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10-22-2009 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyMatt1
lynching Elliot was seriously the worst thing that happened... like really?
Who said this?

No, I'll quote the worst thing that happened; give me a sec.
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10-22-2009 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Thingyman
You're eager to show us this because one of your wolf buddies is listed as a peek?
ROLFMAO.

I was spot on.
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10-22-2009 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by The Evil Polka Man
Also, PTV's ability really caught me by surprise. When making the roles, I kind of brushed over it and it turned out to become a key aspect of the village's game plan.

For future games, do you think that type of role (obviously with some alterations) could be added to other games?
I was so glad when he quoted one of elliotr's posts. I thought we would never be able to kill him!
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10-22-2009 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
What game designers sometimes don't realize is that godfathers can render seers worse than useless, particularly when the roles are not know. With two godfathers in the game, we'd have had a better chance with no seers.
yeah I was talking about this with wahoo

>seers increases the chances that a godfather gets peeked

especially with two godfathers it's devastating because no one ever expects there to be >1
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10-22-2009 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
yeah I was talking about this with wahoo

>seers increases the chances that a godfather gets peeked

especially with two godfathers it's devastating because no one ever expects there to be >1
Ya, i can agree with this. Actually, McAvoy and Nich both peeked villager and i peeked Agent, so ya, seers are almost helping the wolves.
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10-22-2009 , 01:33 AM
I think this game came out less balanced than it was created because of a few things.

1. Very good wolf play from a few key roles
2. Very poor village play from a few key roles
3. Minimal participation from far too many villagers.
4. an overpowered role in Jigsaw that basically determined the outcome of the game. If he lives long wolves cannot lose. If he dies early wolves cannot win.

If say Jigsaw dies n1 there is probably no amount of great wolf play that can win us the game.

really 1 tweak such as keeping amanda as the only godfather would have balanced this game quite well.
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10-22-2009 , 01:34 AM
Let the following never be forgotten:
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
up until last night i have been working hard for the village. Atak betrayed me, insulted me, & mocked me & it felt great pulling the trigger. It had to be done, and it's over with. I am on the village team. I ask for forgiveness & i will give forgiveness. All is not what it seems. . . And i am not allowed to say anything else about that. i can save a villager again tonight. . . AND I WILL. so. . . Make a choice
My betrayal? I openly discussed her obvious softclaim, as several others had, lest any inattentive villagers miss what was going on. My mocking? Telling her that people who wanted their roles not to be outed shouldn't soft-claim them.

Her response: kill someone whom she said she knew was a member of her own team, whom she knows to be skilled and who was working hard, and who had access to the ability to save two other teammates. She did this instead of saving another teammate's life.

In effect: I criticized her play, and her response was to say "**** you" to her entire team.


In case one thinks that post was an anomoly:
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
Save your breath, drubell. They just don't get me. DUH!!

Listen....My role states that I choose between forgiveness or vengance.
I just chose vengance last night. I am deeply sorry....but, you know....woman's scorn and all. Atak shouldn't have gone running his mouth, and pissed me off like that. All I ask is for a little cooperation.....just a little respect......but...NOOOOOOO.....you all choose to laugh at me instead.

So, here we are. I can either save you....or I will kill you....period.

Night one.....I voted to save Danika. I did save her....but someone else killed her. I know...because I asked if I was role blocked, and that's what I was told.

Night two....AGAIN......I chose to save the village.....so they can laugh at me some more......and NOOOOOO......I was role blocked.

So, last night.....I lost my head. So sue me.....lynch me....whatever....I get no respect anyway.

Elliot
Red highlighted shows the attitude.


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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
Oh...yah...p.s. I fogot to mention that I also know the combination that Atak WAS looking for. If you will notice my posts....I told him that I was going to save him. And....the numbers in the clock ARE in it. I had every intention of saving him, until he ruined my game.

I should also tell you that I have an angel....and it won't be that easy to kill me....but, you can go ahead and try, if you wish. If I don't get over this vengance mode that I'm in.....I might just help the wolves.

So.....I'm off to work now...k? Bye, bye....have a great day.
Not much to say about this one.
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10-22-2009 , 01:38 AM
yea... BEG should stop playing WW if shes gonna ruin the game like she did
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10-22-2009 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
I disgaree with this one; I think it would still have been very tough. If village had played well, they would have had a shot, but playing badly or in some cases even average wasn't an option. Consider, for example, the initial setup between bigger and me. Assuming he got to the thread before me, he needed to realize that his PM from the mod was a lie, else a villager died. Possible, yes, and I think he probably should have done it, but assuming it will happen isn't fair.

Also note that the conversion power never came into play — take it away and the wolves hit must lynch at f11. Make Jigsaw peek wolf and f9 or maybe f7 happens, but the wolves are still in good shape.

As I said, the better team won for sure, but balancing it really well would be tricky imo.
I think given the theme, the setup between you and biggerboat was not at all bad. If bigger would have read his role correctly he would have been fine. I also believe most people that have watched the Saw movies would have figured this out. I do not mean this as a slight to biggerboat in any way.
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10-22-2009 , 01:49 AM
TEPM, who tore the village to pieces?
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10-22-2009 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LuckyDevil
I think given the theme, the setup between you and biggerboat was not at all bad. If bigger would have read his role correctly he would have been fine. I also believe most people that have watched the Saw movies would have figured this out. I do not mean this as a slight to biggerboat in any way.
Note I deleted the post — thinking about it more, the balance may be closer than I thought.

Re bigger's role, I know I'd have been in some trouble if I'd have gotten it (with no knowledge at the time of any of the movies). Yes, one should research, but people don't always do so. Meh, I'm not sure... and it wasn't even tremendously damaging, I guess, as awe got a cleared villager (well, almost) out of it. Just particularly aware of it because it was me.
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10-22-2009 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gammoner
Thanks for an entertaining thread for me to read, poggers That was fun to watch, cool game TEPM.
Come play next time.
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10-22-2009 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyMatt1
TEPM, who tore the village to pieces?
Biggerboat was selected to be converted the the wolf team. There was going to be a follow-up to this with the write-up in the death of Jigsaw, but that never happened...

I also wanted to include a :Go back to where it all began" point near the end of the game in which this thread was locked and everyone was redirected back to the sign-up thread. The final post of the sign-up thread hints at this.

I'm also disappointed that nobody has figured out the "Feel what I feel" puzzle.
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10-22-2009 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyMatt1
TEPM, who tore the village to pieces?
bigger was my guess

we minioned him the night before.
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10-22-2009 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
Note I deleted the post — thinking about it more, the balance may be closer than I thought.

Re bigger's role, I know I'd have been in some trouble if I'd have gotten it (with no knowledge at the time of any of the movies). Yes, one should research, but people don't always do so. Meh, I'm not sure... and it wasn't even tremendously damaging, I guess, as awe got a cleared villager (well, almost) out of it. Just particularly aware of it because it was me.
Personally I liked the situation between you and bigger. I did not expect him to go crazy in the first hour like he did, but it seemed pretty reasonable in my opinion and also led to an interesting d1.
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10-22-2009 , 01:58 AM
So I vote to kill Lucky, then get myself killed trying to save him after I got a PM saying he is evil!?*%#@&@%*(#@&@*((!*!#*!*
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10-22-2009 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OnThInIcE911
bigger was my guess

we minioned him the night before.
This.
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10-22-2009 , 01:58 AM
Fun game though. Thanks TEPM and bsball
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10-22-2009 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by globetrotter
So I vote to kill Lucky, then get myself killed trying to save him after I got a PM saying he is evil!?*%#@&@%*(#@&@*((!*!#*!*
lol
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10-22-2009 , 02:00 AM
i still think the vital to one's health thing fits morgan's role too well, but i like the idea of stuff like that
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10-22-2009 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by globetrotter
So I vote to kill Lucky, then get myself killed trying to save him after I got a PM saying he is evil!?*%#@&@%*(#@&@*((!*!#*!*
I should probably explain this:

When only one good agent is left, that agent is PM'd the role of Hoffman.

It just so happens that you were peeked that night before by Amanda, which allowed Lucky to use the "take a bullet" ability.
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10-22-2009 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by globetrotter
So I vote to kill Lucky, then get myself killed trying to save him after I got a PM saying he is evil!?*%#@&@%*(#@&@*((!*!#*!*
I tried to save you... Muhahahahahaha...
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10-22-2009 , 02:00 AM
Nice game wolves and thanks a lot TEPM, I liked this game a lot.

I will never forgive esse for doing a CFD on me SEVEN MINUTES FROM EOD WHEN I WAS AFK. That was absolutely ridiculous.
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10-22-2009 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by The Evil Polka Man
I should probably explain this:

When only one good agent is left, that agent is PM'd the role of Hoffman.

It just so happens that you were peeked that night before by Amanda, which allowed Lucky to use the "take a bullet" ability.
This.
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10-22-2009 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
Nice game wolves and thanks a lot TEPM, I liked this game a lot.

I will never forgive esse for doing a CFD on me SEVEN MINUTES FROM EOD WHEN I WAS AFK. That was absolutely ridiculous.
The ironic thing is that the village killed every cleared villager except the two that were actually wolves.
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