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05-13-2021 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Adding the 5 and the "exactly two of the 4s are detectors" rule wasn't necessary. I solved with the link in the 1st post above.
The 5 was not needed.

But, I think the 4s as detectors are there to ensure a unique solution. They are no help in solving.
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05-13-2021 , 01:20 PM
AK pointed out that my solution was invalid, I had 2 valid detectors in the center block which made me have three 4s in the puzzle. Maybe the "every 3x3 block contains 1 quark detector" rule needed to be lifted after all.
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05-13-2021 , 01:31 PM
I thought this was the new detector rule in its entirety.

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The detector rule is now that exactly two of the 4s in the grid (not necessarily the given 4s) are detectors. Other digits may or may not reflect the quarks around them.
But, Lattimer, you may be right that this amendment is in addition to the one quark detector in every region.

All I know is I am not trying again..lol...
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05-13-2021 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight
The 5 was not needed.

But, I think the 4s as detectors are there to ensure a unique solution. They are no help in solving.
When I was at the end of the last refit, I had a deadly pattern of 5s and 6s, so I put in the 5.
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06-12-2021 , 07:52 PM
I have a new puzzle.

The Arrows Are A Bit Dotty

I’ve been playing around with multi digit arrow totals, and not getting what I want. However, some of what I’ve been exploring is in this puzzle.

Standard sudoku rules apply.
Cells separated by a black dot are in a 1:2 ratio; cells separated by a white dot are consecutive. Not all dots are given.
Bi-directional Arrow rules: the cells along an arrow must sum to the one- or two-digit number in the circle or pill – Read In The Direction Of The Arrow.

Be aware that the f-puzzles software does not like the bi-directional arrows, so it may tell you something is wrong, when it may not be. If you don’t solve it with f-puzzles, there won’t be this problem.

https://f-puzzles.com/?id=ydo76k5h

I can't get the image of the puzzle to work. Follow the link to see what it looks like.
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06-13-2021 , 03:00 AM
Have you established that there is only one solution, or are we part of confirming that?
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06-13-2021 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight
Have you established that there is only one solution, or are we part of confirming that?
I have solved it, and guided it through a solver (they can't handle constraints on their own). It seems to have only one.
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06-14-2021 , 11:12 PM
That was a good one, took me about 45 mins.
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06-15-2021 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
That was a good one, took me about 45 mins.
Thanks! I would be interested in hearing about how you broke in. I posted it on the CtC discord, and the only solver seems to have bypassed my intended start.
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06-15-2021 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric
Thanks! I would be interested in hearing about how you broke in. I posted it on the CtC discord, and the only solver seems to have bypassed my intended start.
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I did my standard kropki/arrow start - fill in the possibles for black dots, single digit arrows of 3+ (none in this case), and double-digit arrows. It was easy to determine the 4 cells of double-digit arrows are (from top to bottom) 1/2, 3-9 (1/2 used up in column), 3/4 (1/2 used up in column), 1/2.

Since one of the Region2/Region5 arrows must be 23 or 24, it contains a 8 and 9, and either 6 or 7. I'll use Region2 for the explanation... If the Region2 arrow is 23 or 24 and contains 8/9, the only place 8/9 can go in Region3 is C9 not in arrow sum, and the 6 or 7 in C8 on the arrow. Now, since 8/9 can't be the Region3 sum, 7 can't be on its arrow... so it must be the 6 (making the Region2 arrow 23) with a 1 to make a 7 sum. Similarly, all this applies to Region5/Region6 as well.

So, 1 of the bigger arrows is 23 with 6/8/9, and the corresponding smaller arrow is 7 with 6/1. That means the other smaller arrow sum is 3/4/5/6, and its arrow can't contain a 1. That means it is either 5 with 2/3 or 6 with 2/4. Either way, there must be 2. That means in Region9, the 1 and 2 must go in C9, on the arrow, making its sum 3.

Now, look at Region3. If the big arrow sum is 23, then the small arrow is 1/6 (sum 7) and C9 is 8/9. And since that means the other big arrow is 41/14, the 4 in Region3 goes in R3C8. But, then where does 4 go in Region9? Nowhere. Therefore, the Region3 big arrow cannot be 23, so it is 1x. That makes Region6 arrow the 32/23. Things start falling into place from there.


Near the end:
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I like near the end of the solve, on the large 32 arrow, you're left with:

4/5/7
5/7/8
6
4/5
7
2

So if you make the 4/5 a 4, the others must be 5 and 8. But, R9C8 cell is 4/5/8 and sees all 3, so the 4/5 can't be 4.
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06-17-2021 , 02:43 AM
I'm confused about the pill in box 6. Does both arrows individually sum to the value in the pill, or combined add to the value?
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06-17-2021 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Onuzq
I'm confused about the pill in box 6. Does both arrows individually sum to the value in the pill, or combined add to the value?

The pills work this way:

<---(58)--->

The arrow pointing left sums to eighty five. The arrow pointing right sums to fifty eight.
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06-17-2021 , 08:09 AM
So was my break-in what you were looking for? Or was it similar to the other guy? Or something even completely different?
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06-17-2021 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
So was my break-in what you were looking for? Or was it similar to the other guy? Or something even completely different?
Not for potential solvers who want to be in the contest.

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It was SET based, from the columns and rows containing the arrows.
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06-17-2021 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric
Not for potential solvers who want to be in the contest.

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It was SET based, from the columns and rows containing the arrows.
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I just tried to do it that way but didn't get anywhere. I'm clearly not seeing what I should be.
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06-17-2021 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
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I just tried to do it that way but didn't get anywhere. I'm clearly not seeing what I should be.
Again, don't look unless you are Lattimer.

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A normal arrow with a single cell total will have its arrow cancel its circle.
A double cell total will leave a difference of 9, 18 , 27, ... Counting correctly will leave you with the leftmost 6 cells of R34 being 1,2,3 times two, and the bottom 3 cells of C9 also being 1,2,3.
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07-03-2021 , 11:41 AM
Anyone doing the puzzle hunt for July over on Patreon? I got through the first 2 perfectly fine, stuck on the 3rd though
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08-03-2021 , 07:09 PM
Sorry that it's been so long. I haven't had a lot of opportunity to work on new puzzles. Or solve puzzles for that matter. Here is my latest, a Thermo-Arrow sudoku.

Hot Swirls

Standard sudoku, arrow, and thermo rules apply. I’m concerned that this may be too easy. Please let me know what you thought of this puzzle. If you can show me any way to improve it, please do.

If you are unfamiliar with any of the variants, just post in the thread; I'm sure many would help.

Note that the circles interfere with the display of the thermos. You should be able to tell where the thermos end and which cells are on them.

https://f-puzzles.com/?id=ydkyaqvt

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08-04-2021 , 08:32 PM
Done. I did not find it as hard as the others you made but is not a breeze.
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08-05-2021 , 10:36 PM
9:31 time on it

Very smooth solve while also getting distracted by animals while doing it.

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Might've gotten lucky that I saw the trick to sort out the arrows in boxes 2 and 8 immediately
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08-05-2021 , 11:32 PM
31:33 gross

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I lost sight of the fact that the upper left arrow was also a thermometer. I was stuck a good 15 mins and wound up bifercating a few moves in frustration, which revealed the thermometer when it errored. Quite the dope slap!
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08-06-2021 , 01:27 PM
about 45 mins for me... wonder if we all got the same solution. Not sure if Eric tested it for a unique solution or whether we were part of that test?

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The middle is key obv

in the corners you have 6789 and 1 in the middle with a 2345 cross. The 9 has to be lower right in the middle sector. I got the biggest boost from focussing on the sector 3 and 6, and what numbers could and could not be in play to get to 9 in sector 6. And what could be used to get to 6, 7 or 8 in the lower left square of sector 3. 1 and 2 had to be in column 8 rows 123, and this helped determine that the 9 had to be a 234, and the 2 had to be middle right in sector 6.

After that everything fell together with enough info to complete.
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08-06-2021 , 01:42 PM
It does have a unique solution. I used Andrew's Sudoku Solver while constructing to make sure.
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08-06-2021 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric
It does have a unique solution. I used Andrew's Sudoku Solver while constructing to make sure.
sent you what I got
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08-17-2021 , 06:12 PM
Just discovered Simon streaming playing The Witness. Great if you're into that kind of thing. He gets so happy and giddy!

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