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Originally Posted by dnkyhunter31
ok, i just woke up, and i have given the thread a brief read over.
1) i dont understand why WinEveryRacex explisitly argues against my idea that all villagers should come out with fake peeks d1(post #31). it extreamly helps the seers make their peeks more obvious while giving the seers tons of cover. with 22 villagers and 2 seers, we need to know who our seers peeked when they do die. i was a seer in the last game i played, and i almost got nk'ed n1(confirmed by rene) by the village not helping give me any cover. that said, win making this arguement to me is leaning him on my villa list.
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No....it's unnecessary on d1, and helps the wolves scratch off villagers w/ wrong peeks off their seer lists. If you really want to give good cover to seers, play the game and make reads on other players. The seers do not, and should not, be extremely obvious with their peeks, they just need to be careful with how they address other players. The seers need to make it so that the village will be able to re-read them after they are dead, after the village KNOWS they are seer, and THEN be able to find and recognize their peeks. The seers should also be extremely wary of clearing someone hard that was not peeked village by them, they can still do it (and should when they have strong reads), but they need to make sure it won't be seen as a peek.
Idk how you played seer and are making this argument, but my guess is you didn't make it too far into the game, amirite?
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Originally Posted by gtpitch
My initial thoughts
WER seems very villagery right now but his interaction with brian confuses me
Brian is in the late stage of an ongoing game (which means no one can talk about it ldo). He can't predict how I will react to him going after me. If he starts his wolf/sk game by going after me on d1 while also playing late game in another thread, then good for him, but this is not what I'd expect.
I'm also surprised that this confused you..
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Originally Posted by dnkyhunter31
but the thing here, to me atleast is, what happens if no one is leaving and fakes. that will cause the wolves to have to pick at random. say around n2 or n3 the wolves hit a seer. this seer wasent leaving any peeks so as to not be the nk. now the village is up ****s creek with out a paddle.
now imagine all the villagers leaving their fake peeks. that allows the seers to leave there real peeks as transparent as possible. this in turn allows the village to very easily go back and see who got peeked and who did not when the seers are nk'ed.
tell me if you understand this.
No one should be leaving explicit fakes during the first two days, and probably not ever unless they have GOOD reasons to do so. This is a rookie game, and generally the wolves are going to suck at seer hunting. Do not make things easy on them. How will seers get cover then? Simple, the whole village makes reads on players, the seers can do the same while being careful with how their posts will be interpreted.
THE SEERS SHOULD NOT LEAVE TRANSPARENT PEEKS. Seriously, if every day everyone leaves transparent "peeks", after 3-4 days the seer candidates will be significantly narrowed down. It's not the end of the world if you're a seer and your village peek isn't found, especially if this can help you in tricking/leveling the wolves and making it deep into the game. Nothing scares the wolves more than a late game with live seers.
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Originally Posted by djstu
He's saying that it helps the wolves if your fake peek is that one of them is a villa. It narrows down the pool of possible seers.
Though tbh I can see both sides, if nobody provides seer cover then it's gonna be hard for them to help us much without instantly putting a target on their heads.
This.
There is more than one way of giving seer cover. Every villager should be thinking about seer cover btw.
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Originally Posted by dnkyhunter31
I spoke to Rene about why the dident nk me n2 after I came out as seer. His answer there was the wolves dident think the seer would do this. He said that after I peeked Card, and then said I trusten umaine 100%, I would have been nk'ed if CDL was there.
I still thonm I had to come out d2 because of the amount of cover I did not recieve d1. That's why I'm pushing for all villagers to leave fake peeks like I did on page 1.
Lol I was going to vote you but after this post I'll have to think about it a bit more. Seers, please don't come out on day 2.... :\