(moocher wasn't here, someone had to say that in his stead)

If tappo (or anyone else) can produce arcbell talking that much in wolf chat from 11/28, I'm willing to listen to the argument though

Homework assignment while I am afk:

Look at d3 votes when we had monster/merk/wn wagons

See where known wolves were when

I can play some ww now.

My order of business:
1) Put everyone dead on ignore and work through the thread with live players (while noting which page they post on so they can be reread later - I can't code for **** so will have to do this manually).
2) Put everyone except dead wolves on ignore and work through the thread(**** you moocher for being unignorable)
3) Take everyone off ignore and look at every EOD
4) Maybe look for some key posts among the villagers who drew a nk
5) Hopefully end up with a comprehensive recap for every player
6) If there's time, defend myself

Does anyone think my time can be used more optimally?

you could concede instead obv

I can't concede since I think we're 90+% to win this.

I have one thing that I think works in LenC (not the ONLY thing, but one that kinda stands out for me without me needing to read the thread)

On D1, LenC latevote switched from murska to tommy. We know both are town. What motivation does wolf!LenC have to make a voteswitch from one townie to the other at 8:01?

Let's not forget this from Thingy on page 2:

lenC is the only person that stands out.

I can and have done those things in both roles. Murska claimed cop, high chance enough people will switch to Tommy so that he gets the lynch so it would be better to do so as a wolf too.

That part yes ofc wolves would do that. It's the idea of a wolf deliberately slow rolling a vote switch that seems a little off. I don't say this clears you in any way, that'd be silly. It's just one of the little things that makes me wonder what your wolfy agenda is if you had one, but not really seeing one.

I'll say to you the same thing I said to Arcbell: Find a scum and make a persuasive case.

If you're town, giving a full analysis on every single player is not helpful to us (well, not helpful to me at all). Instead, tell us who you think is scum and why in a way that it will echo off the walls after you flip town.

Page 3 reads from traz, looking really good in hindsight.

Not all of us are in the button clicking business.

merk going at wn on page 4 looks decent:

Mayhaps you do not understand what "known wolves" means

Votes from post 10222 to post 10366
Night in 27:59:54
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
4	lenC	traz (12), merk_sa (37), The Moocher (23), Thingyman (11)
1	merk_sa	tappokone (19)
4	not voting	Crunkus (1), DWetzel (17), lenC (15), saberwolf13 (6)

Why this isn't the basis in any way shape or form for a read either way.

I'd like to point out that I question the basis for this read. I dispute the notion only a town (vanilla or otherwise) would be so keenly aware of how Arcbell's post was outing. It's not a matter of opinion. A wolf would be more acutely aware than a town...because the wolf would know for a fact that this is what it was. I find that I'm more acutely aware of my fellow wolves all the time and how they offer tells...it's fairly natural. Sometimes they are TOO acutely aware and its a kind of tell. Surely someone else has had this experience? I know you've offered that wolf tells are ridiculously rare (something I disagree with strongly), but having that view should make this perspective more the case...not less so.

The alternative is actually not that it was staged. The alternative is that the wolf decided to point this out and use it to justify a bus vote. There's no staging involved...they are literally just pointing out something they knew to be true in that explanation as though they had discovered it as town.

It's explainable from either perspective. It's therefore a neutral tell. Not a matter of opinion. Do you disagree with any part of this argument?

Again...why?

How is this consistent with your earlier view that only a townie would be so attuned to how that outed arcbell?

In one you give credit for being so attuned to arcbell's guilt...in the other you give credit for not being attuned to arcbell's guilt.

I don't see how the same villager finds both of these things villagery. They literally oppose each other logically.

teambuilding!

Which is it, they are all terrible or you are skipping them? Can't be both from your perspective.

Aside from that...no comment. (see progress!)

They can certainly both be true

Crunk talks a lot to TTT early and I think posts like the one highlighted here represents well that I think he was spewed in the sense that I haven't seen such w/w conversations on early d1 before.

Major reads post from traz, think it's a little less accurate %-wise than the ones before but still very accurate overall.

Only thing that bugs me is that he talks about every wolf lean except TTT("I thinky tommy/saber/yamato are all excellent votes today"), but not like this is highly wolfy or whatever.