'm ever too excited about lunching but it's not like I don't think I can't read him. And what counts for me "doing work" in trying to figure people out oftentimes takes place in my own head.
Is your argument that me as wolf wanted to kill IRTM but put forth zero effort in actually trying to make a case on him or convince anyone else to vote him?

Why didn't you put effort in to developing your read further at eod? You obviously were not confident in the read on him, that much is indisputable.

Did you genuinely think irtm was more wolfy than Esooa, if so explain why, because your posting yesterday was not indicative of it.

I just didn't want to kill esooa if you want to know the truth. But then I did so....

If you didn't want to kill Esooa why did you vote her earlier in the day without giving any indication of finding her wolfy at the time?