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Old 05-11-2009, 08:53 PM   #3201
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

err in case that wasn't clear I'll be here until EOD
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:55 PM   #3202
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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Old 05-11-2009, 08:55 PM   #3203
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I'm here, reading through the posts from today now.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:57 PM   #3204
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

congrats on graduating by the way

and with the exception of the first weekend i have not been AFK for the whole game but like you i also have obligations like working to put a roof over my head. Im a chef so have ****ed up hours and untill yesterday hadn't had a day off in 13 days.

I asked you why you thought Brian was so wolfy ....no answer
i asked for feed back on my ideas ....... you attack me
i ask if your AFK ..... you come back spewing about it

If you answered my questions i might not have come to the conclutions i did
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:00 PM   #3205
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

wtf? I've said about 100 million times that I want to kill 00brian because I felt like there was an UTR wolf and it was either him or JD and I thought he was more likely because JD was subbed in for, I also said I felt like one of mdom/karak/djstu was a wolf, and I want to go there too

asdoajsdlaksjdlajsdlasjdlajsdad

I pointed out how your ideas were just throwing **** against the wall (those pairs seem extremely arbitrary

I am irritated about the AFK thing because it is the height of hypocrisy for you to say that me not snap answering looks suspicious after you missed so much time in the game.

That good enough? Also I am irritated because the past two games I have been lynched towards the end after it was EXTREMELY CLEAR I was a villa, but randos just decided to wagon me and almost cause us to lose (and in one case completely cause us to lose).
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:05 PM   #3206
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

thoughts before I dive into mdom's post o' bad logic

1) Still think jobeen is a villa, just one off his rocker. Still, we can use him as an attack dog to draw out wolfy responses (that is if he didn't clear 75% of the people playing)

2) Goofy is alive either because he's completely and utterly wrong on his reads or because he's a wolf. I don't think he's a wolf.

3) Jumanji and O0Brian are way too UTR for their own good. They could at least be helpful
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:08 PM   #3207
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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wtf? I've said about 100 million times that I want to kill 00brian because I felt like there was an UTR wolf and it was either him or JD and I thought he was more likely because JD was subbed in for, I also said I felt like one of mdom/karak/djstu was a wolf, and I want to go there too

asdoajsdlaksjdlajsdlasjdlajsdad

I pointed out how your ideas were just throwing **** against the wall (those pairs seem extremely arbitrary

I am irritated about the AFK thing because it is the height of hypocrisy for you to say that me not snap answering looks suspicious after you missed so much time in the game.

That good enough? Also I am irritated because the past two games I have been lynched towards the end after it was EXTREMELY CLEAR I was a villa, but randos just decided to wagon me and almost cause us to lose (and in one case completely cause us to lose).


dude settle down!
never said this was suspicius at all the first time i asked about why you thought brian was wolfy i stated i think i missed this.

im not attacking you at all i just posted my ideas as iv'e said i am only really sure about goofy being a villa therefore everyone eles is suspect to me and honestly your the only one that replied. With irrational anger at that.

and perhaps you need to change the way you play the end of games if your constantly lynched villager at this stage
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:11 PM   #3208
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

**** it, we can do this now b/c there's a 50% chance mdom isn't even reading this thread and even if he is, a good chance he won't spew like I'm hoping he will.

mdom's posting today has made me much more suspicious of him than I was previously. In particular, I think his suggestion of djstu/stark being the last two wolves is terribad. His case against djstu is built on very few posts (a sequence against mburke that doesn't really seem all that suspicious, and the corsakh thing is meaningless since him claiming seer threw us all for a loop). I'm not saying djstu is 100% clear but mdom's behavior makes perfect sense as a wolf because the village is currently on the track of focusing on {jumanji, oobrian} as the major wolves and to a lesser extent {mdom, jobeen} as secondary wolves. Getting the village to open up the pool of possible wolves to a bigger group of players is hugely beneficial for the wolves at this point, as it decreases the likelihood that any individual player in that pool is a wolf. To go against this, I think, mdom would have to be a lot more vocal about his reads, and I think it's odd that if he truly believes djstu/stark are the last two wolves he hasn't said jack **** the last two days about the fact that we've been completely ignoring them. This "read" of his seems completely disingenuous and designed to steer us in the wrong direction.

So, I think we should lynch mdom tonight. If he's not a wolf, I'm not positive where we go from here, but if he is, I think we lynch jumanji/oobrian in no particular order (oobrian first probably) and ship the win, although someone should still closely examine djstu tomorrow (stark, I trust you w/ that task).

jobeen - try not to get so frustrated that we aren't all listening to you. Don't take this the wrong way, but it is your first game and I think you still have a bit to learn about the strategy of the game and all - a lot of the strategies you're suggesting simply aren't likely to nab us the two remaining wolves in the time we have left. However, I still think you've contributed a decent amount today if only because I'm pretty convinced you're a villager now given the effort you're putting forth as well of the tone of your posts, and having another cleared villa in the group is a huge, huge benefit for our team going into the last two or three lynches, so because of that I'd still say you did a good job today.

So: mdom (don't maj! but plz voice your support if you like this idea)
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:13 PM   #3209
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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By the way my pairing of players was determined by what eveyone eles had posted
at some stage during this game it was stated that
if card was a wolf so was i
if karak was a wolf so was jumanji
if jd was a wolf so was mdom
Card, karak and jd were all villa's so i moved on to other pairs you/djstu
goofy/brian

now apparently that is wrong and i randomly placed people in these partnerships without any information to try and lynch you?
come on man i did put some thought in to this if im totally on the wrong track im sorry but at least im not spaming the thread with one liners saying
"lol im not a wolf"
i am actively trying to find wolves coz i want village to win!
just pointing out my resoning for the pairs just in case you missed this one
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:15 PM   #3210
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

as I've said before I felt mdom is a definite lynch in the near future after karak came back villa, and I guess we can do that today...I just would have rather waited one more day because I think what 00brian is would tell us much, much more about what is going on

but goofy you seem pretty determined and I'll trust your lead here

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Old 05-11-2009, 09:15 PM   #3211
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skimming djtsu heres some stuff i found
3 villa wagon, w/e
I bet if I looked hard enough I'd be able to find almost everybody here advocating villa wagons, need I remind you you pushed very hard for a villa wagon recently. We suck at hunting wolves, me being just as wrong as the rest of you makes me wolfy somehow?

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this sequence seems fishy to me, esp the last post
lol, what's fishy? I thought mburke was a stupid villa because he played the exact same way in a turbo and came up villa. I don't have to think a person is good at ww to read them as villa. Explain your reasoning here, if any.


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wolf doing some sk hunting, hoping card actually knew?
You're kidding me right? Killing the SK was something the village would always need to do, if card actually knew who the SK was we should have gotten that knowledge from him before he got killed again.

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is so sure of lynching corsakh when we conclude hes seer peeked wolf, but then right when corsakh claims seer he does a total 180? meh
cors claimed seer, not voting a claimed seer is basic strategy. If it had been a mustlynch situation I wouldn't have changed my vote since I was pretty sure corsakh was a wolf but it wasn't and lynching him would have been a bad play, it's not worth taking the 5% chance of cors actually being a seer when we don't lose anything from not immediately lynching him

Honestly mdom, this entire post from you seems forced as all hell.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:16 PM   #3212
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

also goofy I think djstu is almost a must lynch tomorrow barring something weird happening if mdom turns up villa, will do a reread though if we get there
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:18 PM   #3213
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as I've said before I felt mdom is a definite lynch in the near future after karak came back villa, and I guess we can do that today...I just would have rather waited one more day because I think what 00brian is would tell us much, much more about what is going on

but goofy you seem pretty determined and I'll trust your lead here

mdom
I'm terrified about being wrong here since the cost of mistakes are so big now...I would say {jumanji, oobrian, mdom} contains the remaining 2 wolves with an outside chance of djstu being one as well, do you think that's off? I could go oobrian today too maybe but I'm not sure if we learn a ton more if we vote him and are wrong than if we vote mdom and are wrong.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:20 PM   #3214
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

jobeen, you need to realize that the wolves are probably not acting together at all. Trying to logically clear people based on pairings where one has come up villa is horrible, wolves latching onto and following the lead of a villager as cover is a time honored ww tradition.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:21 PM   #3215
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

ok would like a vote count so i know where we are
obviously im not gonna sway anyone today but if i end up being right exspect me to spam this thread with i told you so posts at end of game. Fair enough?
if im completly wrong well**** i tried which more than we can say for some
will go with MDOM in the interest of getting something started at least then there will be some action
im relying on your past game experience here
VOTE COUNT PLEASE
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:21 PM   #3216
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

ok would like a vote count so i know where we are
obviously im not gonna sway anyone today but if i end up being right exspect me to spam this thread with i told you so posts at end of game. Fair enough?
if im completly wrong well**** i tried which more than we can say for some
will go with MDOM in the interest of getting something started at least then there will be some action
im relying on your past game experience here
VOTE COUNT PLEASE
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:22 PM   #3217
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I'm terrified about being wrong here since the cost of mistakes are so big now...I would say {jumanji, oobrian, mdom} contains the remaining 2 wolves with an outside chance of djstu being one as well, do you think that's off? I could go oobrian today too maybe but I'm not sure if we learn a ton more if we vote him and are wrong than if we vote mdom and are wrong.
Agreed on the latter part. I've been partially suspicious of djstu for about three or four days now, and will do the reread tomorrow if mdom comes up villa. Anyway I think more or less he is just as likely to be a wolf as jumanji, yet I still think 00brian is the most likely to be a wolf of all four (but obv I see the logic behind mdom today).
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:22 PM   #3218
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sorry about that conection went down
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:22 PM   #3219
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jobeen if that pervious post was meant to be a vote for mdom, you didn't bold anything, we're one away from a maj on him.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:23 PM   #3220
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[1] djstu
[1] goofyballer voted for mdom
[0] jobeen
[0] JumanjiBoard voted for O0Brian0O
[2] mdom88 voted for djstu
[1] O0Brian0O voted for goofyballer
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:23 PM   #3221
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

two away from a maj unless I missed a vote for mdom somewhere. fwiw I don't think we should maj until the last possible minute.

stark, if mdom is a wolf do you think that clears djstu? I think it'd be weird of him to bring up dj like that if they were partners since dj has been kinda low on the suspicion radar
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:24 PM   #3222
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two away from a maj unless I missed a vote for mdom somewhere. fwiw I don't think we should maj until the last possible minute.

stark, if mdom is a wolf do you think that clears djstu? I think it'd be weird of him to bring up dj like that if they were partners since dj has been kinda low on the suspicion radar
not entirely, but it makes him much less likely to be a wolf imo
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:25 PM   #3223
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jobeen, you need to realize that the wolves are probably not acting together at all. Trying to logically clear people based on pairings where one has come up villa is horrible, wolves latching onto and following the lead of a villager as cover is a time honored ww tradition.
wolves working as a pair not my idea found it throughout the thread brought up by more experienced players than me
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:25 PM   #3224
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[1] djstu
[1] goofyballer voted for mdom
[0] jobeen
[0] JumanjiBoard voted for O0Brian0O
[2] mdom88 voted for djstu
[1] O0Brian0O voted for goofyballer
[0] starkwired voted for mdom

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Old 05-11-2009, 09:26 PM   #3225
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stark, if mdom is a wolf do you think that clears djstu? I think it'd be weird of him to bring up dj like that if they were partners since dj has been kinda low on the suspicion radar
I hope so, if you guys lynch me after he turns up wolf it'll be gd tragic.
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