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03-31-2011 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
I use the 3-6, 3-5 and the re-roll rack, which is probably not worth it but I hate rigged rands.
I think those are good abilities. I like the 3>2 as well, you make sure you get enough 2īs in the first 4 racks (you would prefer to get something like 4) or make sure in rack5-9 that all 2s are paired.
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03-31-2011 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
Today I played my challenge pretty friggin good.
sup

I really like the idea of posting your thought process fwiw, it could lead to some good discussion.

Last edited by derwipok; 03-31-2011 at 09:10 AM.
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03-31-2011 , 09:06 AM
I'm not sure what is actually best for advance, but I like Clairvoyance. Changing around tiles is nice and all, but having a preview of the next rack is quite awesome.
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03-31-2011 , 09:18 AM
clairvoyance or roll manipulation is the choice between these two:
  1. Optimal strategy with nonoptimal rolls
  2. Optimal rolls and strategy based on the assumption you get optimal rolls

2 > 1
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03-31-2011 , 09:30 AM
at least with the points i have, it's more like better strategy with non optimal rolls versus hopeful strategy with better rolls, which is less clear, but ultimately a mega score relies on a very skewed roll, so the ability to make the rolls more extreme is probably more conducive to making a massive haul. Making the most of a meh set of dice is maybe less obvious imo
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03-31-2011 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
Today I played my challenge pretty friggin good. I took screenshots after every rack, I will post them tomorrow with my thought process. I think that will be interesting.
Mine was a sea of grey tiles
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03-31-2011 , 10:15 AM
Derwipok beat me though
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03-31-2011 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
clairvoyance or roll manipulation is the choice between these two:
  1. Optimal strategy with nonoptimal rolls
  2. Optimal rolls and strategy based on the assumption you get optimal rolls

2 > 1
I guess you're right. It seems like manipulating as many tiles as possible is the best way if you want to get a super high score, clairvoyance seems to lower variance though since you can change your strategy depending on the upcoming rolls.

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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
Derwipok beat me though
That's what the sup was supposed to tell you
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03-31-2011 , 01:23 PM
I'd have broken 40 for the first time, but after using my reroll I inexplicably forgot that I was playing advanced and could trade the 3s for useful things, and wound up at 39.6k.
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03-31-2011 , 01:32 PM
I cost myself my first 50k score by doing the same thing today
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03-31-2011 , 02:07 PM
8 people playing timed atm.
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03-31-2011 , 04:44 PM
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testing a method to post a triplechain board
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04-01-2011 , 01:52 AM
So the daily challenge from yesterday. I played it pretty good, but Derwi played it better.

First rack: 11334

How do you play it?

You can post the board with the template in the previous post or you can just name the coordinates.
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04-01-2011 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . 3 . # # #
2 # # # . . . # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 4 . . . . . . . 3
6 . . . . 1 . . . .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # . . 1 # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

testing a method to post a triplechain board
but im not very good
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04-01-2011 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JRock7997
but im not very good
So you can get better.

Anyway, I think that is indeed not a very good way. It appears you donīt want to make a 3-chain nor a 4-chain and put them all away from the center. That is gambling for lotsa 5s and 6s in the next racks. Also note that the bottom squares (E1-E9-A5-I5) are ideal for 2s and now you have occupied 3 of them already.
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04-01-2011 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
So you can get better.

Anyway, I think that is indeed not a very good way. It appears you donīt want to make a 3-chain nor a 4-chain and put them all away from the center. That is gambling for lotsa 5s and 6s in the next racks. Also note that the bottom squares (E1-E9-A5-I5) are ideal for 2s and now you have occupied 3 of them already.
yea, i learn something new everyday. i usually save those spots for my trash...lol
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04-01-2011 , 05:46 AM
Normally when I'm just hoping to get a high score I'd play it like this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # 3 . . # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . 1 . . . . . . .
5 . . . . . 4 . . .
6 . . . . . . . 3 .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # 1 . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

This is just going for the placement of dynasty's strat, hoping that I don't get many 3s in the following racks.

Edit: In a normal game I'd actually just click new game if I get 2 3s fwiw.

For the daily challenge I did this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # . . . # # #
3 # # # . 3 . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 . . 3 . . 4 . . .
6 . . . . . . . 1 .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # . . 1 # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

I speculated on a 3 chain because a lot of people don't want to make 3 chains, which would give me a good chance of winning if more 3s follow.
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04-01-2011 , 05:52 AM
Do we really want to solve the game?
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04-01-2011 , 05:54 AM
Do we solve the game when we talk in detail about one challenge?
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04-01-2011 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by derwipok
Normally when I'm just hoping to get a high score I'd play it like this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # 3 . . # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . 1 . . . . . . .
5 . . . . . 4 . . .
6 . . . . . . . 3 .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # 1 . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

This is just going for the placement of dynasty's strat, hoping that I don't get many 3s in the following racks.

Edit: In a normal game I'd actually just click new game if I get 2 3s fwiw.

For the daily challenge I did this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # . . . # # #
3 # # # . 3 . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 . . 3 . . 4 . . .
6 . . . . . . . 1 .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # . . 1 # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

I speculated on a 3 chain because a lot of people don't want to make 3 chains, which would give me a good chance of winning if more 3s follow.
These are pretty much the 2 options I would go for but with some minor adjustments. I'm not sure if they're better. For the first one, I would switch the location of the top square 3 and the 1 in the left square. I find that if I get extra 6s in the first round you have a better place to put them. This is pretty common as you only need two 6s in the first round if you go with this location (See 6s in the center square). Plus you don't want to waste any 6s. I tend to put trash in the bottom of the left square first.

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # . 3 # # # 
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 . . . 6 . 4 . . .
6 . 1 . . 6 . . 3 .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # 1 . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

For the second one, why did you put the 1 in the bottom square on the right instead of the left like you did in the first?
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04-01-2011 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BingoBango
These are pretty much the 2 options I would go for but with some minor adjustments. I'm not sure if they're better. For the first one, I would switch the location of the top square 3 and the 1 in the left square. I find that if I get extra 6s in the first round you have a better place to put them. This is pretty common as you only need two 6s in the first round if you go with this location (See 6s in the center square). Plus you don't want to waste any 6s. I tend to put trash in the bottom of the left square first.
I agree for the 3, I usually put stuff on the right in the top square, no clue why I didn't. I put the 1 on the top because it allows you to do this if needed:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . 6 . # # #
2 # # # 6 . 3 # # #
3 # # # 6 5 4 # # #
4 . 1 6 5 . 5 4 . .
5 . . 5 6 . 4 5 . 6
6 1 . 1 5 6 4 6 6 .
7 # # # 5 4 6 # # #
8 # # # 1 . 6 # # #
9 # # # . 6 . # # #

You can get 3 1s in the left square in dynasty's strategy if the situation calls for it. It's unlikely that numbers fall like this, but there are enough other places where you can put the extra 6s (highlighted in red).

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Originally Posted by BingoBango
For the second one, why did you put the 1 in the bottom square on the right instead of the left like you did in the first?
I just took the position from my board from yesterday. I assume that it was a mistake because I usually try to reserve the right spot in the bottom square for an extra number for the inner chain.
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04-01-2011 , 07:01 AM
I think there are a couple of viable strategies with a 43311 first rack.
I did this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # . . 1 # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 . . . . . 3 . . .
6 . 4 . . . . . 1 .
7 # # # . 3 . # # #
8 # # # . . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

I commit myself as well to making a chain of 3s, but I prepare for making it the inner chain that usually only goers to three areas. I hope the next rolls give me 3 6s or 3 5s to make the major outer chain (C5-E3-G5) and two 5s or 6s to make the major inner chain (D5-E4).

I donīt think I placed the 4 very well. I should have placed the 4 in the upper or right zone and place a 1 in B4 (the left zone can carry 3 1s).
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04-01-2011 , 08:02 AM
I actually like the way you placed the 3s.



So close...
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04-01-2011 , 08:50 AM
The second rack was easy, something like 66321. 6s are going to be my major chain and the 3 fits in E4. The third roll included a 6 to complete the major chain requirements (C5-E3-G5) and a 5 that I placed D5, obv planning to make a major inner chain putting another 5 at E6. It is a lot better to place the 5 at D5 rather than E6, because rack 4 showed no 5s and I had to put a 3 at E6, leading to the following board after 4 racks:



I was pretty happy with this layout. Obviously knowing that there would be only 1x4 and 1x5, I would have gone for basic strat and placed a 6 also in E7. The only thing I didnīt like was the lost 3 in the left zone. But I need only 3x3s to complete a full chain and I think that I beat the field aorn.

Rack 5 is a rather brutal 12223. How do you play?
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04-01-2011 , 08:58 AM
I put 2s in the top and bottom square. That leaves G6 in the right square as the best place for the 3. The 1 then goes to A6 on the left because I don't want it in the middle for the case that a 1 comes in the last rack I want the middle square to be free. The last 2 then goes to D6. I do this because I want the 6 chain to enter the bottom square on the right side because it allows me to potentially get 3 5s in 3 squares on the left (D5, C6, D7).
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