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Old 05-11-2009, 12:46 AM   #3126
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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I mean, it's one thing for stark to post that out of emotion (I admit I almost made the same post, esp because I was expecting to get NKed) b/c I ****ing hate OTI for messing with us like that, but if stark made that as a calculated and faked response at a time when he knows he's not supposed to post...like I said, if stark's a wolf and that kind of angleshooting is how they want to win, we have to give it to them I guess and assume from this point on that stark is a villa.
just want to clarify is this the only reason you think he's a villa?
And just so i know why do we have to give it to them?
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:49 AM   #3127
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another possibility is that the wolves wanted to implicate goofy by doing this and induce a mislynch from us today. this would mean one of the early people to bring up goofy today could be woof
yep could be

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who do you think the wolves are and why?
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:22 AM   #3128
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Old 05-11-2009, 04:53 AM   #3129
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Hey all slow day isn't it?

Just a couple of ideas i thought i'd throw out there.

Idea 2: when looking for wolves consider who their partner is. This I think will be especially important as we get down in players. I really think it's getting to the point where the wolves will be working together without wanting to look like they're working together. (this will be especially true on days where the wagons aren't v-v).






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I'm also not liking mdom that much as I had his partner down as JD so now he's not a wolf I don't think mdom is. Also I think mdom reads fairly villa.






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jumanji reread

fwiw if karak is a wolf then looking at jumanji as his partner might prove fruitful. but I think we should lynch karak before jumanji.







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karak reread

jumanji is a possible partner if only b/c they've never said **** about each other the whole game and they both were the only two people who hopped on the card2.0 wagon after I tried to start it.


Ok so we are looking for wolf pairs now so by this reasoning we should have enough information to find the wolves lets go over this

below is a list of who i think the pairs have been in the last couple of days.

MDOM-----JD
JUMANJI---KARAK
JOBEEN----CARDASSIAN
GOOFY-----OOBRIAN
DJSTU------STARK

DEAD VILLAGERS lol

If my pairing is correct Mdom, jumanji and myself can not be wolves
this leaves us with four potential wolves


Goofy is 100% villager here therefore this clears brian

Which leaves us with two wolves
DJSTU & STARK
gg

i know goofy said they were by far his biggest villa leans but they have been so UTR its not funny
(where i come from we have exams during the week and not on the weekends could be different where you guys are, i don't know you tell me!)

The fact that goofy was not night killed could only mean one of two things
1)he is a wolf! (i don't belive it)
2)His reads are so totally wrong that he is absolutly no threat to the wolves at all
(no offence man)

re 2) card was killed because he was seen a a much larger threat to the village as he was following along the lines of looking for partnership wolves and with last nights NK would have had enough info to expose the wolves

EG: clearing MDOM because of the jd lynch
lastnights lynch would have given him one more cleared villa one step closer to the wolves

with all this said

VOTE STARK
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Old 05-11-2009, 04:59 AM   #3130
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I don't mean to disrespect the effort you put into that post or anything, but just because one member of a possible pair of wolves is a villa, doesn't mean that the other guy is automatically a villa. Like, the logical statement "if karak is a wolf, jumanji is very likely a wolf as well" does not mean that if karak is a villa, jumanji is any less likely to be a wolf. I think the fact that your logic arrived at the conclusion that the 2nd and 3rd-most villa people in the game (in my eyes) are the two remaining wolves should tell you something is wrong with it.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:01 AM   #3131
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Like, think general probability/logic - the statement "If A, then B" says nothing about the probability of B if A is not true.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:28 AM   #3132
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Ok see what your saying but if your reads are correct you should of been dead days ago. you thought so i thought so everyone thought so so the only explainations are
1 YOUR READS ARE WRONG
2 ITS A HUGE LEVEL ON THE WOLVES PART

i don't think the wolves take the the risk with this kind of play

i see where your coming from but our recent line of thinking has got us no where village has only lynched one wolf and that just about went wrong beacause we were scared of walking off the beaten path and taking a risk and going against the don't kill a seer claim or there lynches

take a chance dude and at least look into it okay

if we don't get a wolf today it's must lynch tomorow and village is ****ed
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:31 AM   #3133
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

OObrian why does stark want you dead so much what did you do has he explained this
is it genuine
or a dog with a bone line of reasoning
i can't remember anything that made you wolfy
would appreciate feedback
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:38 AM   #3134
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Goofy why don't you think Stark and djstu are not wolves
what have they done to clear themselves in your eyes
they are pretty quite they could be just sitting back watching the village tearing itself apart
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:52 AM   #3135
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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goofy, obv this **** is frustrating because I've been trying to get 00brian killed for about 5 days now and you guys aren't going with me asjdalksjdalkwjdkawdkajwdkjawdkjad

ONE TIME?

also, agree with what you said two posts ago and the fact that there is prob a wolf btw mdom/djstu/you/jobeen

frankly since you didn't get NK'd I'm a bit concerned about you



me being a pondering ape atm

Why are you goning so hard at brian i dont understand

i want to know your reasoning behind this i am not going to follow anyone blindly anymore there is so few of us left we should be able to sift through the **** and find some real resons!!!!
Effort is needed here people there is only 7 of us left two are wolves lets get somethig going
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:54 AM   #3136
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

sorry about that it wasn't all aimed at stark got carried away but i stand by what i said lets get moving
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:04 AM   #3137
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Goofy why don't you think Stark and djstu are not wolves
what have they done to clear themselves in your eyes
they are pretty quite they could be just sitting back watching the village tearing itself apart
They're not 100% clear, but the unfortunate truth is that we have so few mislynches left (1) that we can't afford to go on a lark and vote for someone who flat-out has a smaller % chance of being a wolf compared to the other options available. Barring somebody finding some kind of smoking gun today that implicates one of the other remaining players, jumanji and oobrian are the two people who have the highest % chance of being wolves that remain. So if we don't vote for one of them, and we're wrong, then where does that leave us, when we still have 3-4 suspicious-ish candidates and zero room for error? We're ****ed in that situation.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:06 AM   #3138
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Also since jumanji voted for oobrian (forcing him into the flip vs JD) a couple days ago, and I think oobrian has been in favor of a jumanji wagon the last couple days, the likelihood that they're both the two remaining wolves I think is somewhat slim. So, assuming that one of them is a wolf and one of them is not, we have to figure out which one IS a wolf asap so that we can try to figure out their partner.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:08 AM   #3139
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

...which reminds me, mdom came in at the last minute to vote for JD to force that flip with brian. oobrian/mdom two last wolves?

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sorry for not contributing today guys,

blah i hate myself for not coming back earlier so i can read more (actually this might be a good thing), but from what i've read so far JD looks like the best vote.

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awesome awesome vote here, after yesterday, everyone please remember this vote. I may let myself go to flip to get him lynched tomorrow.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:32 AM   #3140
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

if we lynch one of the guys you are talking about and they turn up villa where to from there?
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:34 AM   #3141
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

We lynch the other one, most likely.

Going to bed, see you guys in awhile.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:56 AM   #3142
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

MDom If not killing goofy was a level who is capable of making this play?

this is where past game experience comes in handy guys.


Jumanji im less and less convinced your a wolf these days i had you down as wolf pals with karak you seemed to go together like peas and carrots what do you make of the night kill


brian i have no idea why your suposed to be a wolf. so therefore i have you villa for now why do you think stark has such a hard on for your lynch?

djstu do you really have exams during the weekends? if so that sucks




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goofy, obv this **** is frustrating because I've been trying to get 00brian killed for about 5 days now and you guys aren't going with me asjdalksjdalkwjdkawdkajwdkjawdkjad

ONE TIME?

also, agree with what you said two posts ago and the fact that there is prob a wolf btw mdom/djstu/you/jobeen

frankly since you didn't get NK'd I'm a bit concerned about you



me being a pondering ape atm

the only person you don't call a wolf is jumanji am i wrong and djstu isn't your wolf buddy and jumanji is
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:01 AM   #3143
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

@goofy
i was voting for jumanji yesterday
the only reason i voted for karak is coz you made a dying wish you didn't die now its time to grant me mine at least turn off your tunnel vision for half an hour and look into djstu and stark if you can give me sound reason for not voteing stark/djstu other than we can't take the risk ill think about changing my mind.

why should you trust me?




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Old 05-11-2009, 07:03 AM   #3144
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

right im going to bed i seem to be the only one here at the moment but ill be back and i expect some debate
this is my first game i want braging rights so FIND THE WOLVES!
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:43 AM   #3145
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

ok wow jobeen I was like 90% positive you were villa, now I think you are a wolf who has decided to amp up posting in the end game because you have little choice, quotes and analysis coming next

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Old 05-11-2009, 09:58 AM   #3146
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Im Wanna vote Jumanji but if thats not taking off im happy to
vote karak

he was my other wolf choice anyway just hadn't spent the time reading him yet.
as pointed out, this is a ridic noob wolf line

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Anyone who votes from now is is considered a late vote?
how do we lynch?
do you want a flip?
fluff

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last time i didn't vote with the wagons it was a flip villa died
wanted to vote for who i thought was a wolf
fluff/wolf

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i will be voting jumanji tomorow with out wavering he is a wolf
what happened to this? this is the most important of these quotes IMO, you have just completely abandoned this because it wasn't working and you have to try and get someone who is somewhat clean lynched and you decided I was a better target for whatever ******ed reason

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yep could be

BTW
who do you think the wolves are and why?
fluff, and you kept asking others instead of giving a list of what you thought

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Ok so we are looking for wolf pairs now so by this reasoning we should have enough information to find the wolves lets go over this

below is a list of who i think the pairs have been in the last couple of days.

MDOM-----JD
JUMANJI---KARAK
JOBEEN----CARDASSIAN
GOOFY-----OOBRIAN
DJSTU------STARK

DEAD VILLAGERS lol

If my pairing is correct Mdom, jumanji and myself can not be wolves
this leaves us with four potential wolves


Goofy is 100% villager here therefore this clears brian

Which leaves us with two wolves
DJSTU & STARK
gg

i know goofy said they were by far his biggest villa leans but they have been so UTR its not funny
(where i come from we have exams during the week and not on the weekends could be different where you guys are, i don't know you tell me!)

The fact that goofy was not night killed could only mean one of two things
1)he is a wolf! (i don't belive it)
2)His reads are so totally wrong that he is absolutly no threat to the wolves at all
(no offence man)

re 2) card was killed because he was seen a a much larger threat to the village as he was following along the lines of looking for partnership wolves and with last nights NK would have had enough info to expose the wolves

EG: clearing MDOM because of the jd lynch
lastnights lynch would have given him one more cleared villa one step closer to the wolves

with all this said

VOTE STARK
<insert clip of the principal in Billy Madison saying this makes no sense whatsoever>

I feel like you just randomly put people in pairs to fit this theory instead of making a theory to fit what is going on.

***********also everyone should take note that this is a deviation of what I said the other day about one wolf being noob/UTR and one not, which IMO is characteristic of a wolf trying to spin that to their advantage instead of coming up with their own idea

re: goofy not dying

It is entirely possible that card was just viewed as being more experienced and more of a threat in the end game than goofy. Not killing goofy because his reads are way off is a super obvious and blatant play and something that would give too much away. Also, notice the doubt we are having about goofy now? Not lynching goofy makes us doubt him, regardless and that is a good thing for the wolves as it creates confusion...notice 00brian trying to wagon him (WHICH IS VERY WOLFISH TOO).

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Ok see what your saying but if your reads are correct you should of been dead days ago. you thought so i thought so everyone thought so so the only explainations are
1 YOUR READS ARE WRONG
2 ITS A HUGE LEVEL ON THE WOLVES PART

i don't think the wolves take the the risk with this kind of play

i see where your coming from but our recent line of thinking has got us no where village has only lynched one wolf and that just about went wrong beacause we were scared of walking off the beaten path and taking a risk and going against the don't kill a seer claim or there lynches

take a chance dude and at least look into it okay

if we don't get a wolf today it's must lynch tomorow and village is ****ed
see above

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MDom If not killing goofy was a level who is capable of making this play?

this is where past game experience comes in handy guys.


Jumanji im less and less convinced your a wolf these days i had you down as wolf pals with karak you seemed to go together like peas and carrots what do you make of the night kill


brian i have no idea why your suposed to be a wolf. so therefore i have you villa for now why do you think stark has such a hard on for your lynch?

djstu do you really have exams during the weekends? if so that sucks

AND stark

the only person you don't call a wolf is jumanji am i wrong and djstu isn't your wolf buddy and jumanji is
jumanji has been so UTR to me that I don't know what to think, but since karak/JD weren't wolves the likelihood of him being a wolf has gone up exponentially.

I'd also like to point out that you keep saying that you have no idea how anyone is supposed to be a wolf, then you randomly declare I am a wolf without any support whatsoever except for the fact that goofy has cleared us and thus we must be wolves. This seems to me like you are simply trying to create confusion and **** us up at the endgame, so combined with the extremely wolfy posts from you in the past two days, I am going to

unvote

jobeen

If you are villa, congrats on basically causing us to lose by causing me to have to defend myself today when we should be analyzing mdom/jumanji/brian/djstu and figuring out which two are wolves and how they fit together.

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Old 05-11-2009, 10:15 AM   #3147
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i know goofy said they were by far his biggest villa leans but they have been so UTR its not funny
(where i come from we have exams during the week and not on the weekends could be different where you guys are, i don't know you tell me!)
forgot about this

first lol at me being UTR, lololololol

can't speak for djstu, but my exams start Friday and end Monday



anyway, I'm starting to think you are just a ridiculous villa...I might have been a bit overzealous in my vote, what does everyone else think?

unvote for now

regardless I can't help feeling like this...

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Old 05-11-2009, 02:38 PM   #3148
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I think even if jobeen is a wolf then she's a bad vote today because finding her partner is more important.

Also, boo @ there being like 5 posts overnight.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:47 PM   #3150
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Sorry I wasn't here yesterday, by the time I remembered about this game I was at Mother's Day dinner (kind of more important). Honestly, I've been very curious about the flipping system and think they are just lynching the villas in a w/v situation to make the game closer. I could just be throwing out poo but I've seen 3-4 situations in my time where the team losing gets the benefit of the flip. I can't remember the other flip so far (there was a 3 way flip wasn't there?) but that didn't go in our favor either.

Goofy, you said you were seer cleared. Can I see the post? You drive this game and if you weren't seer cleared after I thought someone said that then my votes are Jobeen and you. You keep calling me and Brian w/v, but now I'm getting a strange strange feeling that you and Jobeen have resorted to getting off my wagon because you are focusing on Brian.

You mentioned don't kill Jobeen to find her partner if she's a wolf. Are you the partner? . If you aren't a seer cleared wolf, then as much as I like you, you need to go. There is no way we can win if you are a wolf because everyone trusts you so much. If you were seer cleared, then I apologize and will reread whatever is needed to make a different decision.
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