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Old 05-07-2009, 08:50 AM   #2601
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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********************MOD NOTE*******************

I NEVER TOLD J.D. ANYONES ROLE BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE NEEDED HIM FOR A SUB.

HAD I NOT NEEDED HIM TO SUB IN I WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM.

WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK EVER THAT I OR ANY OTHER MOD WOULD DO SOMETHING SO ******ED.
Yeah OTI sorry about that. I was pissed at J.D. at the time I wrote that.
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:44 AM   #2602
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I got a question for the Mod. What happens if the wolves and the SK send in night kills that kill each other?

For example: Say Jobeen and her wolf buddy send in a nightkill to kill Mdom, and Mdom sends in his to nightkill Jobeen. What happens then?
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:49 AM   #2603
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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I do stick by reads from Corsahk. So far everything I read from him has him pushing against confirmed villas and defending confirmed wolves. He didnt seem to balance this with level reads in a single post. The nightwood kill confirmed this again. So yes I still think Jobeen is still a good choice. I cant do links so go back to my post that Goofy linked if you want to see my previous reasoning.



Anyway, lets get this behind us and find some wolves. I am happy to do a Jobeen vote today for now. As I am going to bed I may as well put it out there now and think about it again in the morning.

Vote Jobeen
just a thought corsakh puts my name out there to
A)give himself villa points when im mislynched a villa
B)set up a noob player for a mislynch when he himself is lynched a wolf

by the way the whole i wont post pics thing strike one
******ed resoning IMO

and by the way the whole not posting over the weekend thing... went out to a rave did not sleep for two days so tired but so happy
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:26 AM   #2604
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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Thoughts before I go to sleep:

1) I don't think ainex was killed because of his O0Brian vote, that strikes me as too obvious a conclusion to make, and if our SK has proven anything by this point it's that he's smart. I'm assuming Brian was the wolf nk here, but I think that's a pretty safe assumption to make given the general suspicion that he was the SK.

2) I think stark may have just outed himself. The card being a wolf nk comment is just way too matter of fact, and since we all assumed card had been killed by the SK and not the wolves I don't see how stark could be so sure about card being the wolf kill unless he knew exactly who killed whom, which means he's either the SK or a wolf.

3) Stark shouldn't be a wagon. If he's the SK the wolves are probably gonna eat him to protect themselves, if he's a wolf the SK is probably gonna kill him to get rid of another wolf, and if he's a villa chances are one or both will try to kill him. So pretty much no matter what happens we learn his role and there's really no point in wasting time on him. Village caught a lucky break ldo
I don't understand how this makes me a wolf. As I pointed out before, why were we so sure Card was the SK kill? He would have just killed him again...you are reading way to into this, as I definitely thought that we established that the SK was wolf hunting, not hunting for people who suspected him and chaser was suspected.

well the SK is killing me tonight because of this and he might have binked a wolf if you hadn't done this, terrific

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i figured info could have been gotten if i died, since we had sooooo many villas, how can we lose, but i guess it doesnt work if you guys just wagon all villas, anyway, stark still wants me dead, so ill go him

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obv you are just braindead and not a threat

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wowow.

I didn't really feel strongly enough about this before to mention it but in the context of stark maybe being the SK...after playing w/ stark in the SSNL game, I feel like he was much more helpful as a villa there than he was here. He has a similar posting styles in both games for sure, so I'm inclined to think he's not a wolf, but it's like he's toned down his villa game a little to be a little less in the spotlight. Like, in the SSNL game his villa game was very aggressive and abrasive; he threw a lot of **** at people to see what stuck, to the point where he would pick up votes quite often and nobody knew what side he was on. He's been doing a lot less of that in this game, and it fits in with the profile of the SK who wants to avoid getting too much heat from both the village and the wolves.

I guess my feeling is just that since stark was "cleared" on the early days, he's been doing a lot less to help the village than I've seen him do as a vanillager.

I agree with dj though...if stark's the SK, then the wolves have to get him out of self-preservation (since stark likewise has to go after the wolves now that he's been "outed" in the interest of his own self-preservation).

I never really thought about this before but hell, everyone who we thought was a good SK candidate is dead now, so we do have to go outside the box. beer's post about mdom is the only other real "lead" we have.
I totally agree about the fact that the SK could be anyone. It could certainly be you as well. I mean how many wagons have you started that have been on wolves? Zero, I believe. No one has been really helpful this game because the SK has killed all the wolves. We got one seer-peeked wolf, that's it. To call me out for not being helpful seems ridiculous as I have been actively posting and trying to help sort **** out just as much as anyone else. Also, I don't really think I'm being any less helpful than the SSNL game, I think you just making that up. Do you remember how completely wrong I was and how I had to spend half the time defending myself against fake peeks and silly accusations? I think I am best at the end game and it will be a shame if I get pointlessly lynched before we get there. Regardless, I'd be shocked if I'm not dead tomorrow after djstu's comments above. Sigh.

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Can you explain this, since I'm not seeing it? To be fair though you prob have a different perspective on it than I do since you were on his team in that game and I, well, wasn't
He's being much more direct and open and posting more fluff (may just be he's more comfortable with playing the game, as much as anything, though).
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:40 AM   #2605
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

SK wouldn't kill card again because of the analysis of other players (me and others) pointing toward win.meaning read was proberly wrong and to maybe cast doubt on card being a villa
esspecialy after all the **** that went down after he was subbed in.

although i agree giving up when your a villa and being wagoned is super ******ed.( my poor work mates had to put up with me ranting for like three hours about the whole debacle once i checked the thread so please be defending yourself if your a villa and about to die people!

had to come home and drink a bottle of vodka to get over that


im pretty clueless when it comes to this game but i know you don't lie down and take ****
you fight fight FIGHT
this is fight club isn't
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:18 AM   #2606
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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Old 05-07-2009, 01:31 PM   #2607
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

well i defended myself with quotes and evidence and the whole nine yards a few pages ago but it seems that everyone has forgotten about that already. I am put in a unique position of having to defend someone else (Ilya) to save myself because I came in as a sub. To be honest, you guy are barking up the wrong tree and for terrible reasons. I can go back and quote but there were a whole bunch of posts I made so I will summarize here.

First of all, the ONLY case against Ilya was the following:

1) Inactive and infrequent poster
2) Sounded noobish and non-confrontational, unwilling to make a risky vote and stick to it.
3) Rumored seer peeked wolf

Well let me address the most important once first, #3. I can assure you guys that Ilya WAS NEVER PEEKED. The post that brought this idea up was by BingoBango, a confirmed seer. IN the post, Bingo talks about Ilya sounding bad because of his noobish tone. He states that a wolf will benefit from not providing any good content. Although this is a solid idea, the truth of the matter was in fact that Ilya WAS new at this game, it was his first one ever. Ilya didnt really know how to make a read and how to formulate an idea of who the wlves were. This is understandable for a first time player, but totally innocent. If you reread the Ilya post, and I can quote again if need be, it is v consistent with a new player and there is no trace of him molding a wagon on a village player or anything. He simply says he doesnt know who to vote for or why. This is NOT wolfy, it is just plain unhelpful to the village, a mistake many first timers make.

as for the other reasons people wanted to get rid of Ilya, that he is new/he sucks plus he did not post often. It is normal to want to vote players out that dont help much if there are no clear wolf reads, but I think so close to the end of the game we cant waste a lynch on a sucky villager, we need to keep wolfhunting. All i can do is promise to be more active and provide more content than Ilya did.

Go back and read my posts in the 2400 range, I quote all posts in question. I will do so again in a minute also
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:32 PM   #2608
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

to drunk to make ay type of proper contribution so going to bed hopefully see you guys in the morning to see whats up and make a decision got work in the morning hope to be up in time to read over stuff and find a wolf before eodf.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:38 PM   #2609
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

by the way is there only like 6 of us left in tis game seems like that at the mo with the amont of posting going on come on guys lets get talking.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:38 PM   #2610
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

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Also, I don't really think I'm being any less helpful than the SSNL game, I think you just making that up. Do you remember how completely wrong I was and how I had to spend half the time defending myself against fake peeks and silly accusations?
To address this one point - that's what I see as the major difference between the SSNL game and this game. You haven't been as aggressive and are being targeted a lot less...I would say you've kinda switched from, like, 40/30 hyperlag to 35/20 kind-of-lag. That could also just be a result of perhaps realizing that the 40/30 might not be most optimal to help the village, though, so I can't really read into the reasons why you might be playing differently, I can only recognize that you are to a certain degree.

I kinda want to go in different directions today, the way EoD yesterday went down I wouldn't be shocked if our wagons were v/v/v. I'll stay with karak for now but I'd also like to throw out mdom as a possible wagon. Thoughts?
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:09 PM   #2611
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**********************MOD NOTE***************************

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I got a question for the Mod. What happens if the wolves and the SK send in night kills that kill each other?

For example: Say Jobeen and her wolf buddy send in a nightkill to kill Mdom, and Mdom sends in his to nightkill Jobeen. What happens then?
THEY BOTH DIE
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:39 PM   #2612
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

lol jobeen
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:47 PM   #2613
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lol jobeen
Any other reads Danny?

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Old 05-07-2009, 03:59 PM   #2614
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

And fellow nerds: How do you link back to previous posts?
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:07 PM   #2615
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Right-click the "#2164" in the upper right of a post, copy the link, make a link like this:

<url=https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=10493412&postcount=2614>text you want to be hyperlinked</url> non-hyperlinked text


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Old 05-07-2009, 04:10 PM   #2616
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Right-click the "#2164" in the upper right of a post, copy the link, make a link like this:

<url=https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=10493412&postcount=2614>text you want to be hyperlinked</url> non-hyperlinked text


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Old 05-07-2009, 04:14 PM   #2617
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

[0] BitchiBee
[0] Cardassian2.0/A.Ertburger voted for DannyKGB
[1] DannyKGB/Ilya voted for jobeen
[0] djstu
[0] goofyballer voted for Karak567
[0] I_Like_Beer
[2] jobeen
[0] JumanjiBoard
[1] Karak567
[0] mdom88
[1] O0Brian0O voted for starkwired
[0] J.D.(For saymond)
[0] Slink voted for jobeen
[1] starkwired voted for O0Brian0O


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Old 05-07-2009, 04:23 PM   #2618
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I won't mind if anyone starts a wagon on me. I did screw up yesterday and my read was wrong. I'd still like to go for 0oBrian and Jobeen though.
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:29 PM   #2619
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Someone remind me why they think 00brian00 is a wolf. I read through his small amount of posts yesterday, and I didn't see an obvious wolf.

Now, he sucks as a villager and isn't finding any wolves, so it's not a huge loss if we lynch him and he's villager.

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Old 05-07-2009, 04:34 PM   #2620
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Someone remind me why they think 00brian00 is a wolf. I read through his small amount of posts yesterday, and I didn't see an obvious wolf.
Yeah, I think the way the EOD went down and his recent comments make him less likely to be a wolf than I originally thought.

No way is jobeen a wolf guys, that seems like a silly vote.

unvote

karak, I guess is the most likely of the current people being discussed for the same reasons I outlined yesterday
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:40 PM   #2621
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No way is jobeen a wolf guys, that seems like a silly vote.
Explain plz
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:46 PM   #2622
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SK wouldn't kill card again because of the analysis of other players (me and others) pointing toward win.meaning read was proberly wrong and to maybe cast doubt on card being a villa
esspecialy after all the **** that went down after he was subbed in.

although i agree giving up when your a villa and being wagoned is super ******ed.( my poor work mates had to put up with me ranting for like three hours about the whole debacle once i checked the thread so please be defending yourself if your a villa and about to die people!

had to come home and drink a bottle of vodka to get over that


im pretty clueless when it comes to this game but i know you don't lie down and take ****
you fight fight FIGHT
this is fight club isn't
if this post doesn't clear her...
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:52 PM   #2623
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I don't understand a word of what she said there.

Well, if she's a villager, <sarcasm> she sure is doing a good job finding us some wolves </sarcasm>

Unvote for now
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:00 PM   #2624
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[0] BitchiBee
[0] Cardassian2.0/A.Ertburger voted for DannyKGB
[1] DannyKGB/Ilya voted for jobeen
[0] djstu
[0] goofyballer voted for Karak567
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[0] mdom88
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:49 PM   #2625
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

ILB is the cereal killer.

I have been going over his early posts, and he reaaaaally is seeming like the cereal killer with the way he posts/his tone and based on reads I have of him from previous games. I can go into this in more detail later, for now though look at what happened the past day:

Brian has had ILB on his SK list for a while but hasn't been vocal about it at all. yesterday he said ILB was high on his list but wasn't being loud about it yet. Looks like hte perfect opportunity for ILB to kill brian.

i know that initially i thought that brian was definitely the wolve's NK last night, but after rereading i'm sorta changing my mind. my viewpoint would be helped a lot if we can find something that makes ainex look like the SK to the wolves perhaps, or any other good reasons we can find for the wolves to NK ainex (so we know brian was cereal killer NK):

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FWIW though jobeen, I don't want to lynch you within the next few days.

J.D. really worries me. In the last game I played with him, he wasn't shy at all, and was usually the voice of village reason. I can understand his needing a few days to catch up after being subbed in, but I really expected more from him by now.

yesterday i said this line:
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And to answer your question: I don't eat cereal for breakfast. I usually have a beer instead
at this point in the game, wouldn't it be good for the cereal killer to frame me by killing ILB last night? that way he can set up the lynch of me today which means that
a) he wouldn't be lynched tomorrow
b) a probable villager gets mislynched which balances the game more which im pretty sure the cereal killer wants at this point



i know my second reason is a bit of a stretch, but i encourage everyone to reread ILB. i'll post more about this when i figure out how to convey my reads on him better

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