thingyman, why do you keep trying to weasel your way into masonries with people?

first you went after Athexxx, now you're sidling up to jcohen and cory and trying to whisper sweet nothings in their ear, pretty creepy bro

Not bad. Would lynch/vig at least 3 of these.

Is there some reason you think Saber is a villager here when he can barely manage thread comprehension?

probably villager vs. probable wolf?

that's not even a fair counterwagon

yamato stands no chance

i responded

lmk if you think i'm wrong

You say those two things as if they have a connection.

Also, if you read my posts, I actually think there's a clear progression. Which could be faked if I was a wolf, sure. But it's not like this came out of nowhere.

If you really believe that I am faking being paranoid about traz, then well, good luck with that read.

And with regards to pushing one of your top villagers, well, I'm sorry, I've played a couple of v/v games with monstrman and he was obvious villager from the get-go in both of them. When I hear jcohen echo these same sentiments, it's persuasive to me. At the very least, I want to pressure monstrman for it.

And additionally, I'm not sure Phel is a good vote anymore, so I'm trying to find a better vote (no, traz won't get my vote, deal with it).

after re reading yamato it seems he's giving next to nothing reads wise.

however both games I've played with him he was a low poster lhf who was ML d1.

Can anyone explain why they would want to see him lynched today?

surprised he didn't tear his ACL doing that

I'm strongly considering lynching YOU today.

I know, right

Why luckbox? I read a previous case of yours on him, and it seemed pretty silly, given that what you're accusing him of, he did as a villager in game 4.

I could ask for the rest, but that one has been the one that most confuses me.

Strongest read at the time I woke up was Crunkus as Town, because I can perfectly understand where his frustration and tone is coming from and it does not ring as false.

I also had traz and merk_sa as towny. Traz for acting pretty much exactly as I remember him acting (as town) in Game 1 and overall not feeling like he's trying to mislead people, and merk_sa because early aggression is a general town-tell. However, these are not strong because I've been informed by other players that this is the sort of gameplay both of these players are very capable of as wolves too.

I don't have any really strong wolf reads.

Allow me to be more clear:

If you successfully lynch Monstr and he flips v, I'm going to kill you tonight.

I feel like these people have something in common* and I thiiiiink I like that fact even if I think the thing they have in common isn't something that I actually find wolfy but Tommy probably does so in that sense I think he's thinking about how people are interacting

it's also possible that Tommy thinks that what they have in common just gives them a propensity to get lynched, I guess, but I kinda doubt it



* I'd call it "underwillingness to elucidate-itis" because I couldn't come up with something that would acronym well into Ebola -- though on reflection I don't know that I'd put Phel in that category so meh maybe I'm nuts but deleting posts is for losers so here we go anyway

yamato at least used to be a somewhat passionate villager

i haven't seen anything strong from him except a lot of whining irt to me/monstr/tommy and traz

which i do not understand to this day

he's known for being a somewhat meh wolf but if i had a "big fear" it's that he's just stopped trying as a villager after a few games where i saw him ML'd for inactivity

but usually i think he's a villager for his spurts of activity; he makes strong posts and confident posts and he did neither in his sort time, just complained about the bullying of traz

i don't think his activity level is indicative of his alignment but i'd expect a post or two by now where you can hang your hat on him being at least somewhat villagery

I gave up on it an hour ago. Wouldn't make it.

If you're a villager, this won't be earning you champion points.

Saber I'm not leaving you hanging I'm just impossibly busy

I think of WN and Yamato as similar: low-effort villagers in recent months who get drowned out by power wolves and get mislynched for their tendency to e stubborn and refuse to kowtow to others.

but i think thats a very easy post to make as a wolf because its all fluff and nothing specific to the game. i get you wouldn't necessarily want to build yourself up, but i still can't give it villager points when it has nothing to do with anything in reality

i don't remember what this is referring to. i remember the traz thing but not the crunkus/yamato as much. its also hard for me to buy, again after your last game when you displayed an incredible amount of frustration

i don't know if that frustration when you were a wolf was real or not, but regardless it means i can't trust it coming from you ever now. I've never seen you frustrated as a villager, although i do take your word for it that its happened. but that still doesn't make you any more likely to be a villager than a wolf

tthats great but its also not something i can measure or analyze in any way

thats possible, i don't know. i wish i had played in a real villa game with you for longer than one day. its possible that our good reading of each other is more about turbos than real games - i mean in champions #4 we didn't even bond until after my full cop claim. so maybe we naturally don't see things as eye to eye as we think we do, because for some reason our relationship isn't the same in real games as it is in turbos

on a final note, its a little odd how much thought you've put in to analyzing your own reads like this. thats something thats very important to do as a wolf, but i can't believe you care about it that much as a villager. like it shouldn't matter to you at all. as a villager i would never already have prepared bullet points for why I'm a villager, whereas when I'm a wolf i would take pride in any villagery posts I've made and any slick things I've done, and id be ready to be like see look at me i was such a villager right there

monstr isn't being lynched today

zero chance

Yes. I remember this before too. hai.

you asked

it's something i would absolutely do as a villager as i just did it as a villager

Also, you should probably be thinking more about motivations and sincerity rather than "I disagree". It seems weird to defend myself this way, but I mean, what is my motivation as a wolf to be going into that thing with traz or to be switching my vote to what I know is a controversial vote? As a wolf I just dodge attention - that seems like bad ways of dodging attention. As a villager I am interested in solving the game. Judge for yourself what motivations you think are at play here for me.

Notice me senpai!