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Old 05-12-2009, 05:25 PM   #3301
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

gonna respond goofy, I think you took some things out of context

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- 380: wtf??? thinks aloud wondering if we should keep our wagons close together so we figure out who the RR is. obviously the wolves would LOVE it if we cleared that up for them.
This for instance. I wasn't advocating we do it, I was wondering aloud if there would be any gain in doing so. It was speculation, harmless speculation at that. re-read more of the discussion than just my posts and you'll get what i mean

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- 968: asks caedus if he really has that much of a strong villa read on nightwood. I think this could easily be a wolf probing caedus (who had been dropping seer cover hints about me and now nightwood apparently) to see if he could be a seer. caedus did then get NKed that night.
Would a wolf do that though? Openly question somebody he suspected of being a seer? I think that's pretty unlikely. In any case I'm asking for caedus' opinion here because I think he's an amazing ww player and he and I had conflicting reads on nightwood, so I wanted his take before really trying to wagon night.

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- 1261: does a complete reread of gtpitch. points out a post where gtpitch says WER/brian/nightwood suspicious and says that usually wolves include one wolf in these lists. of course, we now know that everyone in that list is villa. dj gives villa points to mdom, oobrian, thinks people looking wolfy (from gtpitch) are malgin, mrsbutton
- 1292: gtpitch d2 analysis: villa points to karak, nightwood, stark, brian, slink, corsakh, possible wolfy points to mburke, bingo (interestingly because he pointed out another gtpitch wolf list which DID have a wolf on it, corsakh, but dj thought corsakh was villa)
yeah I was almost completely wrong, par for the course unfortunately.

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- 1354: switches to mrsbutton at last minute, v/v wagon though so doesn't really matter. his reason for switching is interesting though, he says it needs to be closer. curious if he's trying to sniff out the 3x villa. malgin was up like 7-3 before dj switched (and made it 6-4).
I voted for mrsbutton (and it wasn't last minute) because malgin was racing ahead at the time and we get much more information from 2 wagons that one. Seemed like a good idea, and there was time to change my vote again before EOD to malgin who I liked better as a possible wolf, so my voting button just served to tighten the race a bit and get us more information than we would have had otherwise.

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- 1417: switches back to malgin. between when he voted for mrsbutton and now, mrsbutton had taken the lead and was now up 6-4, so it seems like he's going back to even up the vote count. this seriously reeks of 3x hunting, esp coming from the guy who advocated that we intentionally rig out votes to figure out who the 3x is on d1.
Again, I always liked malgin better than buttons and said so, but I didn't want the malgin wagon to take off without competition. Once the mrsbutton wagon got going again I switched to the person I felt was the more likely wolf.

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- 2666: says we (villa) have much better leads on the SK than the wolves at this point. ok, that's just ******ed, because the villa has LESS information than the wolves. our read on anyone CAN'T be better than what the wolves know. this really sounds like a wolf trying to get villas to hunt the SK for them. although the last two times i've made that argument in favor of someone being a wolf I was wrong so w/e.
You misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying that the village had better leads on who the SK was than who the wolves were. Not that we had better leads on the SK than the wolves did.
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:40 PM   #3302
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

One thing I can't wrap my head around is that if oobrian and jumanji are both villa, it's an ez game for the wolves. You leave them both alive and there's a 1000% chance one of them gets mislynched.

So why did they kill half of that combo? To try to confuse us into taking attention away from Jumanji? Maybe he IS a wolf and they knew we would lynch either oobrian or jumanji today if they left oobrian alive, and they didn't want to leave a 50% chance that we nailed a wolf, so that's why they killed oobrian and maybe thought they could draw attention away from Jumanji as a result.

And like, sure, it could be a level, but it's just ******ed and FPS if it is because like I said, there's a 1000% chance we mislynch one of them today if they're both villa and they were both still alive.

djstu, is this the same thing you were saying about the NK?
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:42 PM   #3303
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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bah, I was typing something up but had an idea:

goofy, this is directed solely at you...

1. Assuming each of us is a villa (while I think there's a small chance you are a wolf, there's nothing I can do about it now), that leaves 2 wolves and 1 villa.

2. If we can lock up who the other villa is and get them on our side and to vote with us, we can win, no matter what happens. The only problem is jobeen is not going to side with me under any circumstances. So regardless of what jobeen is, we cannot get her on our side.

3. So how about trying to determine which of djstu/jumanji is more likely to be a villa and then moving forward in that manner? I see no real positive options here because of today's situation, but this might be easier than trying to figure out exact pairs. Let's take it one day at a time.
If Jumanji/djstu is a pair though then we lose with this plan, right? You're assuming that b/c jobeen won't trust you, she is a wolf?

I'm probably just stupid right now though, I need lunch.
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:48 PM   #3304
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One thing I can't wrap my head around is that if oobrian and jumanji are both villa, it's an ez game for the wolves. You leave them both alive and there's a 1000% chance one of them gets mislynched.

So why did they kill half of that combo? To try to confuse us into taking attention away from Jumanji? Maybe he IS a wolf and they knew we would lynch either oobrian or jumanji today if they left oobrian alive, and they didn't want to leave a 50% chance that we nailed a wolf, so that's why they killed oobrian and maybe thought they could draw attention away from Jumanji as a result.

And like, sure, it could be a level, but it's just ******ed and FPS if it is because like I said, there's a 1000% chance we mislynch one of them today if they're both villa and they were both still alive.

djstu, is this the same thing you were saying about the NK?
not really, I was pointing out that might make some sense to kill O0brian to protect jumanji. O0brian and jobeen were the only two people alive who had really gone after jumanji in the past iirc, O0brian actually voted him the day he died before switching to you.

I think that it's possible they tried to take advantage of brians goofy vote to make it appear to be a craptastic attempt to make you more suspicious and to cover up the real reason they wanted him dead; He'd shown a willingness to vote for jumanji.

So different reasoning than yours, but we seem to be agreed that the overall goal might have been to keep jumanji alive.
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:51 PM   #3305
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

that is true, I guess, ugh I don't know what to do
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:54 PM   #3306
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Well I think we all agree Jumanji is a good vote today, yes?

So now we figure out his partner.
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:54 PM   #3307
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

jobeen, would love to hear your thoughts btw
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:13 PM   #3308
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Well I think we all agree Jumanji is a good vote today, yes?

So now we figure out his partner.
i think he's our best bet yeah.

I'm 55/45 split jobeen/stark as his partner.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:13 PM   #3309
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I will make my vote in the next post. We lose if I die anyway, so my vote can't be any worse.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:13 PM   #3310
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

It's going to be in 10 min btw
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:15 PM   #3311
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I will make my vote in the next post. We lose if I die anyway, so my vote can't be any worse.
If you are a villa jumanji you're doing an absolutely terrible job at defending yourself.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:15 PM   #3312
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

What do you want me to say?
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:18 PM   #3313
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What do you want me to say?
I dunno, I'm not villa because X thing I did would be completely stupid/almost never done as a wolf? Put up some actual evidence
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:21 PM   #3314
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I dunno, I'm not villa because X thing I did would be completely stupid/almost never done as a wolf? Put up some actual evidence
or rather I am villa...., i suck at writing
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:25 PM   #3315
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

hi im not gonna be around for much longer got work and stuff so will be voting in next 20 minutes
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:26 PM   #3316
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I dunno, I'm not villa because X thing I did would be completely stupid/almost never done as a wolf? Put up some actual evidence
I've said exactly what I'm doing at all points of the game. I've been said to look so villa and then so wolfy within a day of each other. Peoples knocks on me is that I'm so UTR. Does it really seem like I'm the type that posts on werewolf all day? I usually only post when I must defend myself. I have a strange idea of the wolves, and it may seem like a crazy vote, but I think in the end it's the best I got.

I won't say who my second vote is but I like a vote ot Jobeen for the fact that I think as useless as I may seem, Jobeen would be even worse in a final 3. If I'm not lynched and we do catch a wolf, I am sure to be in the final 3 because there's no way the wolves would lynch someone like myself who's most likely be mislynched.

Call me crazy but my gut feeling says the wolves are Jobeen and Goofyballer. All this talk about "pairs" between the two is extremely strange. If any of you can discredit the chance the are "pairs" then I might change my vote. I'm going to vote one of those people though 90% very soon.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:26 PM   #3317
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

well this is it I guess, I have to eat dinner but will check in and be around until EOD after that
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:27 PM   #3318
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hi im not gonna be around for much longer got work and stuff so will be voting in next 20 minutes
care to expound on that? Any thoughts? reads? what are your leans?
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:28 PM   #3319
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Well I think we all agree Jumanji is a good vote today, yes?

So now we figure out his partner.
nah i don't for now i still think stark/djstu are our best bets
im alittle wary of following you at the moment coz well i have the last two days and well you were there.

i think i'll stick with my gut feeling for now
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:31 PM   #3320
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:33 PM   #3321
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

STARK

if the wolves don't jump on this iv'e found a wolf if not good game

no one's gonna take some action so will see yah guys
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:34 PM   #3322
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if the wolves don't jump on this iv'e found a wolf if not good game

no one's gonna take some action so will see yah guys
here we go i guess.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:36 PM   #3323
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wtfffff @ jobeen and jumanji both coming in like "ok I'm going to vote now"
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:37 PM   #3324
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If this doesn't get maj'ed, go straight for jobeen.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:37 PM   #3325
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oh look no one's jumping on
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